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bajaleo 
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B-bear604
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 Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 1:25 am Post subject: Re: GoWesty Manual-to-Power Window Conversion Kit |
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I used the a1 kit mentioned in this thread in my last van and was very happy with it.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=507241
It was a super easy install, and worked great.
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Gizmoman
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| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 7:26 am Post subject: Re: GoWesty Manual-to-Power Window Conversion Kit |
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I'm looking at the kit as well but noticed that the window seal kit is out of stock.
I'm going to wait till the seal kit is in stock before I tackle this.
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Syncronoid
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| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 8:31 am Post subject: Re: GoWesty Manual-to-Power Window Conversion Kit |
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http://www.gowesty.com/tech-article-details.php?id=129
I'm halfway through the window switch relocation project. The OEM switches and connectors are much too bulky for the space behind the panel and the bezel always came loose because the plastic snaps that hold it in the panel always break. GW even says the switches "...are a complete joke...", yet they continue to sell them in the kit to unsuspecting customers. I'm surprised GW hasn't incorporated the switch relocation kit into the manual-to-power kit, but then again, I'm not.
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DenverB
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| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 8:45 am Post subject: Re: GoWesty Manual-to-Power Window Conversion Kit |
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interesting, but I would probably opt to not put those 'factory' window buttons in the door. i've seen other people do power windows and put a small, unobtrusive switch on the front of the face of the automatic shifter... pretty slick.
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Altoona
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| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 10:08 am Post subject: Re: GoWesty Manual-to-Power Window Conversion Kit |
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| Syncronoid wrote: |
http://www.gowesty.com/tech-article-details.php?id=129
I'm halfway through the window switch relocation project. The OEM switches and connectors are much too bulky for the space behind the panel and the bezel always came loose because the plastic snaps that hold it in the panel always break. GW even says the switches "...are a complete joke...", yet they continue to sell them in the kit to unsuspecting customers. I'm surprised GW hasn't incorporated the switch relocation kit into the manual-to-power kit, but then again, I'm not. |
The switches in the kit are not the stock switches, they are just the generic ones that come with the kit. Probably to keep the overall cost of the kit down. Adding the relocation kit would be a good call if you can afford it. |
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Gizmoman
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| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 12:09 pm Post subject: Re: GoWesty Manual-to-Power Window Conversion Kit |
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It appears these switches can be located inside an included box which would make their bulkiness not as intrusive - much less expensive as well.
https://www.amazon.com/Absolute-HW600-Power-Window-Conversion/dp/B004IX6798
EDIT _ I shold mention that the Amazon reviews of this product are not spectacular. Still, putting the switches in a separate box seems like a good move - mounted perpendicular to the door panel.
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Steve M.
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| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 12:13 pm Post subject: Re: GoWesty Manual-to-Power Window Conversion Kit |
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| Syncronoid wrote: |
http://www.gowesty.com/tech-article-details.php?id=129
I'm halfway through the window switch relocation project. The OEM switches and connectors are much too bulky for the space behind the panel and the bezel always came loose because the plastic snaps that hold it in the panel always break. GW even says the switches "...are a complete joke...", yet they continue to sell them in the kit to unsuspecting customers. I'm surprised GW hasn't incorporated the switch relocation kit into the manual-to-power kit, but then again, I'm not. |
Understand what your saying about the plastic snaps breaking off. This happened to my install-the long ones on the bottom of the bezel.
I took a short piece of aluminum angle and glued it to the bottom of the bezel so that it would slip in like the original plastic ones and let the top ones work as they were supposed to holding it in place.
Works like a charm.
Zip-tyed the wire harnss to the door to keep it out of the window glass and so far so good.
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tristessa
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| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 5:20 pm Post subject: Re: GoWesty Manual-to-Power Window Conversion Kit |
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| Looks like a $50 eBay universal power window kit with a couple of special brackets... |
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Zeitgeist 13
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| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 5:23 pm Post subject: Re: GoWesty Manual-to-Power Window Conversion Kit |
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That's an apt description for most of GW's offerings...
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Syncronoid
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| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 6:58 pm Post subject: Re: GoWesty Manual-to-Power Window Conversion Kit |
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Problem solved.....
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ledogboy
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| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 11:42 pm Post subject: Re: GoWesty Manual-to-Power Window Conversion Kit |
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| Zeitgeist 13 wrote: |
| That's an apt description for most of GW's offerings... |
There are products that they put out that may cause some to roll their eyes, but were godsends to me in my early days of Westy rehabing. Not only did they provide detailed instructions, there were also really well produced videos to help me get a job done. If a company wants to mark up a common product because they have given me tools to use said product, I am happy to thank and support them. They also do things that are not at all common, like making a CA compliant EFI system and doing whackadoodle shit like making a VW 2.1 into a 2.7. Not my bag, but an impressive accomplishment- and hardly a marked up Ebay special...
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Zeitgeist 13
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| Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 12:02 am Post subject: Re: GoWesty Manual-to-Power Window Conversion Kit |
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Yeah. I spent nineteen dollars American with them last week on a couple of stupid little things I could've found elsewhere for vastly cheaper, but I'm lazy AF. I have one other nice thing to say about GW, but I'm not feeling it right now. Maybe later.
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B-bear604
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| Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 11:23 am Post subject: Re: GoWesty Manual-to-Power Window Conversion Kit |
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The second one has brackets...so you wouldn't need to make your own. Looks similar to the A1 I installed in my Yogi.
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| Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 12:22 pm Post subject: Re: GoWesty Manual-to-Power Window Conversion Kit |
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The Go Westy kit is a SPAL deluxe kit. I would only use a SPAL kit. Their motors are bomb proof and you can buy replacement parts easily.
The difference between a Deluxe and Non Deluxe is that you can have a manual over ride and the a more powereful motor.
Before I was able to easily find OE parts I installed a Non Deluxe set in my Doka. I ended up spacing the winder part back into the door and had the adapter and all behind the skin which was nice as I was able to just have a flat plug on the old window crank hole.
I had switches on the dash and did not like them there. I think VW did a great job of putting them in the best position. The wiring is tough but with a little patience it all just fits.
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RicoS
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| Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 7:40 am Post subject: Re: GoWesty Manual-to-Power Window Conversion Kit |
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| bajaleo wrote: |
| Sure would be nice having power windows. |
Be careful what you wish for. I've had Vanagoons with manual windows, I've had them with power windows.
I've wasted hours troubleshooting (the tedious part) and repairing hinky Vanagoon power windows - I've never spent a minute fixing a manual window in one.
The last time I had a power window come up lame in a van, I mentioned to my son that if I still had the door cards for manual windows, swapping out the power window operators for manual ones would save me hours. He said why let plugging a couple abandoned holes in the door trim stop me. He was right.
It's not like you have to crawl to the back of a stretched limo in order to operate the only other window in a van, just reach across the cockpit and roll it down. The stretching will keep you limber and you can spend the hours you would have wasted installing and maintaining power windows on something with some payback.
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bobbyblack
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| Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 9:16 am Post subject: Re: GoWesty Manual-to-Power Window Conversion Kit |
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I use a cane, as I broke my hip in my 20's and it was not a perfect repair. The cane is easy to make the Pass window go up or down, at least a little...
If I were to get "interested" I'd make a grabber to use on the passenger manual window handle. It'd be all too easy..
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RicoS
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| Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 9:28 am Post subject: Re: GoWesty Manual-to-Power Window Conversion Kit |
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| bobbyblack wrote: |
| . . . I broke my hip in my 20's and it was not a perfect repair. . . . |
I know exactly what you are talking about.
Once, while looking at post-op x-rays, an orthopedic surgeon said to me, "Well, nothing's perfect." I felt like back-handing the SOB into another dimension.
The solution to the healthcare dilemma - avoid it.
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Ride-Fly
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:11 pm Post subject: Re: GoWesty Manual-to-Power Window Conversion Kit |
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I recently bought this kit and just opened it up today to install later this week. But after stumbling on this thread, makes me wonder if I should have returned it. Doh!  Oh well, I知 going for it! Maybe down the road, I値l add the switch relocation kit from GW, or try an aftermarket kit like an A1.
I also need to troubleshoot and fix the power mirrors, which have never worked since the day I致e owned my van.
I致e read through the a thread for power mirrors but I知 not able to picture how to check the motor behind the mirror, as they described. https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=674812&highlight=power+mirror
I値l let ya値l know how both tasks go! |
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