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gt1953 Samba Member
Joined: May 08, 2002 Posts: 13837 Location: White Mountains Arizona
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 7:51 am Post subject: Why was it parked? 1972 Type 3 Variant squareback |
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Been bugging (no pun) this guy for over a year to show me his 1972 Type 3 Variant squareback, hopefully described it correctly. Well yesterday I finally got to see the car. It has been parked for 8 yrs based on the tag on the plate. Yes it will need work what doesn’t it. Oh of course it ran when parked. Then why park it? I need to ask some pointed questions to the fellow as to why? Do not want to shame him either. Will not make an offer at this time as the car was locked, could not get inside. Still need to get under the car for pan inspection. So what would you ask, what would you offer. However I want them to tell me what they want.
_________________ Volkswagen: We tune what we drive.
Numbers Matching VW's are getting harder to find. Source out the most Stock vehicle and keep that way. You will be glad you did.
72 type 1
72 Squareback
({59 Euro bug, 62, 63, 67, 68, 69, 73 type ones 68 & 69 type two, 68 Ghia all sold}) |
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Zundfolge1432 Samba Member
Joined: June 13, 2004 Posts: 12451
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 8:01 am Post subject: Re: Why was it parked? |
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gt1953 wrote: |
Been bugging (no pun) this guy for over a year to show me his 1972 Type 3 Variant squareback, hopefully described it correctly. Well yesterday I finally got to see the car. It has been parked for 8 yrs based on the tag on the plate. Yes it will need work what doesn’t it. Oh of course it ran when parked. Then why park it? I need to ask some pointed questions to the fellow as to why? Do not want to shame him either. Will not make an offer at this time as the car was locked, could not get inside. Still need to get under the car for pan inspection. So what would you ask, what would you offer. However I want them to tell me what they want.
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Type 3 has some serious unique areas to inspect for pre purchase. I’d go over to type 3 forum for a primer from the old hands. Most parts are available through aftermarket but some key pieces are not and you need to know this. I like type 3 more room and more comfortable. If you get this car pm me I’ll hook you up with a type 3 guru. |
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Q-Dog Samba Member
Joined: April 05, 2010 Posts: 8686 Location: Sunset, Louisiana
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 8:23 am Post subject: Re: Why was it parked? |
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I find the direct question to be most effective. "What is wrong with it? Why was it parked?" And of course the most important, "Is it for sale?" There must be some attachment to the car, otherwise, why keep it? _________________ Brian
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raygreenwood Samba Member
Joined: November 24, 2008 Posts: 21462 Location: Oklahoma City
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 9:39 am Post subject: Re: Why was it parked? 1972 Type 3 Variant squareback |
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Most probably....for brake or transmission issues.....note the cinder block chock under the rear wheel.
Even if it ran fine.....why would you be afraid of it rolling away if all of the other systems are working?
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gt1953 Samba Member
Joined: May 08, 2002 Posts: 13837 Location: White Mountains Arizona
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 10:20 am Post subject: Re: Why was it parked? 1972 Type 3 Variant squareback |
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([If you get this car pm me I’ll hook you up with a type 3 guru.]) Zundfolge1432 I will.
(["Is it for sale?" ]) Yes it is Qdog
I did tell him upon my return with a battery, floor jack so I can see what else I can ding him for on the price. It was converted to a center mount weber. yes did see the cinder block.
Keep up the input as I am not familiar with the type 3. _________________ Volkswagen: We tune what we drive.
Numbers Matching VW's are getting harder to find. Source out the most Stock vehicle and keep that way. You will be glad you did.
72 type 1
72 Squareback
({59 Euro bug, 62, 63, 67, 68, 69, 73 type ones 68 & 69 type two, 68 Ghia all sold}) |
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Bobnotch Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2003 Posts: 22328 Location: Kimball, Mi
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 10:41 am Post subject: Re: Why was it parked? 1972 Type 3 Variant squareback |
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gt1953 wrote: |
It was converted to a center mount weber. |
Probably why it was parked. _________________ Bob 65 Notch S with Sunroof
71 Notch ...aka Krunchy; build pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120
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Mike Fisher Samba Member
Joined: January 30, 2006 Posts: 17961 Location: Eugene, OR
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 11:48 am Post subject: Re: Why was it parked? 1972 Type 3 Variant squareback |
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$2000-3,000. _________________ https://imgur.com/user/FisherSquareback/posts
69 FI/AT square Daily Driver
66 sunroof,67,70,71,71,71AT,72,72AT,73 Parts
two 57 oval ragtops sold
'68 Karmann Ghia sold
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BSQUARE Samba Member
Joined: November 05, 2004 Posts: 1876 Location: Feeling, Minnesota
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 12:09 pm Post subject: Re: Why was it parked? 1972 Type 3 Variant squareback |
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Mike Fisher wrote: |
$2000-3,000. |
I wouldn't pay anywhere near that for a car that's been parked outside for so many years, non-running, with unknown issues. If it doesn't run, assume the engine and trans are shot, the brakes need a full rebuild - basically, anything that can't be verified as working should be assumed to be bad...
In its favor - it does appear fairly complete and not rusty, although they do tend to rust in places you can't see in the pictures.
I'd offer $1200 max, if it's solid in the wheel arches and rockers, the interior shows no signs of mice, and isn't otherwise trashed/stripped. _________________ 1988 Ford Festiva L
1965 Honda 50 "Super Cub"
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Mike Fisher Samba Member
Joined: January 30, 2006 Posts: 17961 Location: Eugene, OR
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 12:35 pm Post subject: Re: Why was it parked? 1972 Type 3 Variant squareback |
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I'm just guessing what the seller wants for the car. He might not be interested in your $1200 assessment. He hasn't even advertised it yet so you'd prolly be towing home an empty trailer. They're still dancing around a price in AZ! _________________ https://imgur.com/user/FisherSquareback/posts
69 FI/AT square Daily Driver
66 sunroof,67,70,71,71,71AT,72,72AT,73 Parts
two 57 oval ragtops sold
'68 Karmann Ghia sold
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OvalinAz Samba Mini Tech
Joined: June 09, 2009 Posts: 1069 Location: AZ
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gt1953 Samba Member
Joined: May 08, 2002 Posts: 13837 Location: White Mountains Arizona
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 6:43 am Post subject: Re: Why was it parked? 1972 Type 3 Variant squareback |
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I am liking the 500 1000 and even the 1200. Generally want to here what the seller would want. Then go from there on the beat up of what it needs. Tires first, all rubber lines, etc. so the 500~1000 is not out of line. As mentioned still learning about the type 3 Variant. _________________ Volkswagen: We tune what we drive.
Numbers Matching VW's are getting harder to find. Source out the most Stock vehicle and keep that way. You will be glad you did.
72 type 1
72 Squareback
({59 Euro bug, 62, 63, 67, 68, 69, 73 type ones 68 & 69 type two, 68 Ghia all sold}) |
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ibjack Samba Member
Joined: February 06, 2002 Posts: 2105 Location: Imperial Beach CA
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 7:59 am Post subject: Re: Why was it parked? 1972 Type 3 Variant squareback |
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So let me get this straight, you've been bugging this guy to see his squareback knowing that it has sat there for many years. You know little about squarebacks but you want the person who you bugged to give you a price so that you can beat them down on it by telling them what it needs or what is wrong???? Look in the classified, there are no complete cars for sale at the $500-$1000 range. Best of luck though. _________________ '68 Lotus White T34 automatic sunroof
'64 Manila Yellow T34
'65 Sea Blue Square Panel
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Shop Lacky at the T3/34 Factory, https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100094313902074 |
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Bobnotch Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2003 Posts: 22328 Location: Kimball, Mi
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 1:19 pm Post subject: Re: Why was it parked? 1972 Type 3 Variant squareback |
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Looks like it'll be fun trying to get that car out of there. _________________ Bob 65 Notch S with Sunroof
71 Notch ...aka Krunchy; build pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120
Tram wrote: |
"Friends are God's way of apologizing for relatives." |
Tram wrote: |
People keep confusing "restored" and "restroyed". |
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gt1953 Samba Member
Joined: May 08, 2002 Posts: 13837 Location: White Mountains Arizona
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 3:03 pm Post subject: Re: Why was it parked? 1972 Type 3 Variant squareback |
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Oh man getting it out of there. That alone is I make the purchase will take about 4 hrs as tires holding air go on. Then ramps have to be built to get it up onto and across the gazebo. Your not moving the gazebo, why it was built is beyond me. Maybe they figured the car to be yard art. _________________ Volkswagen: We tune what we drive.
Numbers Matching VW's are getting harder to find. Source out the most Stock vehicle and keep that way. You will be glad you did.
72 type 1
72 Squareback
({59 Euro bug, 62, 63, 67, 68, 69, 73 type ones 68 & 69 type two, 68 Ghia all sold}) |
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Mike Fisher Samba Member
Joined: January 30, 2006 Posts: 17961 Location: Eugene, OR
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 3:07 pm Post subject: Re: Why was it parked? 1972 Type 3 Variant squareback |
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Drag each end sideways if you can to get it around the gazebo. _________________ https://imgur.com/user/FisherSquareback/posts
69 FI/AT square Daily Driver
66 sunroof,67,70,71,71,71AT,72,72AT,73 Parts
two 57 oval ragtops sold
'68 Karmann Ghia sold
Society is like stew. If you don't keep it stirred up you end up with a lot of scum on the top! - Russ_Wolfe/Edward Abbey |
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KTPhil Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2006 Posts: 33820 Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 3:22 pm Post subject: Re: Why was it parked? 1972 Type 3 Variant squareback |
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Could be worse, had it been parked longer...
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andybla Samba Member
Joined: March 03, 2014 Posts: 630 Location: BE
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 4:11 am Post subject: Re: Why was it parked? 1972 Type 3 Variant squareback |
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Good anti theft lock |
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Bobnotch Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2003 Posts: 22328 Location: Kimball, Mi
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 10:59 am Post subject: Re: Why was it parked? 1972 Type 3 Variant squareback |
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KTPhil wrote: |
Could be worse, had it been parked longer...
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Yeah, you gotta watch them small trees, as they like to come up anywhere. _________________ Bob 65 Notch S with Sunroof
71 Notch ...aka Krunchy; build pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120
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"Friends are God's way of apologizing for relatives." |
Tram wrote: |
People keep confusing "restored" and "restroyed". |
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gt1953 Samba Member
Joined: May 08, 2002 Posts: 13837 Location: White Mountains Arizona
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 7:19 am Post subject: Re: Why was it parked? 1972 Type 3 Variant squareback |
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Well the engine runs after ten years of being parked. Pulled the totally carboned plugs. Nasty for sure. Used the mystery oil for a few days in the cylinders, changed nasty engine oil, the points had no rubbing block Hmm. Was fuel injected at one time, the harness is wacked. Cleaned the plugs swapped points add gas and hose to a small gas can. Cranked with a squirt of starting juice and it runs, smoked needs a new muffler as the Pope blessed this one as it is really holy. Going to get rid of the weber center mount how dumb.
So a muffler will be on the list to purchase.
_________________ Volkswagen: We tune what we drive.
Numbers Matching VW's are getting harder to find. Source out the most Stock vehicle and keep that way. You will be glad you did.
72 type 1
72 Squareback
({59 Euro bug, 62, 63, 67, 68, 69, 73 type ones 68 & 69 type two, 68 Ghia all sold}) |
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Clatter Samba Member
Joined: September 24, 2003 Posts: 7526 Location: Santa Cruz
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 7:31 am Post subject: Re: Why was it parked? 1972 Type 3 Variant squareback |
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FWIW,
I have gotten a half-dozen cars like that for free.
If you show genuine interest, and the owner sees you really are going to do something with it,
Many will let it go to a good home, knowing it will get some love.
Especially with a difficult extraction at hand..
Looks like a pretty rust-free AZ example from here. _________________ Bus Motor Build
What’s That Noise?!? |
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