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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 6:07 am    Post subject: Re: Building a bus for travel in Europe Reply with quote

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wow. the cabinets look great. what are you doing with the panels you removed?


They were the a/c panels. I am eventually going to list the entire a/c system for sale as a set.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 7:18 am    Post subject: Re: Building a bus for travel in Europe Reply with quote

Love watching this build! Nice work
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:10 am    Post subject: Re: Building a bus for travel in Europe Reply with quote

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My wife and I are camping this weekend at Cunningham Falls State Park near Thurmont, MD.

back when i worked for MD DNR, Cunningham Falls was one of the sites i supported. very nice people at that park, and they have some great stories since Camp David is just a stone's throw away.

how was the Vanagon on the hill up to the camp office?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:28 am    Post subject: Re: Building a bus for travel in Europe Reply with quote

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dabaron wrote:
wow. the cabinets look great. what are you doing with the panels you removed?


They were the a/c panels. I am eventually going to list the entire a/c system for sale as a set.


Wow, the AC system doesn’t seem as daunting when you display it like that! I need to replace the AC compressor and dryer on my Westy.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Building a bus for travel in Europe Reply with quote

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how was the Vanagon on the hill up to the camp office?


What hill? Cool
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Building a bus for travel in Europe Reply with quote

dobryan wrote:
dabaron wrote:
wow. the cabinets look great. what are you doing with the panels you removed?


They were the a/c panels. I am eventually going to list the entire a/c system for sale as a set.
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Hi Dave:

First, allow me to compliment you on the excellent ideas, execution and craftmanship on your Euro-Westy project! And an even bigger compliment concerning the great photography! I can see that when it's time to leave your day job, you will have no shortage of hobbies. Very nice cabinetry, by the way.

Now a quick question concerning Vanagon A/C: Is it possible for you to measure (and list here) the various AC hoses? I never had factory AC when I fabricated my DIY front AC system, so for those considering making up new hoses for their old ones (something I might do for locals here in BC), I have no specs on the factory hoses.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 6:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Building a bus for travel in Europe Reply with quote

I was thinking the exact same thing when I saw that pic. Those dimensions would be helpful.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:39 am    Post subject: Re: Building a bus for travel in Europe Reply with quote

Yes. I can lay out and measure the hoses.

See Casey, something good did come from removing the A/C. Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 6:05 am    Post subject: Re: Building a bus for travel in Europe Reply with quote

I don't think you will ever need air conditioning in AMS, except maybe to defog the windows.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 6:07 am    Post subject: Re: Building a bus for travel in Europe Reply with quote

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I don't think you will ever need air conditioning in AMS, except maybe to defog the windows.


And I could only use it while driving which is going to be a very minor amount of the time of my travels.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 6:30 am    Post subject: Re: Building a bus for travel in Europe Reply with quote

I'm gonna miss going to Europe as much as I have from my airline job (like 6x a year). I try to fly into Amsterdam as they have the best deals on rental cars (1/2 price vs anywhere else). I drive from there to Germany to visit my son in college.

I saw this beauty somewhere near Luxembourg on my last trip. It's too bad they never sold these in the US.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 6:33 am    Post subject: Re: Building a bus for travel in Europe Reply with quote

How much for that pan of liquid Kryptonite?

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 7:21 am    Post subject: Re: Building a bus for travel in Europe Reply with quote

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how was the Vanagon on the hill up to the camp office?


What hill? Cool


i see, you stayed at the Manor Area which has no hill Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 7:23 am    Post subject: Re: Building a bus for travel in Europe Reply with quote

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How much for that pan of liquid Kryptonite?

Wink


i thought it was a giant Jello Shooter.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 7:24 am    Post subject: Re: Building a bus for travel in Europe Reply with quote

My first two cars were Scirocco's. Love to grab one on those German ones.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 7:26 am    Post subject: Re: Building a bus for travel in Europe Reply with quote

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how was the Vanagon on the hill up to the camp office?


What hill? Cool


i see, you stayed at the Manor Area which has no hill Wink


Actually we changed sites and went to the top loop. Nice steep hill up to there and the engine did fine. Second gear and power to spare. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Building a bus for travel in Europe Reply with quote

Been playing around with roof ideas myself. May put a fixed sunroof in behind the C pillar and raise the roof over the AC so it doesn't impinge so much inside and obscure the rear window. It occurred to me that in your case you could have removed the roof tin behind the C pillar and gained some more space in the head banger cabinet. Is this something you considered, but decided not to. Why not remove all the tin aft of the B pillar when installing a high top?

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Building a bus for travel in Europe Reply with quote

Typically the roof is removed to gain more room in the hightop sleeping area. I like the compromise of the room for the headbanger.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Building a bus for travel in Europe Reply with quote

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Why not remove all the tin aft of the B pillar when installing a high top?

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The roof ribs that transverse the van over the B and C columns are structural and integral to the rigidity of the van. The opening that is made for the vast majority of NAHT installs removes only the metal between the roof ribs that extend across from the B and C columns. If the roof rib that extends across the top above the C column is removed it must be replaced by a fabricated brace that extends from side to side. Some folks have done this but it is a very expensive proposition - and given that the space is finite, what you gain "upstairs" comes at the expense of what you lose "downstairs"- and given that one's space to stand up is limited to the space between the rear seat and the front seats - which corresponds to the removed area between the B and C column roof ribs - all but a very few have chosen to limit the removal of the roof of the van to that area.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 7:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Building a bus for travel in Europe Reply with quote

I didn't make myself clear. I meant just the roof tin. I realize the C pillar rib is extremely important. I saw a jeep in Connecticut this past weekend with an electric power rag sunroof like the old split window busses had. About a seven foot long opening. Peeked inside and it was essentially what triggered my thoughts. The rib was there, but no roof tin behind it. Couldn't we do that to our T3's?
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In the case of a high top, with the back section you would be looking at the underside of the bed, but it would give more interior cube.

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