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malcolm2
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 Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:24 am Post subject: Is there a name for the rear shelf engine access hole |
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Didn't they start showing up in '72? Anyway, I might be buying a 71 and IIRC it does not have the removable access door on the rear "package shelf".
Does it have a name?
I would prefer to have one for better access to most of the engine. Is there an aftermarket option? Or do I need to find someone with a saw-zall and a bus they are hacking up.
I think the type 3s have them too. Cut me one out and I will weld it in.  |
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aerosurfer
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| Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:55 am Post subject: Re: Is there a name for the rear shelf engine access hole |
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They started in 73. Enginge access door or hatch would both be appropriate names. The Vanagon is a larger hole, so if you are gonna cut it out go big...
71 still has the removable rear apron though, and the upright motors didnt really have the need for overhead service
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danfromsyr
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| Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 12:22 pm Post subject: Re: Is there a name for the rear shelf engine access hole |
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the vanagon one requires alot of work, and the metal lids were only in the first air cooled years 80-83.. iirc.
Sloride here in the Bay forum has a decent images for his modified vanagon lid
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=565304
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malcolm2
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| Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 1:02 pm Post subject: Re: Is there a name for the rear shelf engine access hole |
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| aerosurfer wrote: |
They started in 73. Enginge access door or hatch would both be appropriate names. The Vanagon is a larger hole, so if you are gonna cut it out go big...
71 still has the removable rear apron though, and the upright motors didn't really have the need for overhead service |
The bus I am eyeing has no engine. I do have a spare type 4 1.8 I was considering. So I guess that question would need to go out there....
Any issues in installing a type 4 in a 71?
I am not positive, but I think this one does not have the removable apron. I think I remember the PO mentioning some of the differences and future changes.
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malcolm2
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| Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 1:03 pm Post subject: Re: Is there a name for the rear shelf engine access hole |
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| danfromsyr wrote: |
the vanagon one requires alot of work, and the metal lids were only in the first air cooled years 80-83.. iirc.
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busdaddy
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| Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 1:22 pm Post subject: Re: Is there a name for the rear shelf engine access hole |
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What month of 71 was it built?
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sodbuster
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| Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 1:56 pm Post subject: Re: Is there a name for the rear shelf engine access hole |
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| malcolm2 wrote: |
I am not positive, but I think this one does not have the removable apron. I think I remember the PO mentioning some of the differences and future changes. |
It sounds like he just does not know. All 1971 standard production VW buses have removable aprons. that or his bus is not a 71. Maybe a 72. No top hatch and no removable apron on 72 buses. New model year production for VW started in August of the pervious year. So all VW bus production between August and December of 1971 are in fact 1972 model buses.
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haggardrob
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| Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 1:57 pm Post subject: Re: Is there a name for the rear shelf engine access hole |
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I just put in a type 3 hatch in my '72 and it fits PERFECTLY between the cargo area supports that run front to back and between firewall and latch for rear hatch. Had to do a little bit of bondo artistry to make the corrigations in the cargo area but its going to be covered by a westy bed cushion 90% of the time...
It seriously fits soo good I dont know why they didnt do it from the factory...they already had the pressings from the type 3....
As it looks at the moment in primer, with previously mentioned "bondo artistry"
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Manfred58sc
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| Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 2:00 pm Post subject: Re: Is there a name for the rear shelf engine access hole |
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The 73-79 access hatches are a very good fit. I add them to all pre-73 Bus's since the Chinese alternators only last a few miles before dying...I'm not pulling engines when I don't have to. VW should have had them on all Bus's IMO.
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