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williamM Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:52 am Post subject: Re: Riviera roof install on tintop |
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as far as a sleeping platform goes - you can easily make a slide out piece on the tin roof to mak a full sized bed up top.
That front rack with spacers will need to be cleaned of debris every once in a while (underneath [img]- between the rack and the tin roof) or you can end up with a water carrier that will rust out your gutters-
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we had to replace the entire roof clip.
just a thought.[/img] _________________ some days I get up and just sit and think. Some days I just sit.
opinion untempered by fact is ignorance.
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Bram Samba Member
Joined: October 24, 2006 Posts: 62 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:11 am Post subject: Re: Riviera roof install on tintop |
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Thanks guys for the info and pictures!
Ives676, do you know the thickness and diameter of the hockey puck like things? 😉
Than i can get some made |
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Ives676 Samba Member
Joined: June 20, 2013 Posts: 274 Location: Rogers, AR
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Bram Samba Member
Joined: October 24, 2006 Posts: 62 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 3:28 pm Post subject: Re: Riviera roof install on tintop |
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No problem, i can wait, still lots to do before i can put the luggage rack on. |
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Bram Samba Member
Joined: October 24, 2006 Posts: 62 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 3:32 am Post subject: Re: Riviera roof install on tintop |
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After lots of filling and sanding i put on the first coat of primer
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KentABQ Samba Member
Joined: September 11, 2016 Posts: 2406 Location: Albuquerque NM
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 7:44 am Post subject: Re: Riviera roof install on tintop |
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That is the same luggage rack you showed earlier, with the cracks and all?!?
Great job on the refurb. What did you use as a filler? _________________ -Kent-
1976 Riviera, 1.8l FI chrome yellow VAN - "Chloe"
"I must say, how can you be in a bad mood driving this vehicle full of vibrant color.
Cars of today are so bland in comparison. It's like driving a celebration!" ---WildIdea
Bus ownership via emoticons:
---williamM |
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Bram Samba Member
Joined: October 24, 2006 Posts: 62 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 11:16 am Post subject: Re: Riviera roof install on tintop |
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Yes, it's the same, took me a lot of hours to get to this. Also redrilled the holes for the eye straps. Ik ordered new stainless steel ones, but the holes didn't line up with the old holes so had to drill new ones.
Also had some new bars made from aluminum, to replace the old rusty ones. |
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Bram Samba Member
Joined: October 24, 2006 Posts: 62 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2018 3:12 am Post subject: Re: Riviera roof install on tintop |
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Didn't do much to the roof last week, but some nice new parts arrived 😎
Also a picture of the bars for the luggage rack, made them of aluminum.
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Ives676 Samba Member
Joined: June 20, 2013 Posts: 274 Location: Rogers, AR
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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2018 8:35 am Post subject: Re: Riviera roof install on tintop |
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Sorry it took me so long to grab a few photos of these:
I would say the “puck” is 2” across, I was having trouble holding the tape measure and my phone for the photo so it looks just over 2” but my tape wasn’t at the edge.
Where you get the aluminum bars? If you made them would you be interested in making a few more? _________________ 1974 Riviera - Subaru EJ22
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Bram Samba Member
Joined: October 24, 2006 Posts: 62 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2018 9:27 am Post subject: Re: Riviera roof install on tintop |
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Thanks Ives676
Now i can make some.
The material, is it some sort of hard rubber? Or plastic? |
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Ives676 Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2018 10:49 am Post subject: Re: Riviera roof install on tintop |
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I think it is very dense rubber. It is very hard and not very pliable. You might be able 3D print a replacement or find a suitable hard plastic for outdoor use. I would think a hard, dense rubber or hard plastic would both work for a replacement. Good luck! _________________ 1974 Riviera - Subaru EJ22
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Bram Samba Member
Joined: October 24, 2006 Posts: 62 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2018 11:20 am Post subject: Re: Riviera roof install on tintop |
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I made the aluminum bars myself with some help from a friend at the local metal shop.
I started with normal aluminum tube, cut to the right length and then used a pneumatic press to close the ends.
I will drill the holes when i install them on the luggage rack.
I won't mind making some more, but shipping might be expensive. |
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Bram Samba Member
Joined: October 24, 2006 Posts: 62 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 1:35 am Post subject: Re: Riviera roof install on tintop |
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Still having trouble finding springs for the poptop.
As far as i know i've got the right dimensions to make new ones, but every company i asked tell me the springs won't be able to stretch far enough in the dimensions i've given them...
If i measure my frames correctly the springs should stretch up to about 80 cm (32 inch) when you close the poptop.
The spring companies told me that if i stretch the spring that far, the windings will be stretched so far they will not close completely anymore.
Anybody got an Idea? |
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Bram Samba Member
Joined: October 24, 2006 Posts: 62 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 10:21 am Post subject: Re: Riviera roof install on tintop |
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Working on the rear part at the moment.
Previous owner took out the old wood, replaced some of it, and put in a new layer of fiberglass.
Sadly he didn't do a great job so i need to repair some areas.
Also trying to straighten the roof cause it's sagging a bit in the middle.
So now for the questions 😋
When the top is closed, does the rear roof section overlap part of the luggage rack?
Could someone post a picture with some dimensions? |
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Ives676 Samba Member
Joined: June 20, 2013 Posts: 274 Location: Rogers, AR
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 10:55 am Post subject: Re: Riviera roof install on tintop |
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Bram wrote: |
After lots of filling and sanding i put on the first coat of primer
When the top is closed, does the rear roof section overlap part of the luggage rack?
Could someone post a picture with some dimensions? |
Yes, the rear section does overlap the luggage rack. The "lowest" section of the luggage rack on the left side of your photo matches the outside profile of the bus roof. The rear fiberglass top roof section has an opposite profiled edge (concave curve) that will match the luggage rack and bus roof (The convex curve where the camper tent is just showing on the below photo. The wooden board that spans from driver side to passenger side connecting the two sides of the fiberglass top.)
You will need some rubber weather stripping to go between the metal bus roof and fiber glass camper roof pieces. I bought mine from a seller on thesamba and ebay named werksberg. If he doesn't have a current item listing for a riviera you can contact him for a special order. It is basically the same weather stripping kit as the westfalia roof but a few of the rubber pieces need to be longer to match the outer perimeter of the riviera.
Here is one of his listings but you would need to special order for the riviera.https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=834984] _________________ 1974 Riviera - Subaru EJ22
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Ives676 Samba Member
Joined: June 20, 2013 Posts: 274 Location: Rogers, AR
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 11:01 am Post subject: Re: Riviera roof install on tintop |
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These are the side profiles of the weather stripping seals. The top seal will be attached to the rear section of the pop top where it will overlap the luggage rack when in the down position. I removed the old trim piece shown as a white plastic in the photo in my previous post and replaced it with the top pictured rubber seal.
The other two seals will go around the rear section and luggage rack. You will also need a seal between the metal roof and luggage rack.
_________________ 1974 Riviera - Subaru EJ22
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Bram Samba Member
Joined: October 24, 2006 Posts: 62 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 8:56 am Post subject: Re: Riviera roof install on tintop |
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Thanks!
That's gonna help me a lot.
Also didn't know about some of the rubbers.
I've got some with it, but the one on top in your picture is not with it, and that sure looks better than the one i've got right now. |
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Bram Samba Member
Joined: October 24, 2006 Posts: 62 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 8:22 am Post subject: Re: Riviera roof install on tintop |
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Next job, rebuilding the wooden frame in the poptop, and some repair work to the fiberglass.
A friend of a friend works at a local company where they make the resin and all other stuff needed, so got some advise and all the stuff i need.
Gonna be more than enough 😎
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Bram Samba Member
Joined: October 24, 2006 Posts: 62 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 10:54 am Post subject: Re: Riviera roof install on tintop |
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The wooden pieces are glued in, today put some fiberglass on it for extra strength.
Had to build a tent over it cause the temperature wasn't good last few days. So put an extra heater in the shed, did an excellent job.
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Bram Samba Member
Joined: October 24, 2006 Posts: 62 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 2:46 pm Post subject: Re: Riviera roof install on tintop |
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Been a while, done some more work on the poptop.
Put in the new headliner and gave it all a coat of paint.
Today we turned the roof so i can do some work on the outside and paint it.
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