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Tram Samba Socialist
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:03 pm Post subject: Re: '70 Riviera: The Continuing (Mis)Adventures |
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No, the lock screw is frozen where it is. We can't secure the adjusting screw which turns freely and easily.
Right. A drop of super glue where the adjusting screw and the collar it screws in/ out of meet should hold it. You might need to remove the body mounted regulator from the body and hold it with the screw and collar facing up to get it right.
A little acetone or nail polish remover will soften the glue if you need to adjust it again. Just a drop. _________________ Немає виправдання для війни! Я з Україною.
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Tram Samba Socialist
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:23 am Post subject: Re: '70 Riviera: The Continuing (Mis)Adventures |
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Tram wrote: |
As to a bike rack... what about a rear hatch mounted one? Fiammas work well and will hold 2 bikes- you can still access the engine without removing the whole thing as well:
http://www.busdepot.com/ka0026
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You know, it took me a few hours after pressing "submit" for the purchase of that bike rack to realize that a new muffler with the correct sized tailpipe would have cost half the price |
Are these muff/ tails suddenly available again somewhere? I mean the muff with the correct tail for 1600... Or are you Jonesin' for cruise control set to 50? Youse guys'll need 14 weeks, not 7.
But seriously... with the receiver mounted rack aren't you looking at taking the bikes all off to check the oil- or am I missing something?
Maybe notchboy needs that hitch for his early Bay mit early Westfalia trailer mit shit bucket. _________________ Немає виправдання для війни! Я з Україною.
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Xevin Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:34 am Post subject: Re: '70 Riviera: The Continuing (Mis)Adventures |
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If you like packing a bike. The Fiamma will serve you well. There are cheaper options. But this is a good quality tool that works and is convenient. Cheaper bike rack options available. Knipex tools are expensive but work like they should. Although many Harbor Freight tools can get you by. For fuck sake treat yourself to bike rack you don’t need to dick with.
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D/A/N Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:57 pm Post subject: Re: '70 Riviera: The Continuing (Mis)Adventures |
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Xevin wrote: |
If you like packing a bike. The Fiamma will serve you well. There are cheaper options. But this is a good quality tool that works and is convenient. Cheaper bike rack options available. Knipex tools are expensive but work like they should. Although many Harbor Freight tools can get you by. For fuck sake treat yourself to bike rack you don’t need to dick with.
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Done! Ordered yesterday, arrived today. Bus Depot is only a few hours away so shipping is quick. We haven't fully assembled the rack but it's so damn light! The hitch we had was close to 40 lbs. by itself. I'll be damned if this entire rack is 10 lbs.
Now.....we have one fully functional but not fully polished jalousie window and one that is almost there but it's like someone covered half the screws in JB Weld so it's taking some time to get apart.
We also just got a good used driver's rear vent window to replace our very leaky one that sits poorly in its frame. I know we have to pop out the larger glass to get the vent window out, but is it possible to preserve the deluxe trim in the large window rubber upon removal, or will I need to buy that along with a new seal? _________________ '69 Fuel Injected Squareback. "B" D-jet. 1600 with balanced rotating assembly and lightened flywheel. Full flow and external filter.
'70 Riviera. 1904cc w/ 40mm Dellortos, 019 distributor, Steve Tims “super stock” 37x32 heads, Web Cam 218, Vintage Speed SS143 Super Speed exhaust, 1 1/2” heater boxes |
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neena Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 5:16 pm Post subject: Re: '70 Riviera: The Continuing (Mis)Adventures |
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More preparation for our summer road trip happened today. After many many many hours of rebuilding jalousie windows over more than 3 months, we finally installed them. Rebuilding was a royal pain - so tedious! - but removal of our leaky sliders and installation of the new windows was a breeze!
The only thing to add is that even though most info says to use #4 screws at 1/2" length, those screws just danced around in our frame. This thread
http://www.type2.com/library/exterior/jalous.htm
suggests that you should use #6 screws only if your channels are "buggered". However, we tried using #4's even in unused parts of the channel on both windows and they didn't bite at all. #6 and even #8 work perfectly and we could see the window pull towards the body ever so slightly as we tightened down the screws.
We're feeling quite proud of how it looks! Next on the list is redoing the screens. Here are some pics of the process, though none of the window rebuild because that was unexciting and has been well documented by others!
We thought this wavy edge might give us trouble, but it was actually easy to get enough screws to grab the window (plus, I treated the metal with Ospho and added some butyl tape to bad gaps):
The finished product (still gotta replace that rear vent window!)
The repro of the inner seal makes for a clean look
_________________ '69 Fuel Injected Squareback. "B" D-jet. 1600 with balanced rotating assembly and lightened flywheel. Full flow and external filter.
'70 Riviera. 1600 SP with 30 PICT 3 carburetor, 205M distributor, stock muffler
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Tram Samba Socialist
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Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 7:12 pm Post subject: Re: '70 Riviera: The Continuing (Mis)Adventures |
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You're HIRED!!! _________________ Немає виправдання для війни! Я з Україною.
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neena Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2018 6:56 pm Post subject: Re: '70 Riviera: The Continuing (Mis)Adventures |
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Some more progress was made towards getting us on our 7-week road trip, which will commence in the next few days (as soon as we load the bus and feel ready!):
We rebuilt the screens for the jalousie windows:
Also installed the Fiamma bike rack, which we only have a picture of because a friend who lives nowhere near us happened to be driving on the same road and saw us coming home from a final 100-mile shakedown drive, which also terminated at a barbecue. It is a wee bit off center, but we'll fix that before we load bikes on it:
We've been playing around with a few things up front, and have settled on this setup, which includes:
-the cup holder that replaces the ash tray
-an insulated bottle that fits in it perfectly
-a bluetooth speaker which gives us better sound when driving with windows down since it's pointed at our faces; we use the wired speakers for times when we're stationary
-a new phone holder that sticks to the dash via a gel suction cup (relatively easy to remove and hide in the glove box when parked in the city to deter more break-ins)
-the oscillating fan that changed our lives while driving our type 3 in NYC traffic (also gets removed when parked, along with all speakers)
-and two happy '70s colors:
_________________ '69 Fuel Injected Squareback. "B" D-jet. 1600 with balanced rotating assembly and lightened flywheel. Full flow and external filter.
'70 Riviera. 1600 SP with 30 PICT 3 carburetor, 205M distributor, stock muffler
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neena Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 10:29 am Post subject: Re: '70 Riviera: The Continuing (Mis)Adventures |
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I know that all 10 of our thread's readers are on tenterhooks about when we're heading out on our trip but we made some discoveries that might delay us another day or two. Oh, and we're not packed either so there's that....
On our recent shake down drive, we found a slight oil pressure issue. We've been running 10W-30 oil and our oil pressure gauge has showed a healthy 10psi per 1k rpms but now that it's in the mid-90's every day, that ratio has changed. At 3k rpm cruise, the pressure was only a bit above 20....maybe 22 or 24. Thinking of dropping the 10-30 and moving to a 40 weight oil. That sound like a reasonable move to anyone?
Then, when scouting for alternative CHT mounting ring locations, we discovered an issue with how the heat exchanger flange meets the head. In other words, there's a gap (our biggest feeler gauge is .025" and that fit in with room to spare) between the exhaust gasket and the head.
Weird thing is it's not sooty around there at all like we'd expect with an exhaust leak so we're a little confused. Should we add "loosen all exhaust connections, reseat the heat exchanger, and tighten everything back up" to our to-do list before leaving?
Here you can see that the only place the flange, gasket, and head fit as they should is at the bottom just near the tin. It's a little easier to see that it's not just shadow if you turn your head or screen sideways when looking at the pic
_________________ '69 Fuel Injected Squareback. "B" D-jet. 1600 with balanced rotating assembly and lightened flywheel. Full flow and external filter.
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Wasted youth Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 10:35 am Post subject: Re: '70 Riviera: The Continuing (Mis)Adventures |
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The exhaust needs to be corrected. It might not trouble you now, but will eventually.
Your windows look great! Where did you get the grey weatherstripping? Mine came to me in black. |
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neena Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 10:52 am Post subject: Re: '70 Riviera: The Continuing (Mis)Adventures |
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Wasted youth wrote: |
The exhaust needs to be corrected. It might not trouble you now, but will eventually. |
Yeah....figured that was holding out hope that there was even only a slight chance we wouldn't have to spend a 95* day laying on hot asphalt correcting the exhaust alignment before leaving on a road trip. Oh well
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Your windows look great! Where did you get the grey weatherstripping? Mine came to me in black. |
Thanks! Those were a real labor of love but it was nice that for all those hours polishing and cleaning they at least went in easily. Except for the large interior trim seal, all of the window seals were bought from Wolfsburg West and they came in grey. Who sells black? _________________ '69 Fuel Injected Squareback. "B" D-jet. 1600 with balanced rotating assembly and lightened flywheel. Full flow and external filter.
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Tram Samba Socialist
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 11:02 am Post subject: Re: '70 Riviera: The Continuing (Mis)Adventures |
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neena wrote: |
I know that all 10 of our thread's readers are on tenterhooks about when we're heading out on our trip but we made some discoveries that might delay us another day or two. Oh, and we're not packed either so there's that....
On our recent shake down drive, we found a slight oil pressure issue. We've been running 10W-30 oil and our oil pressure gauge has showed a healthy 10psi per 1k rpms but now that it's in the mid-90's every day, that ratio has changed. At 3k rpm cruise, the pressure was only a bit above 20....maybe 22 or 24. Thinking of dropping the 10-30 and moving to a 40 weight oil. That sound like a reasonable move to anyone?
Then, when scouting for alternative CHT mounting ring locations, we discovered an issue with how the heat exchanger flange meets the head. In other words, there's a gap (our biggest feeler gauge is .025" and that fit in with room to spare) between the exhaust gasket and the head.
Weird thing is it's not sooty around there at all like we'd expect with an exhaust leak so we're a little confused. Should we add "loosen all exhaust connections, reseat the heat exchanger, and tighten everything back up" to our to-do list before leaving?
Here you can see that the only place the flange, gasket, and head fit as they should is at the bottom just near the tin. It's a little easier to see that it's not just shadow if you turn your head or screen sideways when looking at the pic
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Correction: It's only 9,5 people reading this thread since I only have half a brain.
I'm going to tell you if there's no soot on that flange, it's not leaking so leave it alone! This isn't an uncommon thing to see in my experience. The pipe is welded to the inside of the flange and THAT'S what needs to seal. Plus, if you look at an exhaust gasket you'll see it's ridged quite a bit around the hole on both sides. Somebody go- rilla tightened the exhaust nuts at one point... no idea who. The ridges are by design to seal even with bent flanges.
Stick a wrench on it and if the nuts aren't loose, STOP and forget it.
As to the oil... don't forget I'm a huge fan of Syntec/ Edge 5W-50 and this is why. If you want to boost pressure a bit remove your pressure relief valve and add a 3mm thick washer shim under the spring.
I do like the windows! _________________ Немає виправдання для війни! Я з Україною.
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busdaddy Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 12:54 pm Post subject: Re: '70 Riviera: The Continuing (Mis)Adventures |
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I agree with Tram, no soot or noise, leave it alone aside from an attempt at snugging up the nuts.
I think I see a step in the head surface peeking out in the gap, some ports have a raised area where the gasket seals against, you may be seeing the part of the casting that doesn't do any of the sealing work. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 1:51 pm Post subject: Re: '70 Riviera: The Continuing (Mis)Adventures |
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busdaddy wrote: |
I agree with Tram, no soot or noise, leave it alone aside from an attempt at snugging up the nuts.
I think I see a step in the head surface peeking out in the gap, some ports have a raised area where the gasket seals against, you may be seeing the part of the casting that doesn't do any of the sealing work. |
Ok, good point on the sealing area. There's no soot and I imagine it'd make a lot of noise of all that space was actually open.
NYC is so miserably hot and humid right now and we're already 2 days behind when we were supposed to leave........ _________________ '69 Fuel Injected Squareback. "B" D-jet. 1600 with balanced rotating assembly and lightened flywheel. Full flow and external filter.
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Tram Samba Socialist
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 1:57 pm Post subject: Re: '70 Riviera: The Continuing (Mis)Adventures |
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Tram wrote: |
I'm going to tell you if there's no soot on that flange, it's not leaking so leave it alone! This isn't an uncommon thing to see in my experience. The pipe is welded to the inside of the flange and THAT'S what needs to seal. Plus, if you look at an exhaust gasket you'll see it's ridged quite a bit around the hole on both sides. Somebody go- rilla tightened the exhaust nuts at one point... no idea who. The ridges are by design to seal even with bent flanges.
Stick a wrench on it and if the nuts aren't loose, STOP and forget it. |
The upper nut was quite loose. Tightening it didn't draw the flange any closer to the head. You sure about leaving it? Seems a like a mess waiting to happen while we're in the middle of nowhere. At least the bus is parked right in front of our building right now. |
Put it through a couple really good heat and cool down cycles then check that nut cold to see if it re loosened. If not you should be good.
If you've been doing a lot of weekend trekking, etc., you should have put some good miles on it and built some confidence, so, if it were mine, I wouldn't go looking for problems. Likely the worst disaster you might encounter there is an exhaust leak. I would get one of these and keep it in my arsenal in any case:
This was pretty much the only way I was able to get the leaks at the heater box junctions stopped anyways.
All that said, the forecast is HOT to DAMN HOT for the forseeable future except for our little PNW oasis over here, and you're going to be loaded down, and plus it's "THIS BUS" so do whatever makes you feel best. If you can verify that upper nut isn't loosening up again, though, you oughta be good to go. _________________ Немає виправдання для війни! Я з Україною.
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 2:47 pm Post subject: Re: '70 Riviera: The Continuing (Mis)Adventures |
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Tram wrote: |
Put it through a couple really good heat and cool down cycles then check that nut cold to see if it re loosened. If not you should be good. |
So the loosening would indicate excessive heat on account of escaping exhaust gases?
Tram wrote: |
If you've been doing a lot of weekend trekking, etc., you should have put some good miles on it and built some confidence, so, if it were mine, I wouldn't go looking for problems. |
The thing has been driving wonderfully and confidence is good, but I was surprised by what I saw under there. Would it hurt anything to put some ultra-copper around the flange where it meets the head?
In better news, even with the slightly low oil pressure at cruise, idle oil pressure is good and the light doesn't flicker. Also, oil on the bottom of the case cleaned up significantly after replacing the paper sump plate gaskets with the silicone ones. Checked valves today and only two needed adjusting: #1 exhaust was a tight .006" and #3 intake was .004" which could've been an adjustment error last time around. Idles smoothly at around 900 rpm, dwell hasn't moved since January, there's only been one exhaust pop since re-adjusting the throttle positioner and covering the donut gaskets with ultra-copper, the leaky sliders are out and the jalousies are in, we remade the rear cushion slightly larger (was about 2" or so too short for maximum comfort), and installed an electric washer pump (much more exciting than it sounds).
We bought a Westy mirror for the closet but the dimensions are wrong for the Riviera closet door hardware placement so we still have to cut that to size and install.
The only thing that won't get done is replacing the driver's side popout. I never bought the replacement seals and trim for the large stationary window. Maybe something to do on the west coast.
If all we've got to worry about right now is the upper driver's side heat exchanger nut, then we're doing pretty damned good!
Does that JB Weld exhaust stuff work on the donut gaskets too? _________________ '69 Fuel Injected Squareback. "B" D-jet. 1600 with balanced rotating assembly and lightened flywheel. Full flow and external filter.
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Tram Samba Socialist
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 2:55 pm Post subject: Re: '70 Riviera: The Continuing (Mis)Adventures |
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No, the loosening- and I shouldn't tell you this because I know you'll chew your nails over it, but what the hell - will indicate you need a new nut OR the stud is pulling out of the head... in which case you might be looking at a muff pull and tapping for/ installing a helicoil or a step stud.
On the other hand, maybe I just didn't gorilla tighten the MFer enough on install or maybe I got daffy and spaced torquing that one nut. It's a 50/50.
The fact there's no soot is very good, though.
The copper Schmugglefatz won't do any harm. And yes, the JB Crap is what's on the donut gaskets now. _________________ Немає виправдання для війни! Я з Україною.
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 3:01 pm Post subject: Re: '70 Riviera: The Continuing (Mis)Adventures |
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Also... might I suggest setting your valves LOOSE for the heat... maybe .007. Also... consider changing trans fluid to Redline Synthetic for the trip. _________________ Немає виправдання для війни! Я з Україною.
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 8:42 pm Post subject: Re: '70 Riviera: The Continuing (Mis)Adventures |
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The window seals I got that are black are from Bus Depot |
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