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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:59 am    Post subject: Picking up the Pieces. Reply with quote

Iíve jumped into this with my eyes wide open but there is a chance Im not seeing everything. Thereís a reason for that, namely, the car is scattered all over the country. Most of the body is on the Gold Coast near Brisbane, much of the mechanicals and interior is in Melbourne and Iím in Sydney.

However, I have completed a Karmann Ghia restoration and Iím pretty sure I can repeat that success with this 365.

I saw this car in September 2017 and recognised it was a great project when I learned the owner wanted to sell it. My friend Angus Dowrie snapped it up quicker than I but when another car, an SC, showed up, He grabbed that and passed this one over to me.

This project has had a number of false starts but from now the plan it to get the bodywork done at least to paint ready. That should give me enough time to plan the project out and get it done in a proper and timely fashion.

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Back seat run repair with a new locally made panel
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view of the front portion of the car's skin
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The skins removed show very little crash damage and mostly rust repairs
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The engine lid is nearly perfect save a tiny dent in a flat portion that'll be easy to knock out.
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front trunk lid needs the front edge replaced. I've seen original Porsche parts available but those come at quite a high price.
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Doors are mostly OK and just need lower skins added.
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rear skin is mostly OK and just needs some shaping
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Head light needs new metal.
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Usual rust around the front lights and vents
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Tinwork in the engine bay is completed with new metal
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The wheels should be from Dec 64 or a little earlier, but three are Lemmerz from Dec 65 and one from Oct'68 is Kronprinz. All are 4 1/2 J15. I'll have to swap them out with something more correct.
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I have a copy of the Cardex which I will write about soon

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 3:25 am    Post subject: Re: Picking up the Pieces. Reply with quote

Looks like good bones! Best of luck Sir:<) Applause
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 3:27 am    Post subject: Re: Picking up the Pieces. Reply with quote

I'm going to like watching this project progress, I know it will turn out well after your efforts with the Ghia cabriolet.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 3:30 am    Post subject: Re: Picking up the Pieces. Reply with quote

Angus Dowrie wrote:
I'm going to like watching this project progress, I know it will turn out well after your efforts with the Ghia cabriolet.

Thanks Angus, If anything Iíve learned to keep it away from Kanagroos. When the time comes, hopefully soon, this one will be out at night only if its in the city. Laughing Cool
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 7:10 am    Post subject: Re: Picking up the Pieces. Reply with quote

More work getting done this week Laughing
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More to follow soon
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:13 am    Post subject: Re: Picking up the Pieces. Reply with quote

Ive been studying the Cardex to learn what is revealed about this particular vehicle...

I know the engine number doesn't match the cardex, but the one I have is within weeks of the "Ausgel.am" or "Delivered Date from factory" "3.12.64" which is Thursday, Third of December 1964.

"Farbe" or Colour is "Signal Rot 6407 B" "Signal Red 6407B.
"Polsterung" or "Upholstery" in Kunst.schwarz Black Vinyl

and "Anf Sonderausstattung" or "Special Equipment" was "Verchromte Lochscheibenrader" It has chromed slotted wheels.

So it would look a bit like this photo from the Gallery, but with a black interior.
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So I have a defined target Laughing

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:31 am    Post subject: Re: Picking up the Pieces. Reply with quote

Progress updates
Here is the roof being patched to repair the rust holes in the gutters.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:40 am    Post subject: Re: Picking up the Pieces. Reply with quote

Attention has been up at the front.
This how the vents appeared at first
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Then work started to fix those extra holes..
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 7:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Picking up the Pieces. Reply with quote

Glad to be stirring up the interest here on the 356 forum. Confused

More work forging ahead. We are working on the Heat tubes and under the sills

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There will be small pieces added in the lower guard, later.
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Muffer added to keep down some of the noise.
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Trial fit for the outer sill piece. This will all get a protective sealers and epoxy to stave of rust in the future.
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The RHS headlight needed more attention than expected. It started off well enough.....

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.....until a crack developed with the heat stress. Further poking showed the metal was too far gone and it was systematically replaced.
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This looks pretty good now.
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Thanks for looking
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 2:37 am    Post subject: Re: Picking up the Pieces. Reply with quote

Now the Commonwealth games are over I'll have to head down and check it out in person! Looking good.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:28 am    Post subject: Re: Picking up the Pieces. Reply with quote

Nicholas,

Don't think guys are not following your efforts! The photo's and explanations of what you are doing are excellent. I realise only too well how hard some of this work can be and how long it takes. You are doing really well and like Justin Rio on www.abcgt,com your collection of special clamping grips shows you know what you are about.

Justin also details everything like you do so well, on the repair of 356 bodywork.

I mention him because his knowledge of all areas and the best way to replace might also help you,as his procedures would have helped me no end if I had a forum like his or the Samba's one, over 40 years ago when I was struggling with mine.

It takes time too in preparing not only the explanation but all the photos to put on the forum let alone the work to do it.

So, Nicholas I thank you for this interesting thread and keep up the good work its looking good !! I have had my RHD 356A just coming up for 50 years and still really appreciate owning it. And lucky really because if I had not bitten the bullet and restored it when it was 10 years old, the UK weather would have probably finished it off not that long after like so many others over here were.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 10:15 am    Post subject: Re: Picking up the Pieces. Reply with quote

Yes thanks for posting the stuff you do. I have had to park my 356 for now and these forums are my only link right now. Your work is looking good.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 6:21 am    Post subject: Re: Picking up the Pieces. Reply with quote

Thanks guys, Its good to know Iím not playing to an empty room.
Iím used to the more lively Ghia forum, so now I know youíre all out there.
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 11:34 am    Post subject: Re: Picking up the Pieces. Reply with quote

when you see a 356 without the outer panels you realise that those porsche designers seemed to love making mud traps under that lovely bodywork
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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2018 5:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Picking up the Pieces. Reply with quote

finster wrote:
when you see a 356 without the outer panels you realise that those porsche designers seemed to love making mud traps under that lovely bodywork

Iím learning to agree. I thought Ghias were bad for it but the 356 design is something else when it comes to rust catchers.

Anyhow, the tasks are being done and the remediation continues. This week we are dealing with the heat pipes in front of the rear wheel house region.

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Then welded together on the bench
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the welds are filed out, the hole added, the piece attached to the car and the heat pipe slid through...
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....and finally the pipe welded in position
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Thatís a dayís work in itself.

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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2018 9:27 am    Post subject: Re: Picking up the Pieces. Reply with quote

Nicholas,

Some very nice neat work there on the rear heater pipes I easily can see it taking a day as nothing looking as good as that can be done in a short time.

I am convinced the factory never expected many 356 cars to be still on the road after 60 years or so. Those nooks and crannies so in-accessible to get at even just to rust protect, they are everywhere even when looking not that hard!!

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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2018 2:55 am    Post subject: Re: Picking up the Pieces. Reply with quote

Hi,

Would you be interested in selling the wheels you have?
Im interested in them because they are 4.5 inch.

Thank you.
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2018 6:52 am    Post subject: Re: Picking up the Pieces. Reply with quote

PorschepowerGhia wrote:
Hi,

Would you be interested in selling the wheels you have?
Im interested in them because they are 4.5 inch.

Thank you.

No problem with asking. I need five wheels and Iíve got four. My 100% perfect would be five wheels all of the same type date stamped late 64. However, until I find my perfect set its better to hang on to these. But then I have a buddy with a 356sc seeking exactly these, so in keeping with the principle of ďa prioriĒ he has first right of refusal. It seems everone wants these wheels Laughing

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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2018 10:29 am    Post subject: Re: Picking up the Pieces. Reply with quote

sputnick60 wrote:
PorschepowerGhia wrote:
Hi,

Would you be interested in selling the wheels you have?
Im interested in them because they are 4.5 inch.

Thank you.

No problem with asking. I need five wheels and Iíve got four. My 100% perfect would be five wheels all of the same type date stamped late 64. However, until I find my perfect set its better to hang on to these. But then I have a buddy with a 356sc seeking exactly these, so in keeping with the principle of ďa prioriĒ he has first right of refusal. It seems everone wants these wheels Laughing

Nicholas


Contact Adam Wright at Unobtanium and tell him which date code wheels you need. He should be able to get back to you with what he has available for sale. [email protected] He is located in New York so I don't know if the shipping charges will pencil out for you. Good luck.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 7:09 am    Post subject: Re: Picking up the Pieces. Reply with quote

Jon Schmid wrote:

Contact Adam Wright at Unobtanium


Thanks for the lead there Jon. I have a guy in Australia who can do similar for me ... but I'll keep this contact as a back up plan.
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