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scottf1887 Samba Member
Joined: March 14, 2014 Posts: 139 Location: Tejas Baby!!
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 8:42 am Post subject: Type 4 main bearing to case fit questions |
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I'm putting together a type 4 bottom end and I have run into an issue with my rear (flywheel) end main bearing during mock up. The case is a nice std main and the bearing is a mahle. The bearing does not want to seat into the journal of the case. It comes very close, almost to the point of meeting the top of the dowel. I'm afraid to force it in because I don't want to distort it. Is this common, or am I good to do some light tapping to force it in place? It just seems strange because the rest for in very well. Thank you for the help and I can post pics if it would help. |
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raygreenwood Samba Member
Joined: November 24, 2008 Posts: 21520 Location: Oklahoma City
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 9:16 am Post subject: Re: Type 4 main bearing to case fit questions |
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scottf1887 wrote: |
I'm putting together a type 4 bottom end and I have run into an issue with my rear (flywheel) end main bearing during mock up. The case is a nice std main and the bearing is a mahle. The bearing does not want to seat into the journal of the case. It comes very close, almost to the point of meeting the top of the dowel. I'm afraid to force it in because I don't want to distort it. Is this common, or am I good to do some light tapping to force it in place? It just seems strange because the rest for in very well. Thank you for the help and I can post pics if it would help. |
Hmmmm.....so this is standard/standard?
Getting down far enough to "almost" touch the top of the dowel....is not.....almost. Thats a good distance thinking about the length of the dowel above the bore.
The type 4 thrust bearing should fit all the way in....but quite tight... when seen from the flywheel side and inspecting the width of the counterbore all the way around. I will try and post pictures.
Ray |
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esde Samba Member
Joined: October 20, 2007 Posts: 5969 Location: central rust belt
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 9:48 am Post subject: Re: Type 4 main bearing to case fit questions |
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It's not unheard of to find a bearing in a "set" that is not the same size. Check it's part # or measure it. Maybe they get mixed up at some point of their lives, or a set gets returned with a wrong main bearing.
But as Ray said, it sound like you have a main for a case that has been align bored, that is a larger diameter than your standard case bore _________________ modok wrote:
Bent cranks are silent but gather no moss. I mean, ah, something like that. |
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scottf1887 Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 11:16 am Post subject: Re: Type 4 main bearing to case fit questions |
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Thanks for the help guys. I took measurements and it looks like I got screwed with an oversized bearing in the box...correct my math here please though. The main bores is 70.06mm, the old bearing measured 70.02 and the new bearing measured 70.55. my math tells me that new bearing is for a first cut oversize case correct? Thanks again for the help. |
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scottf1887 Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 12:36 pm Post subject: Re: Type 4 main bearing to case fit questions |
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I guess while I'm on it...does anyone have a single bearing they can sell me? Type 4 sets aren't cheap and I got this set at a swap meet last year so there's no refund in sight. Thanks! |
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modok Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2009 Posts: 26790 Location: Colorado Springs
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 2:22 pm Post subject: Re: Type 4 main bearing to case fit questions |
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I don't have any spares. I'd try to turn the OD down to standard size, and probably have a 50% chance of success . |
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scottf1887 Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:02 pm Post subject: Re: Type 4 main bearing to case fit questions |
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Yeah I considered that...I just hate to do it with all I'm putting into this motor. If anyone has one I'd really appreciate it! It's the last thing I need before sealing up the case |
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modok Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2009 Posts: 26790 Location: Colorado Springs
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:09 pm Post subject: Re: Type 4 main bearing to case fit questions |
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If you had two sets of bearings, you could mix and match to use the ones that fit best.
Silverline bearings are VERY good, even though they are low price.
I have a LOT of old bearings and I find many of them measure on the small end of spec or below.....they shrunk? Isn't that odd....but I guess they must have. We know that the tin/aluminum alloy is does creep and so forth, it's not a highly stable material.
So....I'm not real excited about using ANCIENT NOS bearings. |
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esde Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:30 pm Post subject: Re: Type 4 main bearing to case fit questions |
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I'd call FAT performance and aircooled.net about finding a loose #1 bearing. _________________ modok wrote:
Bent cranks are silent but gather no moss. I mean, ah, something like that. |
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