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oxsign Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2018 5:50 am Post subject: Hood & deck lid seal too long/short? |
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The front hood is to o ong by at least 6". That's after I slid it back to take up some slack. Is it ok to cut it to fit?
Also, the decklid seal is way to short. I'm not very familiar with Ghias. So i'm not sure if it's suppose to be and should cover a certain area only?
What am I missing here? Thanks for any/all help here. _________________ 1971 Squareback, fully bagged, 1776.
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John Moxon Samba Moderator
Joined: March 07, 2004 Posts: 13952 Location: Southampton U.K.
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oxsign Samba Member
Joined: February 19, 2006 Posts: 607 Location: Sanford, FL
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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2018 6:43 am Post subject: Re: Hood & deck lid seal to long/short? |
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John Moxon wrote: |
This is the correct fitting of the decklid seal...
Cut the trunk seal to fit at the 12 o' clock position. |
Fantastic. Thank you for the quick reply. _________________ 1971 Squareback, fully bagged, 1776.
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KGCoupe Samba Member
Joined: July 01, 2005 Posts: 3580 Location: Putting the "ill" and "annoy" in Illinois
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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2018 12:59 pm Post subject: Re: Hood & deck lid seal too long/short? |
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oxsign wrote: |
The front hood is to o ong by at least 6". That's after I slid it back to take up some slack. Is it ok to cut it to fit?
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One thing is certain - if you cut the seal to fit now, you'll practically guarantee that it will shrink a bit after a few years and leave an annoying gap.
Also, while I don't really know which way is the "correct" way to install the front trunk hood seal, logic tells me that the seam where the two ends meet would be better placed closest to the front of the car rather than closest to the windshield.
That way the water won''t have anywhere to sneak in at the high point, and will be forced to follow the channel down toward the front end where it can exit out the drains in the front corners (before it even gets to the seam in the front center of the channel). |
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sputnick60 Samba Moderator
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oxsign Samba Member
Joined: February 19, 2006 Posts: 607 Location: Sanford, FL
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 5:46 am Post subject: Re: Hood & deck lid seal too long/short? |
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KGCoupe wrote: |
oxsign wrote: |
The front hood is to o ong by at least 6". That's after I slid it back to take up some slack. Is it ok to cut it to fit?
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One thing is certain - if you cut the seal to fit now, you'll practically guarantee that it will shrink a bit after a few years and leave an annoying gap.
Also, while I don't really know which way is the "correct" way to install the front trunk hood seal, logic tells me that the seam where the two ends meet would be better placed closest to the front of the car rather than closest to the windshield.
That way the water won''t have anywhere to sneak in at the high point, and will be forced to follow the channel down toward the front end where it can exit out the drains in the front corners (before it even gets to the seam in the front center of the channel). |
The shrinking is/was our concern as well, that's why I made to post to see what others have done. I also think as @sputnick60 mention, that gluing the ends together will help with that as well. As for the area that the 2 ends will go, well that's also a topic of conversation, lol. it's pretty split 50/50 as to where/how it goes. Same goes with the rear hatch seal on my squareback (set at the top of the hatch, not the bottom). After doing some reading, turns out it came from the factory at the top on both. As well as for the Square front hood seal too. _________________ 1971 Squareback, fully bagged, 1776.
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djkeev Samba Moderator
Joined: September 30, 2007 Posts: 32589 Location: Reading Pennsylvania
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KGCoupe Samba Member
Joined: July 01, 2005 Posts: 3580 Location: Putting the "ill" and "annoy" in Illinois
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 10:24 am Post subject: Re: Hood & deck lid seal too long/short? |
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oxsign wrote: |
KGCoupe wrote: |
oxsign wrote: |
The front hood is to o ong by at least 6". That's after I slid it back to take up some slack. Is it ok to cut it to fit?
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One thing is certain - if you cut the seal to fit now, you'll practically guarantee that it will shrink a bit after a few years and leave an annoying gap.
Also, while I don't really know which way is the "correct" way to install the front trunk hood seal, logic tells me that the seam where the two ends meet would be better placed closest to the front of the car rather than closest to the windshield.
That way the water won''t have anywhere to sneak in at the high point, and will be forced to follow the channel down toward the front end where it can exit out the drains in the front corners (before it even gets to the seam in the front center of the channel). |
The shrinking is/was our concern as well, that's why I made to post to see what others have done. I also think as @sputnick60 mention, that gluing the ends together will help with that as well. As for the area that the 2 ends will go, well that's also a topic of conversation, lol. it's pretty split 50/50 as to where/how it goes. Same goes with the rear hatch seal on my squareback (set at the top of the hatch, not the bottom). [size=13]After doing some reading, turns out it came from the factory at the top on both. As well as for the Square front hood seal too.[/size |
Well I did admit right up front that "I don't really know which way is the "correct" way to install the front trunk hood seal".
Unfortunatey what I can't make excuses for is my not remembering/realizing that the two ends of the seal should be glued together, which would completely invalidate my 'logical" conclusion that the portion where the two ends meet might allow for water seepage.
Still, ... it's interesting to me that VW did not place the seam of the trunk seal at the front, as glue or no glue it wouldn't have hurt to be extra safe by placing the seam up front after the channel drains.
Not only that, but the correct placement of the engine lid seal on only the lower half of the opening also seems to defy my so-called "logic".
... but then admittedly I'm no engineer.
It's nice that even these relatively small details can be worked out and the answers made readily available to anyone with internet access. |
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