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67ctbug Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2018 4:01 pm Post subject: Body Will NOT sit on Chassis |
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I’m trying to put the body on the chassis to get ready for channels and to finalize the firewall and it won’t sit... here’s a few pics-
Any ideas why this is happening? _________________ '67 Beetle L41
'74 Westfalia
'69 Plymouth "Adam-12"
'63 Ragtop
'73 914
'72 Dodge Wrecker
Go Cubs!
World Series Champions 2016
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...or the PO envied the terrorists' bus in "Back to the Future". |
mukluk wrote: |
He's fine, just waiting for the dragon in winklepickers to move out of his lane. |
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BIGMIKEY Samba Member
Joined: September 24, 2007 Posts: 1105 Location: North East Pennsylvania
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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2018 10:58 pm Post subject: Re: Body Will NOT sit on Chassis |
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Did the body come off that chassis? Did it distort when you took it off?
If the channels are bad enough the body could twist out of shape when the body is lifted. Try making some alignment pins out of some old bolts to guide the body into position. Two in front on the beam and two in back at the shock towers.
Mike T _________________ BIGMIKEY
Deserter Series 1 project.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=787047&highlight=
1973 Beetle Driver, Marina Blue. |
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Pruneman99 Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2012 Posts: 5013 Location: Oceanside
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 1:52 am Post subject: Re: Body Will NOT sit on Chassis |
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It's hard to say from pictures because they lack depth.
What's hanging up? Or what seems to be out of alignment?
With those rusty rails, the body is probably all sorts of twisted.. your gonna have to see what it needs to do to sit right. But watch those fingers in the gap: it's likely to fall home while they're in there! |
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Derek Cobb Annoying
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 5:51 am Post subject: Re: Body Will NOT sit on Chassis |
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Late chassis early body? The rear mounts need to be cut shorter if that's the case. |
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Redlines Samba Member
Joined: June 07, 2009 Posts: 168 Location: Fredonia, NY
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 9:24 am Post subject: Re: Body Will NOT sit on Chassis |
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Yes, what year body a what year chassis? That could be your answer! |
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67ctbug Samba Member
Joined: January 24, 2016 Posts: 3624 Location: CT
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 9:29 am Post subject: Re: Body Will NOT sit on Chassis |
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‘67 body and ‘67 chassis. I split them probably 1 year or 2 ago. They sat fine last year so I don’t know what’s up. The door jams are both 36.5” across and the shock tower bolts line up and the beam bolts line up so... _________________ '67 Beetle L41
'74 Westfalia
'69 Plymouth "Adam-12"
'63 Ragtop
'73 914
'72 Dodge Wrecker
Go Cubs!
World Series Champions 2016
KentPS wrote: |
...or the PO envied the terrorists' bus in "Back to the Future". |
mukluk wrote: |
He's fine, just waiting for the dragon in winklepickers to move out of his lane. |
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bigdog1962 Samba Member
Joined: August 11, 2010 Posts: 1586 Location: Augusta, Georgia
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 2:08 pm Post subject: Re: Body Will NOT sit on Chassis |
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Did you replace the framehead or napoleon's hat? _________________ Oprn wrote: I'm getting to the age that any self propelled woman (no wheel chair or walker) looks HOT!! Oooo! look at that Babe! She made it from the dining room all the way to the TV room without help!! Hubba, hubba!! |
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67ctbug Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 2:56 pm Post subject: Re: Body Will NOT sit on Chassis |
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Napoleons was partially replaced on the ends. It wasn't full replaced though. The firewall isn't in though, so that shouldn't really matter right. _________________ '67 Beetle L41
'74 Westfalia
'69 Plymouth "Adam-12"
'63 Ragtop
'73 914
'72 Dodge Wrecker
Go Cubs!
World Series Champions 2016
KentPS wrote: |
...or the PO envied the terrorists' bus in "Back to the Future". |
mukluk wrote: |
He's fine, just waiting for the dragon in winklepickers to move out of his lane. |
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EA812 Samba Member
Joined: December 07, 2008 Posts: 1223 Location: North central, CT
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67ctbug Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 4:15 pm Post subject: Re: Body Will NOT sit on Chassis |
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Looks fine to me... except the driver side needs to be hammered down.
_________________ '67 Beetle L41
'74 Westfalia
'69 Plymouth "Adam-12"
'63 Ragtop
'73 914
'72 Dodge Wrecker
Go Cubs!
World Series Champions 2016
KentPS wrote: |
...or the PO envied the terrorists' bus in "Back to the Future". |
mukluk wrote: |
He's fine, just waiting for the dragon in winklepickers to move out of his lane. |
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67ctbug Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 5:00 pm Post subject: Re: Body Will NOT sit on Chassis |
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EA812, you might be on to something. I just lifted the floor pan pretty close to where it needs to be. _________________ '67 Beetle L41
'74 Westfalia
'69 Plymouth "Adam-12"
'63 Ragtop
'73 914
'72 Dodge Wrecker
Go Cubs!
World Series Champions 2016
KentPS wrote: |
...or the PO envied the terrorists' bus in "Back to the Future". |
mukluk wrote: |
He's fine, just waiting for the dragon in winklepickers to move out of his lane. |
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EA812 Samba Member
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EA812 Samba Member
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67ctbug Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 5:07 pm Post subject: Re: Body Will NOT sit on Chassis |
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I don't think the nap hat is bent up, I replaced the two ends and they were on straight. I'll go do more investigating tomorrow. _________________ '67 Beetle L41
'74 Westfalia
'69 Plymouth "Adam-12"
'63 Ragtop
'73 914
'72 Dodge Wrecker
Go Cubs!
World Series Champions 2016
KentPS wrote: |
...or the PO envied the terrorists' bus in "Back to the Future". |
mukluk wrote: |
He's fine, just waiting for the dragon in winklepickers to move out of his lane. |
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EA812 Samba Member
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bigdog1962 Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 5:32 pm Post subject: Re: Body Will NOT sit on Chassis |
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The reason I asked about Napoleon's hat and frame head was because on a previous bug I had someone weld both of them on for me. Then when trying to put the body back down it would not go. They had welded the Napoleon hat and frame head on to high and I was unable to bolt the body to the frame. _________________ Oprn wrote: I'm getting to the age that any self propelled woman (no wheel chair or walker) looks HOT!! Oooo! look at that Babe! She made it from the dining room all the way to the TV room without help!! Hubba, hubba!! |
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67ctbug Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 5:40 pm Post subject: Re: Body Will NOT sit on Chassis |
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That bracket is there and the nap hat is welded where it should be. I made sure of that when I did it. _________________ '67 Beetle L41
'74 Westfalia
'69 Plymouth "Adam-12"
'63 Ragtop
'73 914
'72 Dodge Wrecker
Go Cubs!
World Series Champions 2016
KentPS wrote: |
...or the PO envied the terrorists' bus in "Back to the Future". |
mukluk wrote: |
He's fine, just waiting for the dragon in winklepickers to move out of his lane. |
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EA812 Samba Member
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67ctbug Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 6:06 pm Post subject: Re: Body Will NOT sit on Chassis |
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EA812 wrote: |
67ctbug wrote: |
That bracket is there and the nap hat is welded where it should be. I ma. de sure of that when I did it. |
I ask about that bracket cause somebody cut one off on our 65 for a pan half replacement . I guess they thought that was easier than cutting the pan😂 |
_________________ '67 Beetle L41
'74 Westfalia
'69 Plymouth "Adam-12"
'63 Ragtop
'73 914
'72 Dodge Wrecker
Go Cubs!
World Series Champions 2016
KentPS wrote: |
...or the PO envied the terrorists' bus in "Back to the Future". |
mukluk wrote: |
He's fine, just waiting for the dragon in winklepickers to move out of his lane. |
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12857 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 6:39 pm Post subject: Re: Body Will NOT sit on Chassis |
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The thin floor pans can warp/sag in the middle of the outer edge, especially as you put weight on the pans during welding. Bolting them to the heater channels will draw them up. _________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it. |
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