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semu Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:36 pm Post subject: 1970 karmann ghia rear seat restoration |
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Looking for some help with pictures/videos or any kind advice/tip on how to restore the 1970 Karmann Ghia rear seat?! Please share some videos or images from start to the end! Thank you! |
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xzener Samba Member
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djkeev Samba Moderator
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Mellow Yellow 74 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:45 pm Post subject: Re: 1970 karmann ghia rear seat restoration |
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djkeev wrote: |
Honestly, the seat is quite simple. A sheet of plywood with foam rubber glued to it. |
I don’t think it is that simple - both the plywood and the foam have to be tapered down in the right locations so the seat sits in position over the body and tunnel properly. _________________ 1962 Karmann Ghia
1974 Deluxe Microbus
1985 Caravelle (Vanagon) |
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djkeev Samba Moderator
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Figment Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 4:49 am Post subject: Re: 1970 karmann ghia rear seat restoration |
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If I may piggyback on the topic.... what is the correct latch or device to hold the seat back in the up position for a 70 or 71 coupe?
(I think the PO replaced the parcel shelf with a repop, there are no clues that I can see to indicate how it might have been done originally) _________________ '71 Ghia coupe |
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djkeev Samba Moderator
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semu Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 8:39 am Post subject: Re: 1970 karmann ghia rear seat restoration |
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Thanks everyone with your help! The biggest challange I have is the rear seat bottom, I see a lot of pictures before and after, but if can someone share some pictures showing the process (i mean what goes first and how) that would be awesome! When I bought mine, the back seat was missing and I have now idea how it should look like. I bought the wood piece and they send some foam with it, but when i try to put everything together i does not look right and then upholstery looks weird and it makes me think that I'm missing something!
Again, thanks for sharing! |
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xzener Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 8:44 am Post subject: Re: 1970 karmann ghia rear seat restoration |
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So you have a piece of plywood with some foam on it?? The underside is contoured to fit the tunnel I believe. Let's see a picture of what you have so we can go from there.
I can un-bury my seat and take some pics. It's in original condition... But under a crap ton of Ghia parts.
_________________ My 70 beetle was totaled Now to build the Ghia I always wanted. Rest in peace Ruby, I will miss you. Hello <insert Ghia name here>! |
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CiderGuy Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 9:46 am Post subject: Re: 1970 karmann ghia rear seat restoration |
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Seat Assembly made by Loren for 1958 Convertible)
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djkeev Samba Moderator
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xzener Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 9:50 am Post subject: Re: 1970 karmann ghia rear seat restoration |
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Cider, is that yours?? We could definitely use some measured out plans. _________________ My 70 beetle was totaled Now to build the Ghia I always wanted. Rest in peace Ruby, I will miss you. Hello <insert Ghia name here>! |
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CiderGuy Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 10:05 am Post subject: Re: 1970 karmann ghia rear seat restoration |
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It isn't mine but check this out.
My damn tablet won't allow me to copy and paste images from the gallery.
{mod edit: fixed} |
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djkeev Samba Moderator
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xzener Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 10:37 am Post subject: Re: 1970 karmann ghia rear seat restoration |
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The trick is the bottom piece that molds around the tunnel area where the shift coupler cover is. Good luck. _________________ My 70 beetle was totaled Now to build the Ghia I always wanted. Rest in peace Ruby, I will miss you. Hello <insert Ghia name here>! |
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CiderGuy Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 2:53 pm Post subject: Re: 1970 karmann ghia rear seat restoration |
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djkeev wrote: |
Keep in mind, the Coupe and the Convertible are completely different sizes and the seat back hinges differently.
That photo is for an older Ghia too.
New ones are quite simply....... plywood.
Dave |
Dave
Tomorrow I will post some pictures from a 1970 Ghia convertible rear seat which seems to look just like the older ones you're referring to. My rear seat has a wood frame. I do disagree with your observation. |
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djkeev Samba Moderator
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djkeev Samba Moderator
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:18 am Post subject: Re: 1970 karmann ghia rear seat restoration |
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Oh my!
What a mess!
Thus Convertible seat bottom has spent WAY too much time wet!
The staples didn't need to be pulled out..... the fell out or rysted off.
The rear center section around the shift coupler access plate is simply glued to the metal bar and to the foam..... rather tenaciously if I do say so! Even after 48 years and more soakings than can be counted!
I got the cover off whole, my Wife will be able to reverse engineer it and sew up a new one, it isn't complex really.....
Here is the plywood once the cover ceased holding it in shape.....
I literally had a pile of wood fiber!
The foam was adhered to the wooden frame, glued or simply time fused?
I carefully peeled them apart and any hope of wooden form vanished!
The foam is molded to fit around the wooden strengtheners that run the edges.
And just the wood......
34 3/4" wide
I have a good sheet of 3/8" ply.
I'll trace/layout the shape of the seat and cut a new one sooner rather than later while it is fresh in my mind.
I'll rip down some fir for the edges and rebuild the seat frame.
The metal "U" is simply Pop Riveted onto the wood frame.
With Summer coming and the sanitizing rays it delivers, I'll lay that foam in the Sun for many days to air out and lose any musty smell it may have.
Yes, I'll reuse it.
I should probably pull the seat back cover and see what kind of a rotten mess I have there!
Dave _________________ Stop Dead Photo Links how to post photos
Ghia
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=392473
Vanagon
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=6315537#6315537
Beetle
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=482968&highlight=74+super+vert |
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