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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 1:41 pm    Post subject: 1978 Westfalia Build Reply with quote

Hi all

I'm doing my first build thread here to both share the work I am doing on my new Camper as well as keep a record of all the work I've done.

The bus itself is a beige 1978 Westfalia with an automatic transmission. It's been sitting in a barn for about the past 20 years and was recently rescued by Andrew Flint (Flint European Auto). He offered it to me early last week and I really didn't need another project.....so I went out and looked at it on Friday.

The camper is a bit crusty around the edges--typical of buses that have lived in the northeast. However, the body is straight, it appears to be more or less complete and the undercarriage seems alright. It's definitely a bus worth saving so I am happy to begin bringing it back to roadworthiness. (And now I'll have my 72 for summer commuting and the camper for weekend trips Cool )

First order of business is airing the thing out and ripping out the interior. The mouse smell in this bus is biblical in intensity. (Definitely going to need a respirator for this one...)

Anyway, here are some pictures!


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Some were taken by Andrew on the recovery. This bus came with a big folder full of service records dating back to 1980 including the used car guarantee from the VW Dealer one of the prior owners purchased the bus from. (Sold for $7850 with a $1200 down payment)

Looking forward to getting this one back on the road Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 4:16 pm    Post subject: Re: 1978 Westfalia Build Reply with quote

Cool, we are in the middle of getting out 78 camper in shape for a trip in July. Hopefully I can get some ideas from your thread when we start digging deeper into things!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:04 am    Post subject: Re: 1978 Westfalia Build Reply with quote

Glad to see this go to a good home! I'm glad I'm not the one that gets to empty this thing out, it's one of the worst smelling vans I've seen.
I was happy to also pull out of that barn some window frames from the 1800's and an old Diamondback racing mountain bike from about 1993.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 3:40 pm    Post subject: Re: 1978 Westfalia Build Reply with quote

Today was a nice bright sunny to go pick up the Westy from Andrews shop. Fortunately, he let me borrow his flatbed trailer so I did not need to hire a towtruck. Me, my step dad and my neighbor got it loaded up today.


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And got it unloaded at the house early this afternoon


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And now the fun task of getting it all cleaned out has begun. I had the doors open all afternoon to air it out and began spraying down the interior surfaces with disinfectant.


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I'm trying to take it slow with the clean out---don't want to get sick from all these mice droppings. Cleaning messes like these you need to air out and disinfect and avoid stirring up dust.


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Getting a little closer look at the body....


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I expected the rockers to be rustier Cool And the underside looks decent, a product of being stored in a good dry barn.


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Rear corners need a little bit of work however...

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Tomorrow, picking up some more disinfectant and face masks and the clean out continues
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 6:04 pm    Post subject: Re: 1978 Westfalia Build Reply with quote

Very cool! Cool Mud flaps and over riders and a propane tank??? Now I'm jealous...

Have fun with it!
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 6:11 pm    Post subject: Re: 1978 Westfalia Build Reply with quote

daniel5560 wrote:
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Wow!, rust is contagious there, even the trailer has issues! Shocked

Although semi crusty it's still got most of it's OG body seams, at least you don't have to undo someone elses bodges. Good luck with the rodent and hippie poo, work safe please, you can't enjoy it from a hospital bed or the grave. Wink

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Load it up ass end first next time (or put the front wheels all the way up to the front at least), late buses make trailers behave badly when all the weight is at the rear. You never want to get into one of those situation where you don't have the trailer, it's got you Shocked
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 9:54 am    Post subject: Re: 1978 Westfalia Build Reply with quote

The trailer has definitely seen better days but it’s still able to get the job done. Danny has it loaded correctly with the center of the weight being slightly more toward the tongue of the trailer. That is a good point you bring up Busdaddy, you don’t want a tail heavy trailer or else it can take over your control very quickly.
I’m looking forward to getting a good look inside this bus once he’s got it cleaned out, I wasn’t brave enough to venture in it. Hope you’re going to let the old decals on the windows stay there.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 10:02 am    Post subject: Re: 1978 Westfalia Build Reply with quote

Busdaddy, thanks for the tip on the trailering. I will keep that in mind if/when the next time this is on the trailer.

I am happy to see the original body seams--there might be crust but at least I know the likelihood of discovering a bondo nightmare is lower.

Well, the weather today was less than ideal but I wanted to make a little more progress on the Camper. I headed down to Home Depot to get more cleaner, some better gloves and more masks. I opted to get a respirator with P100 filters instead of another package of N95 facemasks. Also picked up a gallon jug of concentrated disinfectant and another spray bottle and some longer neoprene gloves.


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Got the rear trunk cleaned out better. I've been soaking every surface with the disinfectant to try and kill the smell and any other diseases that may lie in all this crap.


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Popped the roof to get that airing out. Down in the back is a rather large mouse nest Mad Once this airs out for a few days I'll get to work cleaning it out. Too bad they got to it, it looks like the canvas was in good shape when it was put away.


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Mice had even built nests around the edges of the poptop! Boy I hate mice, that rust is the result of the packed grass and nut shells they left in there. I soaked it all with cleaner and blasted it out with the hose. Fortunately, the rust is superficial and I should be able to blast it and get some epoxy primer on it for now.


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Looked over the engine. It all seems to be there, even the EGR setup is still hooked up. It's not seized either! Turned over with a wrench and seemed to have compression.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 2:57 am    Post subject: Re: 1978 Westfalia Build Reply with quote

xoo00oox wrote:
The trailer has definitely seen better days but it’s still able to get the job done. Danny has it loaded correctly with the center of the weight being slightly more toward the tongue of the trailer. That is a good point you bring up Busdaddy, you don’t want a tail heavy trailer or else it can take over your control very quickly.
I’m looking forward to getting a good look inside this bus once he’s got it cleaned out, I wasn’t brave enough to venture in it. Hope you’re going to let the old decals on the windows stay there.


Those old decals in the window are going to stay! The give the bus a lot of it's "bus" character.

I'll have some more pics of the interior soon, I got most of the junk out of it and am just waiting for delivery of my new rug doctor cleaner to do the seats and carpets. Surprisingly, the mice didn't destroy the cushions and carpet and I think they'll clean up nice.
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2018 4:29 pm    Post subject: Re: 1978 Westfalia Build Reply with quote

Well now the weather in New England is finally clearing up!

Such a beautiful day today, I decided to get a little more cleaning done on the 78 after work.


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Picked this up to shampoo the carpets and upholstery. So far I'm very pleased with it, and it sucked a lot of dirt out of the seats and floors!


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Rear seat is in pretty nice shape.


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The front seats look alright, most of the horsehair filling has long since degraded and only the wire frames are underneath the cloth.


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Did a quick shampoo of the front carpet and center carpet.


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And ripped out the old headliner. Up above the headline was the largest mouse nest I have ever seen....and the wood was pretty well shot. So into the fire pit it goes.

Bit by bit I'm getting this all cleaned out, once that's done I can focus on getting it back into showroom condition Cool
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2018 7:20 pm    Post subject: Re: 1978 Westfalia Build Reply with quote

Nice man. It was a beautiful day right? Decent bones on this. The rust kind of sucks, but plenty of other things to help you overlook it, like overriders etc. Will take some significant work though. Which direction you looking to go with the motor?
Looks like you have some good bootlegs tapes there, what shows? Judging by the bumper stickers, you have a late 90's Phish fan's bus. Much like my first bus!
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 2:05 pm    Post subject: Re: 1978 Westfalia Build Reply with quote

Gregg in the 603 wrote:
Nice man. It was a beautiful day right? Decent bones on this. The rust kind of sucks, but plenty of other things to help you overlook it, like overriders etc. Will take some significant work though. Which direction you looking to go with the motor?
Looks like you have some good bootlegs tapes there, what shows? Judging by the bumper stickers, you have a late 90's Phish fan's bus. Much like my first bus!


I'm not sure yet on the engine. From what I can tell based on the receipts I have it only has 106,000 miles on it. So if everything looks good, a top end rebuild might be all I'll do
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 7:15 pm    Post subject: Re: 1978 Westfalia Build Reply with quote

If the bus smells bad you need to pull the interior and the carpet. Remove the top, you’ll replace the canvas anyway.

There’s a subfloor under the carpet thats probably full of mold. All sorts of bad stuff stuck behind the bed, under the cabinets...no amount of cleaner could get to it otherwise. New carpet.

Did 2. They were absolutely disgusting, and in way better shape than that Bus.

Good luck!
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 8:55 pm    Post subject: Re: 1978 Westfalia Build Reply with quote

Make sure you make a pattern off your old headliner so you can make a new one. I also had a bus filled with mice stuff and one of my main areas was the fresh air boxes right where your kick panels go. Hard to clean then but they were stuffed with mice nesting.
Otherwise that’s a keeper.
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 10:13 pm    Post subject: Re: 1978 Westfalia Build Reply with quote

I'm a bit late to the show, but......

Hanta virus has always been a fear of mine. So a couple weeks back, while resurrecting a friend's old 1600, I pulled the fan shroud and found loads of mouse poop. So it compelled me to go online and search info on Hanta. Despite reading a fair bit about it years ago, I discovered this time around that the virus only survives for a week or so in the feces and urine (only a couple days in sunlight).

So even though you're probably wrapped up cleaning, at least you can rest knowing that at least THAT virus wasn't active. But man, I hear you, I wrap fully and wear a respirator when I gotta work aroud that crap!

Best wishes.
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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2018 3:41 am    Post subject: Re: 1978 Westfalia Build Reply with quote

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If the bus smells bad you need to pull the interior and the carpet. Remove the top, you’ll replace the canvas anyway.

There’s a subfloor under the carpet thats probably full of mold. All sorts of bad stuff stuck behind the bed, under the cabinets...no amount of cleaner could get to it otherwise. New carpet.

Did 2. They were absolutely disgusting, and in way better shape than that Bus.

Good luck!


Mice really do a good job of wrecking everything. The camper interior is going to have to come out definitely
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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2018 7:21 am    Post subject: Re: 1978 Westfalia Build Reply with quote

Busstom wrote:
I'm a bit late to the show, but......

Hanta virus has always been a fear of mine. So a couple weeks back, while resurrecting a friend's old 1600, I pulled the fan shroud and found loads of mouse poop. So it compelled me to go online and search info on Hanta. Despite reading a fair bit about it years ago, I discovered this time around that the virus only survives for a week or so in the feces and urine (only a couple days in sunlight).

So even though you're probably wrapped up cleaning, at least you can rest knowing that at least THAT virus wasn't active. But man, I hear you, I wrap fully and wear a respirator when I gotta work aroud that crap!

Best wishes.


When I was first getting into old VWs years ago, my mom was always worried about Hanta virus and constantly warning me about it.

Good to know it only survives a week!
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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2018 5:40 am    Post subject: Re: 1978 Westfalia Build Reply with quote

Ripped out most of the interior yesterday to clean behind the cabinets and underneath the subfloor. Pulled out some more mouse nests behind the panels and soaked everything with cleaner.


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The easiest thing to do was just grab the hose and a scrub brush and spray it all out


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The cargo floor in this thing is near perfect, a few small dime sized spots of surface rust.

The sub floor was also surprisingly decent. I was expecting it to be trashed. I'll probably replace it before I start using the camper but for now it will do.


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Tossed all the camper interior back in for now, nothing is bolted down it's just sitting in place. All the interior I cleaned while it was out, and found most of the shelves and misc. pieces to the main stove cabinet.

Next on the agenda is removing the upper bunk and poptop canvas.
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