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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 7:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Driving without front shocks bad or really bad? Reply with quote

Spike0180 wrote:
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If I find a shock but don't have the hardware can I attach it with zip ties?


yup.


**results may vary**


Red on left, green on right?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Driving without front shocks bad or really bad? Reply with quote

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Red on left, green on right?


Did you just get all nautical up in here? Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Driving without front shocks bad or really bad? Reply with quote

Or one if by land, two if by sea?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 12:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Driving without front shocks bad or really bad? Reply with quote

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Red on left, green on right?


Speaking vertically, top is stop.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 6:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Driving without front shocks bad or really bad? Reply with quote

Why is this thread still breathing? Oh, the pain reminds us we are still alive!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 8:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Driving without front shocks bad or really bad? Reply with quote

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Why is this thread still breathing? Oh, the pain reminds us we are still alive!


Cause it's like a car accident. We can't help but look... Wink

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Driving without front shocks bad or really bad? Reply with quote

well, the 'bad or really bad?' phrase does not do it justice.
more like: 'leads to fatality or fatalities?'
shock absorbers are really popular for a reason, we all like getting to our
destination.
May I recommend buckling up & not using you phone while you drive as well?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Driving without front shocks bad or really bad? Reply with quote

well, the 'bad or really bad?' phrase does not do it justice.
more like: 'leads to fatality or fatalities?'
shock absorbers are STILL really popular for a reason, we all like getting to our
destination.
May I recommend buckling up & not using you phone while you drive as well?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 3:54 am    Post subject: Re: Driving without front shocks bad or really bad? Reply with quote

Those videos made this thread totally awesome.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 12:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Driving without front shocks bad or really bad? Reply with quote

Hmm... Think

OP says that he has been driving with no shock for awhile now... Confused

OP says that he now hears a squeak, which is likely from a broken torsion leaf... Sad

People with knowledge, some of it first hand, answer his question about whether he should go on a 250-mile trip in this condition. All in the negative. Speak to the hand

And yet, everything seems fine. Razz

1 + 1 = I dunno. 0? Shocked

OK, man. Clearly, you're good to go! Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 7:41 am    Post subject: Re: Driving without front shocks bad or really bad? Reply with quote

tolstoy wrote:
Who's over reacting? You don't seem to understand the need for shocks since you are on here asking if it would be ok to drive 250 miles without them. Apparently, as previously pointed out, you just wanted everyone to verify that what you plan on doing anyway was a good idea. Sorry to disapoint you.

Are you planning on driving the full distance at under 10mph? Watch that video of the truck with no front shocks. Your bus weighs a third more than that, and they were maybe doing 15mph and didn't even hit much of a bump. Do that in your van at highway speed and at best you give your shorts a paint job, and at worse you kill someone. Is it worth the risk?

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Uhm, you were over reacting...
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 7:48 am    Post subject: Re: Driving without front shocks bad or really bad? UPDATE Reply with quote

I drove around 300 miles into the Texas back country a few weeks ago and didn't have any issues other than the squeakiness. The handling wasn't great but I have been driving a bus since 1990 and can pretty much compensate for the squirrelyness Wink

So yesterday I added more grease after replacing the fittings, I was able to pump enough so that it leaked out both sides near the ball joints
I then filled the center one until the grease cam out under neath the center link pin. I then installed KYB gas shocks.

I drove it around and didn't hear any squeaking as before, until I turned around.
So it does still squeak when turning or hitting a bump, but it is upwards of 80% better.

The ball joints were replaced about a year ago and all the boots are in tact.
I am wondering what else to check, there are only 3 zerk fittings upfront correct?
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 8:18 am    Post subject: Re: Driving without front shocks bad or really bad? UPDATE Reply with quote

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, there are only 3 zerk fittings upfront correct?


Incorrect. 5
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 8:46 am    Post subject: Re: Driving without front shocks bad or really bad? Reply with quote

Where are the other 2? I don't have any on the ball joints.
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 9:25 am    Post subject: Re: Driving without front shocks bad or really bad? Reply with quote

The danger here is that a test drive will go fine, and a shock-less car driver will think, ok, this will work fine.

When you hit the right combination of bumps, wallows, etc that resonantly transfer the energy into the torsion bars (that is, the bumps are akin to pushing a swing at the end of its travel) then either a loss of control, or broken leaves, will result - probably both.

if you do hit something, and get inspected, the stupidity tax on this one should be high enough to convince you from trying it again.
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 9:45 am    Post subject: Re: Driving without front shocks bad or really bad? Reply with quote

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Where are the other 2? I don't have any on the ball joints.


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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 9:51 am    Post subject: Re: Driving without front shocks bad or really bad? Reply with quote

Thanks! I missed the 2 near the front.
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 9:54 am    Post subject: Re: Driving without front shocks bad or really bad? Reply with quote

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the stupidity tax on this one should be high enough to convince you from trying it again.


You are the reason I rarely post on the Dramba anymore...

I am well aware of the function and necessity of shocks. But I am not sure why you seem so butt hurt about me driving it with 1 shock since the other one was broken for months before I found out during brake work. For the record, I never drove it WITHOUT shocks...
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 10:16 am    Post subject: Re: Driving without front shocks bad or really bad? Reply with quote

James Dwan wrote:
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the stupidity tax on this one should be high enough to convince you from trying it again.


You are the reason I rarely post on the Dramba anymore...

I am well aware of the function and necessity of shocks. But I am not sure why you seem so butt hurt about me driving it with 1 shock since the other one was broken for months before I found out during brake work. For the record, I never drove it WITHOUT shocks...


Tell me, would you swim here? If yes ignore the rest of the question - if not how would you advise someone who was near the water's edge? Many folks see the danger in what you were asking about, and are simply trying to avoid having you hurt yourself or someone else.

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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 10:20 am    Post subject: Re: Driving without front shocks bad or really bad? Reply with quote

maybe it's because this thread is titled
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that people have the idea that you are/were driving without shocks..


James Dwan wrote:
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the stupidity tax on this one should be high enough to convince you from trying it again.


You are the reason I rarely post on the Dramba anymore...

I am well aware of the function and necessity of shocks. But I am not sure why you seem so butt hurt about me driving it with 1 shock since the other one was broken for months before I found out during brake work. For the record, I never drove it WITHOUT shocks...

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