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MAMEDE Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:06 pm Post subject: 1959 Vintage Speed Bus - Opinions? |
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Hello guys,
Im work on projetc with:
Car: bus 1959 with semaphores
Case 36hp
Cranckshaft 69mm from Wofsburgwest
Original Beans
Kits 77mm from AA
Cameshaft from Wolfsburgwest
Heads with compression rate 8.0
Exhaust seabring from Vintage Speed
Admission Supercharger Judson for 40hp
Carburator weber 32 similar of the solex 28
Distributor Bosch 019
Doghouse shroud from Empi
Aluminum oil cooler with adapter
Oil pump with filter
Original generator with big cooler
Pulley OT from 356
Light Flywheel from 356
The rest, original
I would like the opinion from the vintage speeders?!
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volksartist Samba Member
Joined: May 26, 2004 Posts: 264 Location: Muskoka
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 10:46 am Post subject: Re: 1959 Vintage Speed Bus - Opinions? |
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Sounds cool. Will you have an alignment issue with 40hp Judson on 36hp block? Why use a 54-55 motor in a 59? 59 motors are cheaper and parts are easier to find. |
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MAMEDE Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:22 pm Post subject: Re: 1959 Vintage Speed Bus - Opinions? |
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I will use a 59 case, with all new parts. In this week I will start the project. |
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Jacks Samba Member
Joined: July 15, 2006 Posts: 2348 Location: San Clemente, Ca.
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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 1:15 am Post subject: Re: 1959 Vintage Speed Bus - Opinions? |
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I'm interested in seeing the "original beans" you mentioned. What do they look like??? _________________ Jack Staggs
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MAMEDE Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 5:17 am Post subject: Re: 1959 Vintage Speed Bus - Opinions? |
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Hi Jacks,
When I say original beams, I mean without modification. |
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earthquake Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:14 pm Post subject: Re: 1959 Vintage Speed Bus - Opinions? |
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Why isn't some body making reproductions of the Judson? it is such a simple device. you could use a piece of thick wall aluminum tubing to make the housing and have it hard anodized for wear, you could either make the carb adapter bolt on or weld it on.
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MAMEDE Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:59 pm Post subject: Re: 1959 Vintage Speed Bus - Opinions? |
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Jacks wrote: |
I'm interested in seeing the "original beans" you mentioned. What do they look like??? |
I will put some pics for you!! |
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MAMEDE Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:02 pm Post subject: Re: 1959 Vintage Speed Bus - Opinions? |
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earthquake wrote: |
Why isn't some body making reproductions of the Judson? it is such a simple device. you could use a piece of thick wall aluminum tubing to make the housing and have it hard anodized for wear, you could either make the carb adapter bolt on or weld it on.
Casey |
The Speedwell it is a supercharger with same function of the Judson. But I have the Judson kit for 1300cc. For my project it is ideal. |
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Jacks Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 11:50 pm Post subject: Re: 1959 Vintage Speed Bus - Opinions? |
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MAMEDE wrote: |
Hi Jacks,
When I say original beams, I mean without modification. |
Now beams? I guess you are referring to connecting rods. You first wrote "beans". _________________ Jack Staggs
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Peter_N Samba Member
Joined: February 19, 2014 Posts: 321 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 5:46 am Post subject: Re: 1959 Vintage Speed Bus - Opinions? |
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Looking forward to your build!
I'm by no means a vintage speeder, but haven't people ran into problems with overheating the supercharger because of the weight of a bus and the fact that it's less streamlined? _________________ My 1958 PGSG project topic |
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MAMEDE Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:33 pm Post subject: Re: 1959 Vintage Speed Bus - Opinions? |
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Jacks wrote: |
MAMEDE wrote: |
Hi Jacks,
When I say original beams, I mean without modification. |
Now beams? I guess you are referring to connecting rods. You first wrote "beans". |
connecting rods, sorry me!! |
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MAMEDE Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:39 pm Post subject: Re: 1959 Vintage Speed Bus - Opinions? |
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Peter_N wrote: |
Looking forward to your build!
I'm by no means a vintage speeder, but haven't people ran into problems with overheating the supercharger because of the weight of a bus and the fact that it's less streamlined? |
I will put a new doghouse with extern radiator, big oil pump with filter. And deflector outside the vent grills for air recycle. Is a new projetc for me, but I will build some modifications for dont have a problems!! |
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Mike Fisher Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2018 12:55 pm Post subject: Re: 1959 Vintage Speed Bus - Opinions? |
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'Watching' your topic as the Judson will look awesome under your hood!
More cooling/oil is probably a good idea but I don't think you necessarily need a bigger oil pump.
John Moxon in the UK used to sell Judson Supercharger decals.
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MAMEDE Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2018 3:27 pm Post subject: Re: 1959 Vintage Speed Bus - Opinions? |
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Mike Fisher wrote: |
'Watching' your topic as the Judson will look awesome under your hood!
More cooling/oil is probably a good idea but I don't think you necessarily need a bigger oil pump.
John Moxon in the UK used to sell Judson Supercharger decals.
P.S. If you ever want to change (edit or delete) your posts click on the Edit tab up on the right. If you have trouble ask EverettB for help. |
Thank you so much dude!!
Im prefer a other oil pump because I will put the pump with oil filter. More oil and new filter model. |
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Braukuche Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 12:49 pm Post subject: Re: 1959 Vintage Speed Bus - Opinions? |
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Supercharger will have clearence issues in a bus. The filter will be too tall and will not fit under the parcel tray.
You can either track down a 36hp ambulance specific intake which is lower to allow for a governor, or cut down a regular intake. _________________ Go Reds! Smash state!
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MAMEDE Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 2:17 pm Post subject: Re: 1959 Vintage Speed Bus - Opinions? |
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Braukuche wrote: |
Supercharger will have clearence issues in a bus. The filter will be too tall and will not fit under the parcel tray.
You can either track down a 36hp ambulance specific intake which is lower to allow for a governor, or cut down a regular intake. |
Thanks for your opinion dude.
In the manual of the Judson the suggestion is cur the intake. The carburator it is smaller of the original solex 28. I think I'll gain some space with this and with intake cut.
Here the explation of the Judson manual:
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MAMEDE Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2018 6:48 am Post subject: Re: 1959 Vintage Speed Bus - Opinions? |
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New air cooled tins for 36hp
Long oil tube for new sump
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AirCooledClassics Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 7:27 am Post subject: Re: 1959 Vintage Speed Bus - Opinions? |
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I was always told that the Judson did not respond well to other mods. I a;m putting my judson on to my stone stock engine and save the cam and crank for results on an aspirated engine. . _________________ 2010 Bonneville record holder Type 2, 36hp
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MAMEDE Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 1:55 pm Post subject: Re: 1959 Vintage Speed Bus - Opinions? |
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The parts in the case!! |
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MAMEDE Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 5:55 am Post subject: Re: 1959 Vintage Speed Bus - Opinions? |
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Start engine!!
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