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ShuraVin Samba Member
Joined: November 11, 2017 Posts: 20 Location: Russia
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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 6:18 am Post subject: Guess what it is? |
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Zeitgeist 13 Samba Member
Joined: March 05, 2009 Posts: 12103 Location: Port Manteau
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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 6:23 am Post subject: Re: Guess what it is? |
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Heh...this should be good _________________ Casey--
'89 Bluestar ALH w/12mm Waldo pump, PP764 and GT2052
'01 Weekender --> full camper
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mikemtnbike Samba Member
Joined: March 26, 2015 Posts: 2780 Location: North Carolina
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bobbyblack Samba Member
Joined: May 21, 2015 Posts: 4332 Location: United States, Iowa
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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 6:35 am Post subject: Re: Guess what it is? |
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The inline 4 you are probably wanting folks to guess at IS interesting, for sure. I am more interested in the other end, where the 90 degree angle has to mate to the transmission, and what that transmission might look like as well. Show us the other side?
-bobby _________________ '87 Westy 'Flossie','86 Westy 'R1','86 tintop GL - Subi2.2 'J2','83.5 stock tintop L 'ZoomBus','74 Karmann Ghia, '63 Notch |
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dobryan Samba Member
Joined: March 24, 2006 Posts: 16473 Location: Brookeville, MD
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Sodo Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2007 Posts: 9517 Location: Western WA
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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 7:43 am Post subject: Re: Guess what it is? |
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That engine mount looks non-committal. _________________
'90 Westy EJ25, 2Peloquins, 3knobs, pressure-oiled GT mainshaft, filtered, cooled gearbox
'87 Tintop w 47k 53k, '12 SmallCar EJ25, cooled filtered gearbox
....KTMs, GasGas, SPOT mtb |
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Jake de Villiers Samba Member
Joined: October 24, 2007 Posts: 5911 Location: Tsawwassen, BC
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llilibel03 Samba Member
Joined: February 03, 2008 Posts: 767 Location: Redondo Beach California
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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 7:48 am Post subject: Re: Guess what it is? |
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I think the two wire ties give it an extra measure of security. _________________ 87 syncro tintop
90 gl tin top
85 westy 2.0 tiico automatic (present) |
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jberger Samba Member
Joined: November 17, 2003 Posts: 2476
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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 7:49 am Post subject: Re: Guess what it is? |
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Jake de Villiers wrote: |
An engine mount made by somebody who can't weld? |
Ouch... Hard to see but that looks like tig welded plate.. not just cut sections of tubing. Also Tig welded cast aluminum oil pan. I'd hazard a guess this new friend CAN weld.
J |
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bobbyblack Samba Member
Joined: May 21, 2015 Posts: 4332 Location: United States, Iowa
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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 7:59 am Post subject: Re: Guess what it is? |
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Sodo wrote: |
That engine mount looks non-committal. |
I had to giggle at that one. So, it looks as if the hangar is somewhat close to the center-line of the crank. I will wait to see how the other end is fastened before I get too excited, but the end we see has little/limited ability to hold the torque. Still want to see the business end of that, as I have not seen transverse install being feasible yet. _________________ '87 Westy 'Flossie','86 Westy 'R1','86 tintop GL - Subi2.2 'J2','83.5 stock tintop L 'ZoomBus','74 Karmann Ghia, '63 Notch |
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raoul mitgong Samba Member
Joined: July 05, 2009 Posts: 1338 Location: Denver, CO
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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:01 am Post subject: Re: Guess what it is? |
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Guess what this is? |
A Russian troll farm's attempt to infiltrate The Samba because a lot of us don't FaceBook?
Hahaahha. Hope you have a good sense of humor (or a thick skin). Love to hear more.
-d _________________ 84 Westy with a 2.1 (Groover)
86 Tintop Syncro (Crow)
86 Tintop Syncro to Westy project (Tom Servo)
91 Westy (Only the top 12 inches of this van (a burn victim)) |
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Sodo Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2007 Posts: 9517 Location: Western WA
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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:07 am Post subject: Re: Guess what it is? |
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jberger wrote: |
I'd hazard a guess this new friend CAN weld. |
Of course this feller can weld, he just ain't ready to commit.
The crankshaft elevation looks fairly high.
What we have here folks, is new member who's notafraidofit. Is TheSamba on on the rebound _________________
'90 Westy EJ25, 2Peloquins, 3knobs, pressure-oiled GT mainshaft, filtered, cooled gearbox
'87 Tintop w 47k 53k, '12 SmallCar EJ25, cooled filtered gearbox
....KTMs, GasGas, SPOT mtb
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joelsolomonson Samba Member
Joined: February 08, 2009 Posts: 56 Location: Oakland, CA
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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:09 am Post subject: Re: Guess what it is? |
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Show us the transmission! A shot from the deck lid would be fun too. |
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transanalog Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2011 Posts: 67 Location: New Orleans, Louisiana
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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:15 am Post subject: Re: Guess what it is? |
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Looks... interesting! Be prepared to post a ton of pics... inquiring half-minds want to know! _________________ Mike
New Orleans
1991 Vanagon Carat |
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tencentlife Samba Member
Joined: May 02, 2006 Posts: 10067 Location: Abiquiu, NM, USA
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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:50 am Post subject: Re: Guess what it is? |
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I've been waiting for someone to show off a front-engine transverse engine/driveline unit packed in the back of a van, it's always seemed to me to be so much more elegant an approach to conversion than cobbling different engines to the stock transaxle with all its limitations. How about five or six close-ratio gears that are designed for the engine's output characteristics? Sounds good to me. Now with this one I'm wondering if they did some real innovation and rolled the transaxle 180º forward to move the drive outputs to the front of the block, so the engine ends up in the van's engine bay instead of stuffed up against the sloping firewall, which would be required if you just stuffed a drive unit in without reorienting.
Looking forward to seeing the rest of it. _________________ Shop for unique Vanagon accessories at the Vanistan shop:
https://intrepidoverland.com/vanistan/
Please don't PM here, I will not reply.
Experience is kryptonite to doctrine. |
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E1 Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2013 Posts: 6375 Location: Westfalia, Earth
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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:15 am Post subject: Re: Guess what it is? |
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Oft non-committal, I'm absolutely convinced what we're seeing is a photo. _________________ ‘84 Westy, 2.1L with Digijet, 5.43 R+P, GT Gears
"Adding power makes you faster on the straights.
Subtracting weight makes you faster everywhere."
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Sodo Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2007 Posts: 9517 Location: Western WA
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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:29 am Post subject: Re: Guess what it is? |
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Great to see someone breaking the mold.
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How about five or six close-ratio gears that are designed for the engine's output characteristics..... |
....from a 5,000 lb donor. A donor that's plentiful and often slightly totalled in the USA, reliable, and unwanted.
If wishes were horses. _________________
'90 Westy EJ25, 2Peloquins, 3knobs, pressure-oiled GT mainshaft, filtered, cooled gearbox
'87 Tintop w 47k 53k, '12 SmallCar EJ25, cooled filtered gearbox
....KTMs, GasGas, SPOT mtb |
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ShuraVin Samba Member
Joined: November 11, 2017 Posts: 20 Location: Russia
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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 10:27 am Post subject: Re: Guess what it is? |
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Renault F3r Engine
Honda Accord 1994 N2S4 transmission.
The transmission rotates in the opposite direction.
The body was not cut.
The motor does not protrude into the cabin
The car moves confidently. Mileage 200 km.
Engine mounts are temporary. Later they will be welded to the body.
Ahead of testing the units with possible completion.
Aesthetic part of the project after the tests. Tests of 2000-3000 km.
Sorry for my english.
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Vanagon Nut Samba Member
Joined: February 08, 2008 Posts: 10347 Location: Sunshine Coast B.C.
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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 10:30 am Post subject: Re: Guess what it is? |
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I'm also very curious of the transmission used. Maybe someone found a viable way to use a Mk3 tranny? Heck. I'd be even MORE curious to see the shift linkage!
That bolt on bracket at the pulley end of engine is very clever. To remove the engine, it's probably much easier to unbolt that than stuff a hand and wrench up to get at the fasteners between block and mount.
I'd guess this is they type of mount they used. Cabriolet 2.0 ABA uses this IIRC
I just saw the OP's post. I stand corrected! _________________ 1981 Westy DIY 15º ABA
1988 West DIY 50º ABA
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bobbyblack Samba Member
Joined: May 21, 2015 Posts: 4332 Location: United States, Iowa
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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 10:49 am Post subject: Re: Guess what it is? |
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F3R 2.0 L (1,965 cc or 120 in3), B x S: 82 by 93.0 millimetres (3.23 in × 3.66 in).
1987– Renault Alliance GTA Special F3R Variant of F3N for 1987 Spec USA GTA only.
F3R 2.0 L (1,998 cc or 122 in3), B x S: 82.7 by 93.0 millimetres (3.26 in × 3.66 in).
1992–1996 Volvo 440/460, Volvo 480
1994–2001 Renault Laguna I
1996– Renault Espace
1996– Renault Mégane
1998– Moskvitch 214145 “Svyatogor” (Russia only)
Cool! Article mentioned there was an iteration that added a turbo. That looks do-able from the first posted pic..
Watch that coolant hose passing under the cut-off section of bulkhead at the front of the engine bay. That would turn a good day to bad if it chaffed through.
Love this build direction!
-bobby _________________ '87 Westy 'Flossie','86 Westy 'R1','86 tintop GL - Subi2.2 'J2','83.5 stock tintop L 'ZoomBus','74 Karmann Ghia, '63 Notch |
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