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milfredo Samba Member
Joined: July 18, 2001 Posts: 55
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Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 2:50 pm Post subject: Dimmer switch works but can not flash headlights lights |
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71 Bay, I have all all electrics working, apart from the headlight flashers. There is no bodging, all bad wires and connectors replaced with correct wires.
I found a disconnected live wire in my indicator stalk and soldered it back in place without removing the stalk. This fixed the dimmer switch so I can engage the relay and switch between headlights and main beam with the ignition and headlights on. I am unable to make it flash though and from the wiring diagram, it all looks to be the same wiring.
What am I missing, is there something funky to check in the indicator stalk/ switch?
Cheers,
Will |
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skills@eurocarsplus Samba Peckerhead
Joined: January 01, 2007 Posts: 16801 Location: sticksville, ct.
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Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 3:04 pm Post subject: Re: Dimmer switch works but can not flash headlights lights |
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what do you mean "flash"?
if you mean toggle the headlights from high to low 1) they need to be on and 2) the relay has to do a full cycle to change over from high to low
in the early buses you could never "flash" the high beams with the headlights off if thats what you mean _________________
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51057 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 3:11 pm Post subject: Re: Dimmer switch works but can not flash headlights lights |
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skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
in the early buses you could never "flash" the high beams with the headlights off if thats what you mean |
In Europe you could, not on North American models.
Milfredo, have a look at your relay for a #30 terminal, NA buses don't have them, but all the new relays sold lately do. That has to have a red wire in the fuse box supplied by constant battery power if you want to flash with the lights turned off. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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KTPhil Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2006 Posts: 33875 Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 3:17 pm Post subject: Re: Dimmer switch works but can not flash headlights lights |
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busdaddy wrote: |
skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
in the early buses you could never "flash" the high beams with the headlights off if thats what you mean |
In Europe you could, not on North American models.
Milfredo, have a look at your relay for a #30 terminal, NA buses don't have them, but all the new relays sold lately do. That has to have a red wire in the fuse box supplied by constant battery power if you want to flash with the lights turned off. |
Yes. Some are jumpered to 30 from another (56?) terminal... clip it, and run a dedicated 30 wire of adequate gauge to run both L+R through it.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=341307 |
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milfredo Samba Member
Joined: July 18, 2001 Posts: 55
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Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 3:49 pm Post subject: Re: Dimmer switch works but can not flash headlights lights |
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This is a California bus so probably has never had them. There are only 5 connections on the relay (from memory); lights, lights, power from headlight switch and switched earth from indicator stalk. |
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milfredo Samba Member
Joined: July 18, 2001 Posts: 55
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Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 3:51 pm Post subject: Re: Dimmer switch works but can not flash headlights lights |
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KTPhil wrote: |
busdaddy wrote: |
skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
in the early buses you could never "flash" the high beams with the headlights off if thats what you mean |
In Europe you could, not on North American models.
Milfredo, have a look at your relay for a #30 terminal, NA buses don't have them, but all the new relays sold lately do. That has to have a red wire in the fuse box supplied by constant battery power if you want to flash with the lights turned off. |
Yes. Some are jumpered to 30 from another (56?) terminal... clip it, and run a dedicated 30 wire of adequate gauge to run both L+R through it.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=341307 |
I’ll try this tomorrow as I’d like to be able to flag as it’s invaluable in the uk in an old motor. |
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milfredo Samba Member
Joined: July 18, 2001 Posts: 55
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Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 3:57 pm Post subject: Re: Dimmer switch works but can not flash headlights lights |
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Thanks everyone |
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51057 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 5:13 pm Post subject: Re: Dimmer switch works but can not flash headlights lights |
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KTPhil wrote: |
busdaddy wrote: |
skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
in the early buses you could never "flash" the high beams with the headlights off if thats what you mean |
In Europe you could, not on North American models.
Milfredo, have a look at your relay for a #30 terminal, NA buses don't have them, but all the new relays sold lately do. That has to have a red wire in the fuse box supplied by constant battery power if you want to flash with the lights turned off. |
Yes. Some are jumpered to 30 from another (56?) terminal... clip it, and run a dedicated 30 wire of adequate gauge to run both L+R through it.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=341307 |
That'll make it work when the lights are turned on, but for real passing lights you need a dedicated full time power source for #30 instead of the jumper to #56.
The OP will likely need a relay with a #30 terminal as well, sounds like his is the older NA only version. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 5:23 pm Post subject: Re: Dimmer switch works but can not flash headlights lights |
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there are two relays available for late bays. If you buy the one that flashes, and put in a jumper on it, the stalk will flash the headlights on a late bay. I have that in my 77. But you must have the correct relay or you will blow fuses, or worse. I think the Champagne Edition buses had that feature. If you search you can find the part number and jumper placement. It works to flash with the lights turned off. _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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milfredo Samba Member
Joined: July 18, 2001 Posts: 55
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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2022 12:19 am Post subject: Re: Dimmer switch works but can not flash headlights lights |
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SGKent wrote: |
there are two relays available for late bays. If you buy the one that flashes, and put in a jumper on it, the stalk will flash the headlights on a late bay. I have that in my 77. But you must have the correct relay or you will blow fuses, or worse. I think the Champagne Edition buses had that feature. If you search you can find the part number and jumper placement. It works to flash with the lights turned off. |
Great info, thanks. |
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