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skills@eurocarsplus
Samba Peckerhead
Joined: January 01, 2007
Posts: 16883
Location: sticksville, ct.
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 Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 6:57 am Post subject: Re: Help KentPS get back on the road? |
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| sounds to me like you have a valve moving...if it was tight and you have to loosen it to get .006, classic sign of it starting to stretch, or the seat has come loose after sinking into the head....I would suspect the next step is Subie swap if you keep driving it |
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naaaa....he seems pretty hard core. I only push the conversions on those who want a little less 'adventure' on their vacations
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aerosurfer
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Joined: March 25, 2012
Posts: 1602
Location: Indianapolis, IN
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 7:32 am Post subject: Re: Help KentPS get back on the road? |
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| williamM wrote: |
 Completely missed your thread-- You know I have heads and a bore scope- right???- Split rail is $20. a night- I even have the "Kombi crew" motor if you need a loaner- it's set up for FI right now just needs adjusters (cheap china foot ones came apart)- do your rebuild at your leisure. |
Thats a hell of an offer
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Clatter
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Joined: September 24, 2003
Posts: 7549
Location: Santa Cruz
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 7:50 am Post subject: Re: Help KentPS get back on the road? |
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| rusty busty wrote: |
Something like this would give you ~5mm, and could maybe pop back in for a while. Hope you make it home.
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^^^^^This^^^^^
Would have to comb through the build thread again,
But,
IIRC,
These are just some random, unknown, used heads, right?
That is playing Russian roulette... Your number will come up eventually.
Type 4 buses are known for dropping valve seats.
It's, like,
What they do..
Time for the old "out and apart"..
Now that you have sorted out the FI,
And can keep your mixture under control,
Go ahead and wince, look away, close your eyes, and click "Buy Now".
It's only money.. They'll print more.
https://type4store.com/cylinder-heads/camper-special.html
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TomWesty
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Joined: November 23, 2007
Posts: 3482
Location: Wyoming,USA
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 8:55 am Post subject: Re: Help KentPS get back on the road? |
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| rusty busty wrote: |
Something like this would give you ~5mm, and could maybe pop back in for a while. Hope you make it home. I made it home about 1500km when it happened to me. Probably wouldn't try that again though.
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Exactly what I was imagining when I made my worthless diagnosis. I hope it’s not that......
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CarlosZ
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Joined: April 23, 2016
Posts: 319
Location: Los Angeles
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 11:15 am Post subject: Re: Help KentPS get back on the road? |
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| Nice to see you back on the road. Will you make it to the Prado? |
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SGKent 
Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007
Posts: 41031
Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 11:23 am Post subject: Re: Help KentPS get back on the road? |
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Ya know - as Clatter said, it is Russian Roulette at this time with the engine but it makes good reading. When they did the movie Little Miss Sunshine they chose for the bus to have clutch problems - it would have been more appropriate to have both starter and a dropped valve seat, certainly lots more opportunity to keep everyone waiting to see what the outcome was going to be like here... I hope this ends well.
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Tcash
Samba Member
Joined: July 20, 2011
Posts: 12844
Location: San Jose, California, USA
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 12:08 pm Post subject: Re: Help KentPS get back on the road? |
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Pull the
Rockers
Pushrods
Lifters
FI plug
Run it |
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SGKent
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Joined: October 30, 2007
Posts: 41031
Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 12:24 pm Post subject: Re: Help KentPS get back on the road? |
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| Tcash wrote: |
Pull the
Rockers
Pushrods
Lifters
FI plug
Run it |
lifters have oil pressure to them. Even with just the pushrod out the lifters can pop out and then oil flows right into the sump.
One would need an alternate rocker that has a wind up spring in it and an arm for the pushrod only. The spring would hold the lifter down. Nothing someone could engineer with odds and ends lying around.
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williamM
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Joined: August 07, 2008
Posts: 4333
Location: southwest Arizona
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 4:02 pm Post subject: Re: Help KentPS get back on the road? |
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Kent made it to Quartzsite He just got the spark plug out --AND-- looks like some metallic welded to the spark plug- now going for the bore scope-
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williamM
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Joined: August 07, 2008
Posts: 4333
Location: southwest Arizona
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 4:20 pm Post subject: Re: Help KentPS get back on the road? |
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| williamM wrote: |
| Kent made it to Quartzsite He just got the spark plug out --AND-- looks like some metallic welded to the spark plug- now going for the bore scope- |
jury is back- its the valve seat- scope showed metal flowing from round the seat-
but only 150 miles or so.
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KentABQ
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Joined: September 11, 2016
Posts: 2406
Location: Albuquerque NM
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 6:22 pm Post subject: Re: Help KentPS get back on the road? |
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WilliamM helped me with identifying the problem with his borescope.
Yup, the valve seat... isn't.
Luckily, Bill has a 1700 head he's going to sell me. And rather than continuing tempting fate (and providing endless entertainment for my fellow Sambanistas), I'll be towing Chloe from Quartzite back to Palm Springs. Then I can take my time and replace the head along with a few other things I didn't do when I had it out last time.
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1976 Riviera, 1.8l FI chrome yellow VAN - "Chloe"
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Cars of today are so bland in comparison. It's like driving a celebration!" ---WildIdea
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Tcash
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Joined: July 20, 2011
Posts: 12844
Location: San Jose, California, USA
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 7:28 pm Post subject: Re: Help KentPS get back on the road? |
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Sorry to hear that. The good news is that you caught it and it did not drop the valve head into the cylinder.
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TomWesty
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Joined: November 23, 2007
Posts: 3482
Location: Wyoming,USA
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 7:43 pm Post subject: Re: Help KentPS get back on the road? |
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Glad you have most of your engine intact. Best of luck!
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Xevin
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Joined: January 08, 2014
Posts: 7635
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 7:45 pm Post subject: Re: Help KentPS get back on the road? |
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Well hell. I wanted more fun time pictures. I know a guy you could FaceTime with and rebuild that engine in like 3 hours time on top of a trash can 
https://www.airschooled.com/
If Robbie isn’t available maybe call Richard Dean Anderson. He’s got nothing going on and lots of time.
Link
Godspeed brother.
(williamM is awesome)
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| Damn that Xevin... |
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| My God! Xevin and I 100% agree |
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williamM
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Joined: August 07, 2008
Posts: 4333
Location: southwest Arizona
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 8:11 pm Post subject: Re: Help KentPS get back on the road? |
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All my trash cans have motors on them already- (to catch the oil.)
We had "silly Al's" pizza then spent an hour checking cylinder heads in 3 locations before the last came up under 4"- so just got in a batch of 9mm guides,and valves, so may be able to get the head sorted before Kent has to go on Mon. He has rented a u-haul truck n trailer and can have it home in no time no-risk.
Wait till you see that seat- can't believe it made almost 300 miles.
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Abscate
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Joined: October 05, 2014
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Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 9:20 pm Post subject: Re: Help KentPS get back on the road? |
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Glad You caught this before you Grenaded a good Type IV case
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KentABQ
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Joined: September 11, 2016
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Location: Albuquerque NM
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 9:46 pm Post subject: Re: Help KentPS get back on the road? |
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Okay, here's a shot of what the borescope revealed...
Yup, I got lucky to make it this far. So that's why I decided to Uhaul it home on Monday.
Btw... A borescope is a very cool and useful tool. I'm going to get one for work and for wrenching. Amazon has some that transmit the image via wifi to your iPhone. Great idea.
I'm spending the night in Chloe in Quartzite. It's about 80* with a gentle breeze. Perfect for sleeping.
G'night all. And thanks for everyone's input and advice. I do listen...sometimes.
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1976 Riviera, 1.8l FI chrome yellow VAN - "Chloe"
"I must say, how can you be in a bad mood driving this vehicle full of vibrant color.
Cars of today are so bland in comparison. It's like driving a celebration!" ---WildIdea
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cmonSTART
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Joined: July 15, 2014
Posts: 1915
Location: NH
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| Posted: Sun May 20, 2018 4:49 am Post subject: Re: Help KentPS get back on the road? |
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Ouch, that's ugly!!
I have a wifi borescope and use it quite often for a lot of things. It's a very very useful tool and I like that I can sync it to both my phone and larger tablet. Having the larger image sometimes makes it easier to see what's going on - certainly a lot easier than a conventional scope.
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wcfvw69
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Joined: June 10, 2004
Posts: 13389
Location: Arizona
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| Posted: Sun May 20, 2018 6:02 am Post subject: Re: Help KentPS get back on the road? |
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Glad you found the issue!
Remind us. How many miles on that head? I "think" you just rebuild the engine?
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williamM
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Location: southwest Arizona
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| Posted: Sun May 20, 2018 6:47 am Post subject: Re: Help KentPS get back on the road? |
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No- --Robbie put FI on it back a few summers ago (maybe last summer). I ran good - but had a sticky valve for a short while.-so was probably a long tooth original. will know more when Kent gets the head off- Possibility time to go 2.0 depending on the condition of the piston crown.
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