Need advice on short block rebuild kit

[sb001]

I stumbled on this short block kit here on the classifieds:

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1405521

That seems like a good deal, but I'm assuming no warranty- so I am wondering if anyone knows any vendors who offer similar kits with a warranty for around the same price? Thx
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1969 autostick sedan, family owned since new
1600 SP engine
Solex 30 PICT 3 carburetor
Bosch 113905205AE autostick distributor

[Multi69s]

SB,

Are there no good VW machinist in your area? Personally, I would rather have the original parts reworked, the go with unknown quality. It may come with an Empi crank like this.

http://www.ebuggies.com/69mm-Direct-Drilled-Cast-C...vSEALw_wcB

Notice that this crank is cast not forged like the OEM. Granted, there are thousands of engines running cast cranks, but you don't know the crank's condition unless you have it magnafluxed. A friend wanted to do a budget rebuild (against my advice), when the crank arrived, the box rattled from the pieces inside.
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[theKbStockpiler]

For a 1600 I would look into remanufactued parts through a VW machine shop like DPR or somebody. I had factory rods rebuilt at a local non vw machinist and just the small ends of the rods were $150.00

http://dprmachine.com/products/crankshafts-type-i/
http://dprmachine.com/products/vw-connecting-rods/
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[Zundfolge1432]

I would hold off buying anything until all your core parts have been evaluated.

[FeelthySanchez]

sb,
No value there, as 95% of the new parts that Carter's peddles are chy-knees.
How I found-out: about 3yrs ago, this gent was setup for 'Mail order only' in a tiny industrial suite about 2 miles away from my home. Never noted any foot traffic at the storefront, but he did have some decent feedback here on TS & elsewhere.
Except for a few email exchanges, I never dealt w/ him - but in all fairness, his prices were average & he did answer all my ? regarding country-of-origin, eventually admitting the "c" word.
I soon tuned-out & then noticed that he had moved (now appears to be operating from Tustin, CA).
These 2 posts are by him, aka 'gerald canter': https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/search.php?search_author=gerald+canter
Another unflattering thread: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=577274
Bottom line is you could very likely do better, & keep it much closer to home. One jobber to avoid however: GEX (Booneville, AR).
So ...... perhaps try Roy (MOFOCO) - he's closer than Calif & sports a great reputation.
Fair warning, G' luck & note his prices start @ $250 without a crank: http://www.mofoco.com/category/Engine_Kits/c188

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[mark tucker]

check the case out first.if it's good then get a new 74mm stroke crank!! and the rest of what you need.

[Glenn]

He doesn't say if the crank is cast or forged... so assume cast.
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[sb001]

My go to place is bughaus in Tulsa, there are no reputable VW shops in Arkansas anymore. GEX is an hour away, won't be going there.
Anyways, even bughaus states on their website that they sell cast cranks as forged are either non-available new anymore or too expensive to stock. That does NOT mean that bughaus cannot get me a forged crank, or (as zundfolge stated above) that my crank I got with this pile of parts cannot be salvaged, I'm just kicking tires around while waiting to see if it can. TBH I don't even know if that sucker is forged or cast did not look...
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1969 autostick sedan, family owned since new
1600 SP engine
Solex 30 PICT 3 carburetor
Bosch 113905205AE autostick distributor

[sb001]

[Glenn]

Do yourself a favor and just buy a new CB cw forged crank and flywheel. A new stock cam and lifters. Have a local machine shop check the case and rebuild the rods. And pickup the rest of the parts. Yes, you'll spend more but have a much better running engine.

Also the "kit" doesn't include a new oil pump... it should.
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[bluebus86]

Id not buy bearings until I have determined the case bore diameter. if case is align bored, standard bearing wont fit right. As for warrantee, it is difficult to get a warrantee on parts like this other than they are dimensionally as stated or for damage prior to you assembling them, you should be able to return parts that dont fit or are damaged as received. , unless all sales are final or such. But once ran in a motor, if say a cam goes flat, it would be difficult to get that covered as the seller has no control on how you assembled it, broke it in, etc.... Usually longer term warrantee if any would be on an assembled engine that the builder has broken in already . or the warrantee from a builder may require that the builder take apart the engine to determine cause of failure.

Good luck my friend, Bug On!
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