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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2018 9:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Battery powered lawn mower Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2018 10:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Battery powered lawn mower Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2018 6:36 am    Post subject: Re: Battery powered lawn mower Reply with quote

I am seriously looking at these battery powered mowers when my gas mowers finally fall apart. Mine typically rust away long before the engines die.

Ryobi makes a rider that they say can mow about an acre on one charge. That would work for my situation. But, I just wonder how they will handle hitting the occasional cypress knee or tree root lurking in the grass?
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2018 11:58 am    Post subject: Re: Battery powered lawn mower Reply with quote

I can't speak for any other mower, but my Kobalt wouldn't last long if that were the case. It's just not as strong/sturdy/etc. as the gas powered ones.
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2018 5:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Battery powered lawn mower Reply with quote

I personally know someone who's home burned and the fire marshall pointed at the lith-ion battery/charger sitting on a bench still plugged in. Have read in the local rag paper about 2 more similar fires. Are we just lucky around here, or has anybody else heard of similar stories?
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2018 7:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Battery powered lawn mower Reply with quote

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I personally know someone who's home burned and the fire marshall pointed at the nicad battery/charger sitting on a bench still plugged in. Have read in the local rag paper about 2 more similar fires. Are we just lucky around here, or has anybody else heard of similar stories?


Does anyone use NiCad anymore? I thought LiOn was all the rage. Seriously. All of my tools use Lithium Ion batteries, and so does nearly everything on the shelf at the hardware store.
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2018 5:04 am    Post subject: Re: Battery powered lawn mower Reply with quote

Dang, open mouth-insert foot. Meant lith-ion
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2018 6:49 am    Post subject: Re: Battery powered lawn mower Reply with quote

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Does anyone use NiCad anymore? I thought LiOn was all the rage. Seriously. All of my tools use Lithium Ion batteries, and so does nearly everything on the shelf at the hardware store.

Although the Milwaukee 18 volt lithium cordless drill I got as gift for 40 year service award is TONS better than my older Sears 19.2 volt NiCad system, I still use the Sears system too. Why? because I also have a stubby drill and a flashlight that fits the Sears batteries.

The Sears drills keyless chucks are just terrible, looks like Jacobs patent was circumvented to save $$$, keep loosening. My NiCad batteries are a few years old and do not hold a charge too many hours, so I keep a battery in the charger at both homes; those batteries are expensive too. The Milwaukee chuck is tons better, and its lithium batteries much better technology.
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2018 7:23 am    Post subject: Re: Battery powered lawn mower Reply with quote

Yeah, after having three LIon batteries pop & one ignite, I won't allow one of those things to sit on a charger in the house or garage unattended.

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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2018 7:45 am    Post subject: Re: Battery powered lawn mower Reply with quote

On my Kobalt the battery cannot be charged if it is too warm. Found that out yesterday when after mowing the grass I put the battery on the charger and it would not charge. I noticed the sticker showing that it would not charge if the battery was too warm. I don't leave my batteries on charge unattended or leave them in the cradle. I take them out after charging. I also am now keeping them in a cooler place rather than my shop which gets very hot during the day. I'm hoping this will prolong the life of the batteries
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2018 12:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Battery powered lawn mower Reply with quote

there was a local shop that burnt up due to a battery explosion of some sort. it happened when power was restored after a storm.
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2018 7:51 am    Post subject: Re: Battery powered lawn mower Reply with quote

The easy solution is to stop leaving fuel in the tank over winter.
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2018 12:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Battery powered lawn mower Reply with quote

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I do realize that batteries don't last forever but if I get five years out of the mower (not counting the blade) and batteries, I'll be happy. Even if I have to replace the battery before then.
my electrick riding mower is a 2015 model year I think....already needs battery..2 years ago..... Shocked thats expensive lawn mowing. ( it takes 3 big 75 amperhour batterys)
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2018 6:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Battery powered lawn mower Reply with quote

The upside to NiCad is that they can be run stone dead, left that way for months and still be usable. They also do not have a habit of self igniting. LiPo and Lithium Ion on the other hand are ruined if discharged below a given voltage and do self destruct/auto ignite if not treated right. They also take regular maintenance when not in use to keep them in good working order.
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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2018 7:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Battery powered lawn mower Reply with quote

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The easy solution is to stop leaving fuel in the tank over winter.


The fuel tank isn't the issue generally, it is the carb float bowl and the tiny passages in the carb.

Leaving the carb dry is one option, but that can lead to dried and shrunken gaskets, and leaks.

Treating the fuel with a preservative is the other option, along with leaving that treated fuel in the carb and tank. This is my usual plan of action, though it doesn't always work. A good example is my weed wacker, which was tough to start this spring and will only run on full choke. Ran that carb dry as a bone last fall and now I need to tear it apart for repair/replacement. This is the second carb on that POS.
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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2018 8:11 am    Post subject: Re: Battery powered lawn mower Reply with quote

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The easy solution is to stop leaving fuel in the tank over winter.


The fuel tank isn't the issue generally, it is the carb float bowl and the tiny passages in the carb.

Leaving the carb dry is one option, but that can lead to dried and shrunken gaskets, and leaks.

Treating the fuel with a preservative is the other option, along with leaving that treated fuel in the carb and tank. This is my usual plan of action, though it doesn't always work. A good example is my weed wacker, which was tough to start this spring and will only run on full choke. Ran that carb dry as a bone last fall and now I need to tear it apart for repair/replacement. This is the second carb on that POS.


Ahh, I was indicating stale fuel as the issue. Killls the air and machines.
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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2018 9:05 am    Post subject: Re: Battery powered lawn mower Reply with quote

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The easy solution is to stop leaving fuel in the tank over winter.


The fuel tank isn't the issue generally, it is the carb float bowl and the tiny passages in the carb.

Leaving the carb dry is one option, but that can lead to dried and shrunken gaskets, and leaks.

Treating the fuel with a preservative is the other option, along with leaving that treated fuel in the carb and tank. This is my usual plan of action, though it doesn't always work. A good example is my weed wacker, which was tough to start this spring and will only run on full choke. Ran that carb dry as a bone last fall and now I need to tear it apart for repair/replacement. This is the second carb on that POS.


Ahh, I was indicating stale fuel as the issue. Killls the air and machines.


Good point, and very true. Old fuel makes new engines run poorly, if at all.
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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2018 5:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Battery powered lawn mower Reply with quote

... when I was a kid - back in the 50s, my dad had a big, heavy Craftsman electric reel mower... he never bought gas... lasted over 20 years and when it died, he got a lawn service... still has one.
I mow 3 acres (of our 10) every week and love it... I have 3 Husqvarna riders, kinda' like having 7 VWs and 4 walkers - one of anything, won't do..
. Your battery mower sounds wonderful for a little yard... if we ever get a place on a small lot, a battery mower will work.
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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2018 5:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Battery powered lawn mower Reply with quote

Interesting read!

I don't have any lawn to mow anymore thank goodness! I do have many hedges. I've used electric hedge trimmers and got tired of extension cords. I bought a 2 stroke gas powered hedge trimmer. Pain in the butt, hard starting, fuel runs, etc.

The engine in my last gas 2 stroke hedge trimmer through a rod and locked solid. I said screw it and bought this.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Ryobi-24-in-40-Volt-Li.../203763427

I then bought the blower that uses the same battery as well. 2 years in and I couldn't be happier. I figure I need them to last 3 years to meet the ROI I need.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 6:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Battery powered lawn mower Reply with quote

wcfvw69 wrote:
Interesting read!

I don't have any lawn to mow anymore thank goodness! I do have many hedges. I've used electric hedge trimmers and got tired of extension cords. I bought a 2 stroke gas powered hedge trimmer. Pain in the butt, hard starting, fuel runs, etc.

The engine in my last gas 2 stroke hedge trimmer through a rod and locked solid. I said screw it and bought this.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Ryobi-24-in-40-Volt-Li.../203763427

I then bought the blower that uses the same battery as well. 2 years in and I couldn't be happier. I figure I need them to last 3 years to meet the ROI I need.


... back in the 70s, i had a push lawn mower with a Tecumseh 2 stroke engine... lasted a decade and then I always bought used ones for $25 bux
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