'73 Super Salvage Project

[vamram]

Yep, just got back today from a 300+ mile trip back to VA from upstate NY. It was a great day for a trip, not too hot and cloudy, cruised along at 70mph w/almost no slow downs - except when cutting thru DC to pickup my son at Union Station. A big relief from the hot 90s and traffic I had on the way up to NY two weeks ago.

Oh - this - I broke down and ordered a set of stainless steel beauty rings from CIP1. Box was here when we arrived, I had to install them before I even finished unpacking the car. Man, I think they really make the VW chrome center caps pop!!

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'74 Super 9/16 - present, in refurb process.
'73 Super - 6/18 - Present - Daily Driver!
'75 Super Le Grande...waiting it's turn in line behind '74.
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[Tim Donahoe]

Looking good, Victor! The rings compliment the caps perfectly.

Tim
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[VW_Jimbo]

[kpf]

Wow, the rings look great and really finish off the black-wheel-with-chrome-center-caps look!
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1971 Super Beetle

[Buggeee]

I never saw rings on baja rims and these look fantastic on your car.
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[vamram]

Thank you gents! I definitely like them!
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'74 Super 9/16 - present, in refurb process.
'73 Super - 6/18 - Present - Daily Driver!
'75 Super Le Grande...waiting it's turn in line behind '74.
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[vamram]

So the headlight relay appears to have gone bad. It clicks when I trigger the column switch, but the lights are stuck on the brights, will not switch back to the low beams.

I have 2 relays in my stash - one a new/never used still-in-the-box Euromax w/what appears to be the correct part number - 111 941 583. The other is an original silver VW relay, but the number has a C at the end - 111 941 583c. Any one know if the VW one will work on my Super?
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'74 Super 9/16 - present, in refurb process.
'73 Super - 6/18 - Present - Daily Driver!
'75 Super Le Grande...waiting it's turn in line behind '74.
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Save the Supers!!

[Rome]

I used to have a "favorites" link to an electronic parts catalog (EPC) from VW; it had about 1100 pages. But when I had my 10-year old computer updated to a newer operating system last year, my favorites were wiped out.

Looking at VW's classic parts center in Wolfsburg, the base P/N shows this-
https://www.heritagepartscentre.com/us/111941583bq-headlight-relay-12-volt-5-terminal.html If your silver "C" relay has the same terminal numbers and wiring schematic as the one shown, and they also match the one now in your car, then it should work. Have you checked your relay's external connections, and cleaned them with a brass bristle brush and electronics spray cleaner? Tapped the relay housing very lightly with something metal like a socket extension, in case the sticking is simply a "stuck" internal energizing coil?

The above relay has description "headlight flash and dip beam relay". The "flash" would be the momentary high beam flash that is activated when you lightly pull back on the blinker stalk, without pulling back enough to lock in the "dip" feature which changes from high to low beam. I don't think that "flash" feature was on US-spec Beetles, though certainly was on the water cooled VWs from the mid '70's on. So it's possible that if the wires on your '73 match up to your "C" relay, you might gain a new headlamp feature with the "flash".

[vamram]

Problem solved for now. Rome, I tried the tap-tap-tap, no go. The relay clicks all day long but doesn't work. Next, I tried the matching part no. version Euromax. Barely audible click and...does not work at all. Head Lights don't even turn on w/the Euromax. Third time was a charm and all is good w/the C-version SW German relay.

I'm going to do an autopsy on these two. Curious to try to save the German one, and why the *new* Chinesium relay fails out-of-the-box.

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'74 Super 9/16 - present, in refurb process.
'73 Super - 6/18 - Present - Daily Driver!
'75 Super Le Grande...waiting it's turn in line behind '74.
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Save the Supers!!

[vamram]

Here's a better shot of the beauty rings on the car. 100% better than just black, imho. And it seems the general public likes the look too - comments/compliments about the car while driving around town are up like 300%!

Here are the rear lap belts I picked up yesterday for close to 'nuthin'. Springs are good, but cloth is pretty dirty. I'll have to figure out how to clean them w/out damaging the roller/return spring mechanism. Is opening that mechanism up a can of worms in terms of putting it back together....? Mehinks "Yep."

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'74 Super 9/16 - present, in refurb process.
'73 Super - 6/18 - Present - Daily Driver!
'75 Super Le Grande...waiting it's turn in line behind '74.
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Save the Supers!!

[Maddel]

I uncoiled them and locked the mechanism with some suitable clamp.
Then I soaked the belts over night in warm water with washing powder using a common household plastic pan.
Of course the roller/return spring mechanism stayed out of the pan...

[Xevin]

The beauty rings look terrific and that Union 76 antenna ball really brings it altogether
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[vamram]

[vamram]

I changed the oil and filter this morning then took the Super on a sprites 20 mile run. So I'm checking timing just 'cause. Advance port disconnected and plugged.

Setting max advance to 30* at 3k-3.1k RPM leaves the idle advance at 3.9*!! Doesn't seem right so I just set it to 7.5 at idle. Car runs great, starts easy even hot. 28.66 mpg during this weekend's driving.

Thoughts? Guidance? I don't want to accidentally destroy my engine. I'm using a bosch DVDA restored by one of the samba pros with a compufire ignition.
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'74 Super 9/16 - present, in refurb process.
'73 Super - 6/18 - Present - Daily Driver!
'75 Super Le Grande...waiting it's turn in line behind '74.
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Save the Supers!!

[Tim Donahoe]

Victor, I always set my timing at idle and set it to 7.5 BTDC. I have a Bosch SVDA, however, but yours is the same setting, I believe. After setting at idle, I check the full advance with my timing gun.

Tim
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[VW_Jimbo]

32 MAX! Anything further and you are gambling on those intake valves. Ask me how many times I saw an intake valve stuck to the piston. WAY TOO MANY TIMES! Leading cause I could best tell......set the timing past the 32 marker!

Set it at 32 max advance, and let the idle land where it wants to.

This is a great resource!
http://www.vw-resource.com/timing_advance.html
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There is never enough time to do it right the first time, but all the time necessary the second time!

[Lingwendil]

You can bend the stop tab for the advance mechanism inwards a little to limit the advance, but you may have to do it a couple times to get it just right. Easy to do just a little fiddly.
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73 super beetle thread http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=649622 Back on the Road!

Modify your Kadrons for SVDA http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=8115884#8115884

Cast iron VJU4BR8 SVDA reference thread- https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...mp;start=0

Need replacement filters for original Kadron aircleaners? WIX #42087 is a perfect fit, as is Napa Gold #2087!

[vamram]

[Lingwendil]

You can disassemble it, but it's fairly easy enough to get to from the little knockout window in the distributor body. Last couple times I did it I pulled the points plate assembly and vacuum can off, and reached in with a longnose pliers to do it. If you are careful and get comfortable enough you can do this with the distributor still in the car.

It's easiest to do on the car in my opinion from the top. Then you can throw it back together and hit it with a timing light to check it. You may need to do it a few times to get it's advance limit stopping just right. I've done it in various parking lots throughout the years while swapping springs out when I was younger
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73 super beetle thread http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=649622 Back on the Road!

Modify your Kadrons for SVDA http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=8115884#8115884

Cast iron VJU4BR8 SVDA reference thread- https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...mp;start=0

Need replacement filters for original Kadron aircleaners? WIX #42087 is a perfect fit, as is Napa Gold #2087!

[vamram]

I probably won't get to this until the weekend. I was going to check what the max advance is yesterday afternoon but unfortunately dropped and broke my timing light while untangling the wires.

Here's what the #1 plug looked like though after a 12 mile highway run at 65mph....looks pretty healthy to me. These have about 1k miles on them. Would they be showing signs of overheating if the dizzy was advancing too much?

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Give peace a chance - Stop Russian-Soviet Aggression!!

'74 Super 9/16 - present, in refurb process.
'73 Super - 6/18 - Present - Daily Driver!
'75 Super Le Grande...waiting it's turn in line behind '74.
Click to view image
Save the Supers!!