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1970Type2 Samba Member
Joined: January 02, 2016 Posts: 68 Location: San Marcos, Texas
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:52 am Post subject: Should I sell my 1970 bus? |
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I need help.
I am debating on whether or not to sell my 1970 VW CampMobile. I know that only I might be able to answer this but I am looking for input from others who may have been or are in a similar position.
I purchased my bus way back in 1997. It used to be my daily driver. I planted my first kiss on my girlfriend, now wife, in it back then. To be completely honest, I have made more than enough money since then to have completely restored it but I haven't. It still has the ugly 2-tone Tijuana paint job that's all faded. It still has torn door seals. Other than that, it's in very good mechanical condition. I just recently sank about $4,000 into him. I really think that I have just lost interest but it holds a lot of memories for me.
I am married and my wife keeps giving me the ultimatum to either sell or restore it and drive it. Just prior to me putting money into him recently, he sat in my garage for about 2 years without me even touching it.
I think that I'm at a stage/age in my life where I hate working on cars now and I don't have much time. I am now that guy that pays everyone to do things that I don't have the time to do himself.
I make enough money to where the financial gain is attractive but not necessary. It would allow me to replace an aging vehicle with over 100,000 miles on it. My wife thinks that I hang onto things too long and develop an attachment to objects.
Anyways, any thoughts? Has anyone else been in my position where maybe you owned your VW prior to marriage and now things have changed for you? _________________ 1970 VW Bus CampMobile Weekender edition. owned since 1996. |
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KentABQ Samba Member
Joined: September 11, 2016 Posts: 2406 Location: Albuquerque NM
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:13 pm Post subject: Re: Should I sell my 1970 bus? |
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You received permission from your wife to restore it??
Not only is the bus a keeper, but she is too! _________________ -Kent-
1976 Riviera, 1.8l FI chrome yellow VAN - "Chloe"
"I must say, how can you be in a bad mood driving this vehicle full of vibrant color.
Cars of today are so bland in comparison. It's like driving a celebration!" ---WildIdea
Bus ownership via emoticons:
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Angus II Samba Member
Joined: June 01, 2016 Posts: 708 Location: Mammoth Lakes Ca. 93546
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:45 pm Post subject: Re: Should I sell my 1970 bus? |
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Hello,
I like the way you think Kent...
Well, to the question on to sell or not, that is something you have to figure out.
It's bought and paid for, just use it as is. Maybe spring for some new paint and seals to make it feel fresh again. Take the little lady camping.... start a family in it.
If you have someone do all the work to "restore" it, then, there goes any real financial gain, you'll just be getting your money back. Then again, you can sell it to the next starry eyed buyer. That's your call.
If you have the means, just keep it. But use it, make it a family thing. |
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 2:05 pm Post subject: Re: Should I sell my 1970 bus? |
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There will come a day when you want to take it back out again and find a back road. It happens to all bus owners and it is a given. That said parts are getting harder to find and one day not far in the future there will be more buses needing attention then there are parts or mechanics and machine shops. Banks don't finance them and that holds the price down. To me it would all come down to storage. If you can keep it and your other cars in a garage ready to hop in and drive I say go for it. If you can't then sell it and let someone else have the experience. It will need to be driven a couple times a month just to keep the battery charged. It will need washing and fuel used or it will go bad. You don't want to let it sit 10 years then look for parts and have to deal with dead batteries, flat tires, cobwebs, mice getting into it etc. Either fix it up until you are comfortable with it now or move on, your wife is accurate on that part. Many of us have a bus that we only use occasionally. There is no sin in that either. _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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hazetguy Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2001 Posts: 10773 Location: iT StiNgeD iTseLf tO dEAd
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 2:21 pm Post subject: Re: Should I sell my 1970 bus? |
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sell it.
buy a nice GMC Safari.
spend the leftover $10K+ on something fun.
don't look back. _________________ thebucket: I invested in hoodride, now DBD won't return my call?
hazetguy: invested?
thebucket: Yeah Haze, its where people put money into a company in hopes of a return on their money |
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78BusGA Samba Member
Joined: February 01, 2017 Posts: 315 Location: Buford, Georgia
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 2:52 pm Post subject: Re: Should I sell my 1970 bus? |
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My question to you is, What would be the factors keeping you from restoring/remaking it in your vision? Money? Time? Ideas? Labor?
The memories and joy you've had in it already weigh heavily on your heart to want to keep it. With the help and generosity in this forum and other places online, there should be little holding you back from rolling it out, putting some time and passion into it, and having a great drive in it with you and your wife.
Pick your favorite color to put on it for paint, get a little help with the seals, button it up and make it yours! _________________ Few will understand the passion and majesty, among the nuts and grease.
Tom H.
My '74 Super 1303 thread - https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=764902&start=60
My '78 Kombi Bus thread - https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=769385&highlight=
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timvw7476 Samba Member
Joined: June 03, 2013 Posts: 2205 Location: seattle
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 2:55 pm Post subject: Re: Should I sell my 1970 bus? |
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recently sank $4k into it...
haven't touched it in two years....I'm getting mixed messages here,
flip a coin like that killer in No Country For Old Men. lol. |
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Mispeld Samba Member
Joined: April 29, 2018 Posts: 355 Location: Jacksonville - Coastal NC
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 3:24 pm Post subject: Re: Should I sell my 1970 bus? |
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If you sell it, you'll miss it. If you don't sell it, you'll always be thinking of selling it.
I sold my 72 Cutlass after 14 years. Same story. Needed work and i lost interest. Im still looking back and that was a few years ago. _________________ Tom
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aeromech Samba Member
Joined: January 24, 2006 Posts: 16970 Location: San Diego, California
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 3:28 pm Post subject: Re: Should I sell my 1970 bus? |
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First there’s some logistical issues to consider.
1). Can I find someone near me to do the work
2). How much will they charge
3). Will I be happy afterwards and start driving the bus again?
Then, if you don’t have close access to body and paint, parts, mechanic, where could you send it and feel secure that this person would be honest and do a good job? Is it too far away to be worthwhile?
Might it be better to just cut the cord and find a new owner who will have the enthusiasm to get the bus back in shape?
Finally,
As we go through life there are special times we experience. These times are limited and the sweet spot comes, goes, and we move onto something else.
Recognizing that a change is needed is tough. A few years ago I realized that my life would be better by selling my boat and then buying my wife a brand new car to drive. Best decision I’ve made in a while. I do t miss the boat and love the new car. _________________ Lead Mechanic: San Diego Air and Space Museum
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skills@eurocarsplus Samba Peckerhead
Joined: January 01, 2007 Posts: 16879 Location: sticksville, ct.
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:04 pm Post subject: Re: Should I sell my 1970 bus? |
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what makes you think if it's restored you'd use it more? if you didn't have "time" in 21 years to address it's issues, what makes you think you'd have time to enjoy it?
sell it. when you're ready buy a restored one from a reputable seller/restorer, use it for a year or 2 then sell it again.
I can't tell you how much pipe I laid in my first bus. sold it because the girl I was dating at the time was more fun to ride than the bus was, and she wasn't in to the bus. do I miss it? not really.
like the girl, all buses are the same. they all look like sisters when you lift the skirt. sell it. let someone else have the same memory of getting some stanky for their hang lo _________________
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my reason for switching to subaru is my german car was turning chinese so i said fuck it and went japanese....... |
Jake Raby wrote: |
Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public. |
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Also the fact that people are agreeing with Skills, it's a turn of events for samba history |
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hazetguy Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2001 Posts: 10773 Location: iT StiNgeD iTseLf tO dEAd
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 5:04 pm Post subject: Re: Should I sell my 1970 bus? |
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besides, you can still do the nasty in a GMC Safari. and have actual, real heat. and air conditioning. and go faster than 70......uphill. and wipers and defrost worth a crap. and have $10K + left over after you sell your bus. and you can still have that sliding door 'whoomp'. _________________ thebucket: I invested in hoodride, now DBD won't return my call?
hazetguy: invested?
thebucket: Yeah Haze, its where people put money into a company in hopes of a return on their money |
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Spike0180 Samba Member
Joined: June 06, 2015 Posts: 2269 Location: Detroit, Michigan
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 5:10 pm Post subject: Re: Should I sell my 1970 bus? |
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skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
what makes you think if it's restored you'd use it more? if you didn't have "time" in 21 years to address it's issues, what makes you think you'd have time to enjoy it?
sell it. when you're ready buy a restored one from a reputable seller/restorer, use it for a year or 2 then sell it again.
I can't tell you how much pipe I laid in my first bus. sold it because the girl I was dating at the time was more fun to ride than the bus was, and she wasn't in to the bus. do I miss it? not really.
like the girl, all buses are the same. they all look like sisters when you lift the skirt. sell it. let someone else have the same memory of getting some stanky for their hang lo |
Interesting you say that. My suggestion was to have you subi swap it so he doesn't have to have nearly as much maintenance. He doesn't want to spend the time working on it, and from what I can tell you give a completed package ready to drive and enjoy. He could have a nice van with new power and no carb adjustments or any of the little things like that that come with these old acvws _________________ Brutis Patches Izabich: 1970 VW Transporter - 1776cc DP
Current State: Projects never truly end...
Location: Grosse Pointe, Michigan
Other cars: 2003 F150, 2003 Jetta GLI vr6-6sp
Sambastic: adj; the quality of being nit picky, elitist, expecting everyone to do things the way they believe is best with no regard to situation, "sambastic" |
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60vwnewengland Twin #2
Joined: June 25, 2003 Posts: 1784 Location: District of Columbia & Cape Cod
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:20 pm Post subject: Re: Should I sell my 1970 bus? |
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hazetguy wrote: |
besides, you can still do the nasty in a GMC Safari. and have actual, real heat. and air conditioning. and go faster than 70......uphill. and wipers and defrost worth a crap. and have $10K + left over after you sell your bus. and you can still have that sliding door 'whoomp'. |
Thanks Jon, now I want GMC Safari... _________________ 77 Westy - Cape Cod Sage
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skills@eurocarsplus Samba Peckerhead
Joined: January 01, 2007 Posts: 16879 Location: sticksville, ct.
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:21 pm Post subject: Re: Should I sell my 1970 bus? |
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if he wanted to do a mechanical restoration with a power plant upgrade that would be fine....I have done it before for many.....but it still doesn't change the fact that time may be a factor here.
of all the cars I have, just yesterday I took the Subaru bus for a ride....we're already 1/2 way thru the year. notice....I said a ride. I went on my 10 mile test loop and grabbed a coffee.
so, I understand the time thing. personally, I think it would be foolish to dump a bunch of money in something that he runs around the block for a coffee. _________________
gprudenciop wrote: |
my reason for switching to subaru is my german car was turning chinese so i said fuck it and went japanese....... |
Jake Raby wrote: |
Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public. |
Brian wrote: |
Also the fact that people are agreeing with Skills, it's a turn of events for samba history |
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 22668 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:39 pm Post subject: Re: Should I sell my 1970 bus? |
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A car with legacy to the love of your live?
Keep it and restore it. Send it somewhere good to restore like skills so She doesn’t have to watch. _________________ .ssS! |
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hazetguy Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2001 Posts: 10773 Location: iT StiNgeD iTseLf tO dEAd
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:41 pm Post subject: Re: Should I sell my 1970 bus? |
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60vwnewengland wrote: |
hazetguy wrote: |
besides, you can still do the nasty in a GMC Safari. and have actual, real heat. and air conditioning. and go faster than 70......uphill. and wipers and defrost worth a crap. and have $10K + left over after you sell your bus. and you can still have that sliding door 'whoomp'. |
Thanks Jon, now I want GMC Safari... |
Wait till you see my Safari at Terryville. I hope you'll be able to contain yourself. _________________ thebucket: I invested in hoodride, now DBD won't return my call?
hazetguy: invested?
thebucket: Yeah Haze, its where people put money into a company in hopes of a return on their money |
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Spike0180 Samba Member
Joined: June 06, 2015 Posts: 2269 Location: Detroit, Michigan
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:48 pm Post subject: Re: Should I sell my 1970 bus? |
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skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
if he wanted to do a mechanical restoration with a power plant upgrade that would be fine....I have done it before for many.....but it still doesn't change the fact that time may be a factor here.
of all the cars I have, just yesterday I took the Subaru bus for a ride....we're already 1/2 way thru the year. notice....I said a ride. I went on my 10 mile test loop and grabbed a coffee.
so, I understand the time thing. personally, I think it would be foolish to dump a bunch of money in something that he runs around the block for a coffee. |
Agreed, i was working under the assumption he wanted to keep it drive it every month or so. Or better, more regularly. A duno engine can sit dormant for longer than an A vw at least. _________________ Brutis Patches Izabich: 1970 VW Transporter - 1776cc DP
Current State: Projects never truly end...
Location: Grosse Pointe, Michigan
Other cars: 2003 F150, 2003 Jetta GLI vr6-6sp
Sambastic: adj; the quality of being nit picky, elitist, expecting everyone to do things the way they believe is best with no regard to situation, "sambastic" |
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scrivyscriv Samba Electrician
Joined: October 04, 2011 Posts: 2922 Location: Memphis
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:20 pm Post subject: Re: Should I sell my 1970 bus? |
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I'm guessing the large cash expense was a new engine and front suspension/disc brakes?
The bus looks good in your photos.. the engine looks decent too.. what else are you expecting to get done before you'll really be able to enjoy driving it?
I am a few years in to owning a running and driving '71 bus. it needs a lot of stuff done, some of it is major rust repair. I don't drive it much right now because I have a truck with heat and a/c, and a quiet ride. i can think of all sorts of things that might help me 'enjoy' the bus more and drive it more often; but then I see some guys here post pics of their daily drivers that have been rode hard and put up wet. and the die hard bus owners just keep driving them, regardless of the state of restoration or repair. (some folks do need to take their bus off the road for repairs tho, like that one guy who was looking for advice about driving without front shocks ) My point is, be intellectually honest with yourself - do you really enjoy owning and driving the bus, or is it nostalgia?
Also I think everyone needs to at least acknowledge Donny's hilarious plumber scenario he just put in our minds _________________ Robert in Memphis
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Brian Samba Moderator
Joined: May 28, 2012 Posts: 8340 Location: Oceanside
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:55 pm Post subject: Re: Should I sell my 1970 bus? |
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Sell it, I need a bus _________________ Wash your hands
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Xevin Samba Member
Joined: January 08, 2014 Posts: 7629
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 9:37 pm Post subject: Re: Should I sell my 1970 bus? |
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skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
what makes you think if it's restored you'd use it more? if you didn't have "time" in 21 years to address it's issues, what makes you think you'd have time to enjoy it?
sell it. when you're ready buy a restored one from a reputable seller/restorer, use it for a year or 2 then sell it again.
I can't tell you how much pipe I laid in my first bus. sold it because the girl I was dating at the time was more fun to ride than the bus was, and she wasn't in to the bus. do I miss it? not really.
like the girl, all buses are the same. they all look like sisters when you lift the skirt. sell it. let someone else have the same memory of getting some stanky for their hang lo |
Damn it, you owe me the beer I just spit out. That was awesome _________________ Keep on Busin'
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My God! Xevin and I 100% agree |
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