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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:14 pm    Post subject: formula V curious Reply with quote

Another old member getting back to my roots.

The current latest build, listed in my signature, is long over. I drove it daily for about 3 years, sold it, bought it back, 2 years later, and am again driving it daily. Too much fun, 'till it rains. gotta get me some fenders...

What I need now is a little help locating a builder Formula V.


What I have in mind is to find a beater/out of date formula V roller or a complete car. I want to cut and lengthen (tandem) an old "V" and make it street legal. I'm currently living in SW Florida, so this ain't as tough as it might be in some northern states. I have the time, the skills and a shop to build a real fun streeter.
The end goal is a fast, safe, fun to drive 2 seater, that retains the look and feel of the early V racers.

Would you guy's look around you and help me find a starting point ?
Thanks for your time and keep those cards and letters coming boy's and girl's

Paul in Floriduh
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 6:27 pm    Post subject: Re: formula V curious Reply with quote

https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/1972-zing-formula-vee-fv-open/6623669889.html
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 5:41 am    Post subject: Re: formula V curious Reply with quote

A street legal Formula Vee would be sweet!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:16 pm    Post subject: Re: formula V curious Reply with quote

Boy houdy, after a couple of months driving a street legal sand rail again, I got the bug for something a bit faster and better handling. (My wife says it's a third childhood thing) A stretched "V" with around 125 horsepower, should scratch that itch. (a hundred HP in the rail makes one pay attention)

I made contact with the seller in the link, it's a bare roller/engine. still waiting on history and such, but it's very interesting. I think the asking price might be a little high, for what's there, but we haven't started the dance yet. The sticky part might be the price of body parts, seller say's he has a source, but I'm not sure what I'm looking for.

The center section looks like 3 piece, roll formed .063 aluminum, with the nose and engine cover of fiberglass. With all the hacking I have planned, the center section would seem to be pretty easy. I wouldn't have to stay with the Zink body either, the frame dimensions I have seen are not very divergent. Would somebody please take an old fart to school?

I'd like to get the nose look closer to the Eagle or Lola nose and the rear cover closer to the old Champion flat deck, with a small spoiler or ground effects look. All that might make the purist/vintage guy's groan some, sorry about that...

And the search goes on...


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 3:47 am    Post subject: Re: formula V curious Reply with quote

Or buy a Berrien knockdown kit & build it how you would like, it seems like that would be easier.

A zero roll rear suspension isn’t going to work well with a side by side configuration, you’d have to build it as a tandem.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 8:28 am    Post subject: Re: formula V curious Reply with quote

This always was, and is, a tandem style build, mostly to preserve the "formula" look.

I got a good look at a purpose built tandem 2 seater indy car. I didn't get to ride in it, but I talked to several that did. Apparently, flying back seat in an indy car is not for the faint of heart... it did however plant a seed...

I found the Berrien/acme site but no V or formula like stuff, could you link it for me please?

Thanks, Paul
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 11:14 am    Post subject: Re: formula V curious Reply with quote

Would you put a fan shroud on the motor? That would pretty much spoil the lines.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 11:24 am    Post subject: Re: formula V curious Reply with quote

Actually, I had already considered using a pancake engine. (Type 3)

Several of the bodies I have looked at will hide a 36 HP shroud or the old style Empi aluminum one. A custom shroud with a crank driven fan is not out of the question.

For street use, the cooling system should not need much help.

What advice do you'll have?

Thanks, Paul
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 11:38 am    Post subject: Re: formula V curious Reply with quote

None that I can offer. Just not sure how safe something that low and with little to no side protection will be on the street. A great idea, but with all the SUV's on the roads today, it seems like they would run you over and hardly notice. GL and be safe.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:32 pm    Post subject: Re: formula V curious Reply with quote

Roger that, My current streeter sand rail is bright yellow, with flags and big lights. I still get close calls from socker mom's in Lincoln Navagators, lol. Fortunately, I can usually out maneuver them, easily. Does make me pay attention though.

I'm thinking of an "eyeball high" to a pickup, brightly colored wing, with tail lights and turn signals on it, as well as a couple of 8 foot CB whip antennae, with flags, Motion seems to catch the eye.

Thanks, Paul
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