ESA your thoughts

[Zundfolge1432]

Businesses are bound by the Americans with disabilities act aka ADA to recognize people with disabilities that need service dogs and a few others. It started off as a good idea helping veterans, the blind and those with legitimate needs now has morphed into a wider category called emotional support animals to include pigs, ducks, snakes,rats, mice, spiders etc. does this sound right? What if you had to sit in close proximity to this situation? You may be faced with this if you use public transportation, how will you deal with it ?

[hitest]

It's just as abused as handicapped tags around here. It's far beyond support and now is simply a form of self expression. Sure there are legitimate benefactors- but mostly the perps just want to be more like J. Bieber or Paris Hilton. I dismiss it as a predictable percentage of the mentally handicapped (diagnosed or just livin' large) who walk among us until the following happens:

A dog is plunked down fur-assed in the child's seat of a shopping cart. "How sweet, my baby thanks you for the tapeworms lady."

A dog is held in arms above fresh food level at grocery stores. "Everyone deserves to see this olive bar- thanks for the furry pimentos and of course the Parvo, ma'am."

A dog is taken into a restaurant and allowed a window booth seat, chopsticks and a fortune cookie. "How cute, Fifi gets her own Mongolian bowl. Thank you for the botulism, miss."
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[TDCTDI]

Or just as abused as say “affordable housing”. I drive by a section 8 neighborhood regularly & they traded in the S class & the S6 for a Bentley. It looks pretty fucking silly in front of a 700sqft house.
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[vwracerdave]

Same thing has happened with handicapped parking. Used to be you had to be in a wheel chair or other mobility assisted device. Now you can get a handicap parking permit for simply being fat and too damn lazy to walk.
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[windfish]

Real service animals are highly trained to focus on their job and owner.
They're extremely unlikely to be the cause of any trouble and are often providing the means for their owner to be active.

Emotional support animals rarely have any training, the only requirement appears to be that a doctor says their patient would benefit from having an ESA.
People have been bit by ESAs, two on airlines just this year.
Delta - https://www.fox25boston.com/news/trending-now/delt.../686368395
SouthWest - https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/flights/toda...362759002/

ESA accommodations for untrained animals in public will probably be short lived.
If they want to be treated like service animals, emotional support animals really need a strict training requirement. Otherwise they should be relegated to wherever pets are normally allowed, not given free reign.
That, and the people need training as well. There's a large number of people who cannot accurately read their animal's behavior and end up escalating a situation that shouldn't have happened.
Awful lot of videos online where an animal, usually dog, is totally stressed out but people think it's being cute.

[TDCTDI]

At least one airline came to its senses.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42880690
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[bigdog1962]

I work in a place where I see people with these "emotional support" animals - usually a dog. It's my observation that these type of animals cause more stress than if the person didn't have one.

I absolutely support service animals for the blind, handicapped, etc. but for emotional support? I don't buy it one bit. I think there is more to the story than "emotional support."
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[Zundfolge1432]

Did you know you can buy fake credentials and certificate on Amazon to pass off this shit as real? My peeve people letting dogs shit in the walkways and they just keep walking.

Also available a nice official looking sweater vest for you fake service animal

[gt1953]

Around here it is abused for sure and I do not like it one bit.
Sad for those the honestly need it.
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[Manfred58sc]

I see the stress and speed of modern life just crushing people, If an animal helps them through the day can't we show some compassion and tolerate the minor inconvenience? There are plenty of other, serious issues to be annoyed with ( that space of indignation must be filled! ) .
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[pondoras box]

Ok since you asked.

I think America needs to grow up! Emotional support peacocks trying to get on airplanes! WTF! If you cant handle the stress of flying on a plane stay the fuck home, take a bus or some other means.

I get using trained certified animals for people with genuine physical disabilities. But just because you want to take your yappy mutt on vacation with you doesn't mean I should have to endure an animal that you have no control over or isn't trained worth a damn. What about zoonotic diseases? You going to pay for my healthcare when your "therapy" animal makes me sick? Do I have to put up with the smell of an animal that craps or pisses on the floor of a bus or plane?

Last time I checked we all have rights in the U.S. but what people forget is we only have rights up to the point that it infringes upon the rights of other!

This whole situation reminds of the Geico commercial with R Lee Ermey. You know what makes me sad? YOU DO!

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=r+lee+ermey+g...;FORM=VIRE
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[ALLWAGONS]

I love animals (I own two dogs, three cats a turtle and we just gave away our 20 yr old double yellow head amazon parrot) But this is getting ridiculous. My animals are pets, yes they are parts of my family, but they are the pet part. Sleep outside on their own house/pen. The cats are free to come and go, but NO, my pets DO NOT need to go with me to Target or Costco or anywhere except the park/beach or lake where they can run wild and have fun.

More than once I've called a manager's attention as people place their pets on the shopping cart where we place our food. Once this woman placed her fuzzy dog on the conveyor as she paid. I fully understand the concept, but animals should keep you happy at home. Once I flew to Cancun, and my seat neighbors had a Dachsund between their seats, poop mutt was as miserable as can be.

ESA should be for YOUR own distress, I live by "Your liberty ends, where mine begins" ideology. Service animals have a purpose, assist with your disability, ESA are just pets you want to bring along.

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[kingkarmann]

One on one human interaction is no longer necessary with social media and being able to do any number of things on-line from getting an education to shopping. People have not been taught how to deal with criticism and conflict resolution. Pets are non-judgmental and love un-conditionally. This is not the real world. We need a "Real World" curriculum in schools starting in kindergarten taught by real people in a real classroom.
My Dad has lived in a 55 and over community for nearly 20 years. No animals. If you have any sort of pet this is not the place you would want to live. As a family we grew up with pets. I have a dog and two cats in my home. Dad didn't chose his retirement community based on the pet restrictions. ESA has pitted long time friends and neighbors against each other. It encourages irresponsible behavior. Why do you need to bring your pet with you everywhere. I know folks think of there pet as a surrogate child but even my folks knew when and when not it was appropriate to have kids tagging along. They got a babysitter!
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[Manfred58sc]

Infringement?? That ends at your property line. You go into public its a non-stop assault of annoyances that may violate your senses ( or sensibilities ). Everything from fashion to perfume to music and advertising. If some broken person needs the security of a creature to venture forth in this hyper giga byte world ( which is more than many of us are equipped to handle ) , let em' be and show some tolerance. Its better than having them zombied out on pharma drugs or crippled in their homes. Modern life will create many more broken citizens as pressures increase. Have a heart and put up with some "infringements" on your self appointed "rights".
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[Dwayne1m]

I didn't have a "safe place" when I was in school many years ago. Who do I sue for that?

[calvinater]

Your parents
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[Dwayne1m]

Hmm. I believe I said it wrong. It's actually "safe space". I thought schools and universities were supposed to provide them.

[busdaddy]

You mean like those "cry closets" recently installed at the U of Utah?
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