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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:44 am    Post subject: Great Grandpaís 1964 Sunroof Bug Full Stock Restoration Reply with quote

The details will be filled in as we go but over the weekend we dug out of storage my grandfathers 1964 sunroof beetle. Grandpa bought it new, my dad held on to it. I cut my teeth on it and now I am starting down the path to getting it running with my son. I hope this ride is a fun one.

2004. Me and my son in the Bug.

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2018. Same kid this past weekend.

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Lets hope i can find all those non-digital pictures to make the back story interesting...


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:08 am    Post subject: Re: Great Grandfathers 1964 Bug. A four generation story. Reply with quote

Out of curiosity what color is that? Looks too dark for Sea Blue.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:47 am    Post subject: Re: Great Grandfathers 1964 Bug. A four generation story. Reply with quote

Sea Blue. L360 i think.

Interior is all original including paint, carpet, door panels and seat covers. Even the original shredded 64 only seat material is still there. Just the headliner and seat covers were added when i re-painted it 30 years ago. (Had multiple Earl Sheib jobs before that) Smile

It is VERY dirty right now and once washed will post better pictures. That is literally right out of a 10 year hibernation. More on that later too.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:54 am    Post subject: Re: Great Grandfathers 1964 Bug. A four generation story. Reply with quote

That is a very cool looking bug. It looks like it's future is going to be in good hands. Teach him well.

And don't paint it (again) Laughing !
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:57 am    Post subject: Re: Great Grandfathers 1964 Bug. A four generation story. Reply with quote

jwp67 wrote:
That is a very cool looking bug. It looks like it's future is going to be in good hands. Teach him well.

And don't paint it (again) Laughing !


Why not? He already said itís not the original paint.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:01 am    Post subject: Re: Great Grandfathers 1964 Bug. A four generation story. Reply with quote

Sharp64 wrote:
jwp67 wrote:
That is a very cool looking bug. It looks like it's future is going to be in good hands. Teach him well.

And don't paint it (again) Laughing !


Why not? He already said itís not the original paint.


Because I think it looks good like that. I'm sorry, next time I'll pm you before I comment to get your approval. Heaven forbid I have an opinion of my own in the internet age. Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:04 am    Post subject: Re: Great Grandfathers 1964 Bug. A four generation story. Reply with quote

jwp67 wrote:
Sharp64 wrote:
jwp67 wrote:
That is a very cool looking bug. It looks like it's future is going to be in good hands. Teach him well.

And don't paint it (again) Laughing !


Why not? He already said itís not the original paint.


Because I think it looks good like that. I'm sorry, next time I'll pm you before I comment to get your approval. Heaven forbid I have an opinion of my own in the internet age. Laughing


Maybe let the OP decide then? Guesse he should check with you before making any improvements?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:07 am    Post subject: Re: Great Grandfathers 1964 Bug. A four generation story. Reply with quote

Sharp64 wrote:
jwp67 wrote:
Sharp64 wrote:
jwp67 wrote:
That is a very cool looking bug. It looks like it's future is going to be in good hands. Teach him well.

And don't paint it (again) Laughing !


Why not? He already said itís not the original paint.


Because I think it looks good like that. I'm sorry, next time I'll pm you before I comment to get your approval. Heaven forbid I have an opinion of my own in the internet age. Laughing


Maybe let the OP decide then? Guesse he should check with you before making any improvements?


And I'm sorry, you never gave your opinion on anything here. Look in the mirror.
Just wow dude.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:13 am    Post subject: Re: Great Grandfathers 1964 Bug. A four generation story. Reply with quote

Ha!. Opinions are welcomed gentlemen. I have thick skin.

When i was 16 i literally removed at least four blue paint jobs leading up to the current PPG Acrylic Enamel L360 paint job. Paint & Body was self taught trial & error style. Color sanded and all. It was a good launching board for the work i did on buses later which got me into a few books and magazines. Glory days...

What we do now really depend on how far my son wants to take it. The rules i have laid down are that he can do nothing i cannot undo and he cannot paint or alter the interior. He will get very strong guidance towards stock.

From my perspective since i know the car and know what I did to it she really needs a new front clip (accident), new hood (same accident) & a new rear decklid. (rust) I already have the clip and hood. The decklid is one year only and usually priced too high so never got that part.

My son is not me so i will see how far he wants to go. The car ran when parked and the engine has ~5000 miles on it. (40HP) Tranny ~30K. Nothing major there but we will likely find a scrap engine and re-build it for the lesson.

The must do list is brakes, oil, ignition, gas, tires and battery. From there it should be a runner.

The "if dad had his way" list is front clip, re-set the saggy suspension, running boards, fenders and paint job. But like i said, not my project. I am the mentor and guide on this one and i hope he catches "the bug".

It will probably be slow so i will fill in the back story as we go.

Hibernation 10+ years ago.

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Eventually burred behind all that stuff.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:16 am    Post subject: Re: Great Grandfathers 1964 Bug. A four generation story. Reply with quote

jwp67 wrote:
Sharp64 wrote:
jwp67 wrote:
Sharp64 wrote:
jwp67 wrote:
That is a very cool looking bug. It looks like it's future is going to be in good hands. Teach him well.

And don't paint it (again) Laughing !


Why not? He already said itís not the original paint.


Because I think it looks good like that. I'm sorry, next time I'll pm you before I comment to get your approval. Heaven forbid I have an opinion of my own in the internet age. Laughing


Maybe let the OP decide then? Guesse he should check with you before making any improvements?


And I'm sorry, you never gave your opinion on anything here. Look in the mirror.
Just wow dude.


Not sure why youíre getting your panties in a bunch. I simply asked why you were telling the OP not to repaint a car with admitted cheap resprays? I thought we were allowed to ask questions and discuss things? Seems pretty one sided.

To the OP, it would be interesting to see exactly if thatís the original color. Either way itís a nice color, was just curious if it was actually the original one? I have a 64 as well that had the OG material under cheap black seat covers. Always cool to find that, it too bad Iíve yet to really see one that was useable.

Would be nice to see more pictures when you have them. Good luck in your rehab. What are the plans for it?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:25 am    Post subject: Re: Great Grandfathers 1964 Bug. A four generation story. Reply with quote

Skip the paint. Just rubbing compound and wax it will look great.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:44 am    Post subject: Re: Great Grandfathers 1964 Bug. A four generation story. Reply with quote

Doesnít it seem a little odd for you guys to get all bogged down on someone elseís car that has already had multiple cheap re sprays and needs further body work with panel replacements. Maybe dad and son are leaning towards making the car straight with a proper paint job to mimic a factory look. Provenance is what makes this car special. Iím glad to hear itís leaning towards all stock 😀
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:52 am    Post subject: Re: Great Grandfathers 1964 Bug. A four generation story. Reply with quote

Zundfolge1432 wrote:
Doesnít it seem a little odd for you guys to get all bogged down on someone elseís car that has already had multiple cheap re sprays and needs further body work with panel replacements. Maybe dad and son are leaning towards making the car straight with a proper paint job to mimic a factory look. Provenance is what makes this car special. Iím glad to hear itís leaning towards all stock 😀


And the thread was barely an hour old before the jabs started flying! #Bad Talk

Can't wait to hear more of the back story on this one!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:55 am    Post subject: Re: Great Grandfathers 1964 Bug. A four generation story. Reply with quote

Great story. Hope you dig up some more pics. Enjoy this project with your son!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 5:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Great Grandfathers 1964 Bug. A four generation story. Reply with quote

I love these multi-generational stories.

Keep it coming!

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 5:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Great Grandfathers 1964 Bug. A four generation story. Reply with quote

There`s nothing wrong with nice, shiny new paint.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Great Grandfathers 1964 Bug. A four generation story. Reply with quote

Great thread! I look forward to hearing about its history and seeing it come back to life.

I'm in the midst of a 64 bug restoration. I wish I was doing it as a teenager with dad. Instead I am texting pictures and videos to him weekly. Lots of the skills learned from him on other car projects in high school. Your boy will remember this the remainder of his life for sure.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 10:57 am    Post subject: Re: Great Grandfathers 1964 Bug. A four generation story. Reply with quote

Nice picture there Bryan67. Yours??? Very inspiring and a memory flash back like 30 years ago.

The hard part about the back story is finding pictures. I know i have pictures from 1964 when G-pa bought the bug new but then we have to jump forward to when i was 15. Back then in the non-digital world pictures were far and few between but we will see what we can find.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 11:13 am    Post subject: Re: Great Grandfathers 1964 Bug. A four generation story. Reply with quote

COngrats on the project,Matt, and a four generation story beats any trailer queen at any show.

Have fun with your young man and try to sneak in the stories about the earlier generations when you can.

It doesn't matter what paint you put on it.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Great Grandfathers 1964 Bug. A four generation story. Reply with quote

I love '64 sunroof beetles- especially in Sea Blue. Great continuance to the car's story and look forward to more installments.
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