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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:23 am    Post subject: Re: Brilliant Orange Time Capsule: A 39K mi bus and its OG/NLA parts Reply with quote

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Where is the stove above the refrigerator?


Doesn’t have one and never did, the inside of that cabinet doesn’t have a scratch. Weird because it’s a deluxe, but also doesn’t have the three opening top canvas. Someone suggested Canadian buses didn’t get a stove. This was a USA bound bus, but seems to have some mix of Euro/Can options.

Can you post a pic of your stove?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:30 am    Post subject: Re: Brilliant Orange Time Capsule: A 39K mi bus and its OG/NLA parts Reply with quote

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Just... wow. A time capsule indeed.

Get that thing back into a garage or something, now! Do not let it sit outside in the sun and rain and treesap. Ideally, this would be in a museum, or a VW showroom, or something. It should be preserved.


Well, thank you! And believe me, she’s kept tucked away ;o) Part of the problem is my 78’ has been kicked out into the driveway, and it’s more than earned its keep.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:30 am    Post subject: Re: Brilliant Orange Time Capsule: A 39K mi bus and its OG/NLA parts Reply with quote

More engine pics please!
Curious as to where that (fugly) silver heater/preheater hose is going.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:35 am    Post subject: Re: Brilliant Orange Time Capsule: A 39K mi bus and its OG/NLA parts Reply with quote

hazetguy wrote:
More engine pics please!
Curious as to where that (fugly) silver heater/preheater hose is going.
Do you need this part? https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2188331


No it has that, but it doesn’t have the original “Uber rare” 75 crossover tube with preheat shroud that it would connect to from the underside of the left tin. The silver tube was there when I bought it (originally would have been a black paper one?) and it’s going to the correct location on the right rear tin. But again, it’s going nowhere from under the tin since the preheat shroud is not there.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:36 am    Post subject: Re: Brilliant Orange Time Capsule: A 39K mi bus and its OG/NLA parts Reply with quote

Cool. More engine pics though......
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:49 am    Post subject: Re: Brilliant Orange Time Capsule: A 39K mi bus and its OG/NLA parts Reply with quote

at least the muffler is old empi, and not new empi.
From that era, it might not be total crap.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:57 am    Post subject: Re: Brilliant Orange Time Capsule: A 39K mi bus and its OG/NLA parts Reply with quote

Very nice survivor! Very weird options. Almost like a Tourister Package Think

Thats part of what I love about these is the mystery. Cool

Want to sell that yellow pail, I need one badly for my 74 project?

Have you seen this?

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 10:01 am    Post subject: Re: Brilliant Orange Time Capsule: A 39K mi bus and its OG/NLA parts Reply with quote

Awesome find.

So interesting -- I found my pristine '73 in Atlanta as well (Alpharetta). One owner, bought new, garaged for 28 years.

Seems there are some Georgia Peaches out there still!

Congrats, beautiful example.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 11:06 am    Post subject: Re: Brilliant Orange Time Capsule: A 39K mi bus and its OG/NLA parts Reply with quote

Good gawd, man!

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 11:28 am    Post subject: Re: Brilliant Orange Time Capsule: A 39K mi bus and its OG/NLA parts Reply with quote

Put a 53 on it and call it Herbie Bus..
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 11:50 am    Post subject: Re: Brilliant Orange Time Capsule: A 39K mi bus and its OG/NLA parts Reply with quote

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Put a 53 on it and call it Herbie Bus..


No no, it's orange. Do what the po of my 73 did.
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Just kidding don't do that. Don't do that at all.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 11:56 am    Post subject: Re: Brilliant Orange Time Capsule: A 39K mi bus and its OG/NLA parts Reply with quote

Gorgeous.

Yes, to confirm, Canada bound buses (even deluxes) had no propane stoves due to regulations, so that is likely why that was not included. It seems like a ship to US but known that it was intended to be headed to Canada.

Also, my guess on the radio is that maybe in 1975 since AM/FM's were pretty rare, they put in a German one because they were not able to get a US/Europe one in a timely manner - just a guess.

Love to see original stock like this....
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Brilliant Orange Time Capsule: A 39K mi bus and its OG/NLA parts Reply with quote

Three questions:

1) Did this model year come with the white tassels along the top front edge of the pop-top?

2) What year was the battery charger timer panel introduced?

3) Would it be sacrilege to install the combination two burner stove and sink?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 1:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Brilliant Orange Time Capsule: A 39K mi bus and its OG/NLA parts Reply with quote

Just lovely. Cograts!
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 1:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Brilliant Orange Time Capsule: A 39K mi bus and its OG/NLA parts Reply with quote

Amazing bus!
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 2:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Brilliant Orange Time Capsule: A 39K mi bus and its OG/NLA parts Reply with quote

Hello,
I'm with Notchboy, on it being an tourist program "built" type of bus... that somehow showed up in the USA, for its first sell at a dealership..
Wouldn't it have a RV sticker/tag on it, even with only shore power??? UL approved and all.... If it was ment to be sold in the U.S. destination first??
But, any way you look at it, that sure is one nice bus. With a few mysteries to boot.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Brilliant Orange Time Capsule: A 39K mi bus and its OG/NLA parts Reply with quote

Squeeze Cheese wrote:
This was a USA bound bus, but seems to have some mix of Euro/Can options.

Nope.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 8:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Brilliant Orange Time Capsule: A 39K mi bus and its OG/NLA parts Reply with quote

Wow. Just wow.
Great job you've done and thanks for sharing!
That's the mother of all dilemmas you've got as to what to do with the bus (eventually!) I really appreciate your sympathetic touch so far!
Looking forward to engine pics and to see the state it was when you first saw it.
Question: did you fit the foam engine bay seal, or is that how it was when you dropped the engine?

I guess they used the tiny camping stove instead of the absent cooker? Weird to have such a specced out camper and for it to be so lightly used.

Love it.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Brilliant Orange Time Capsule: A 39K mi bus and its OG/NLA parts Reply with quote

Very nice bus. I'm sure the VW museum would be interested in having it
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Brilliant Orange Time Capsule: A 39K mi bus and its OG/NLA parts Reply with quote

I’m back! Had a nice camp with the wife and kids at Stone Mountain, and had the pleasure of a fireside visit from our new friend, Samba member ultralite and his absolutely stunning 69’ Westy:
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That’s our Dakota Beige 78’, and for those that wondered why anyone would consider anything else a “forever bus” when one owns this mint orange 75’…

Yesterday I would have told you the reason is because I have put too much work into the 78’ since I’ve had it, all the essential upgrades, solar, glorious cold modern AC, getting it driving just right, a history of memories made, etc. and the thought of doing it again on another bus is exhausting. But today, I know the real reason. The 78’ sits in the garage right now – absolutely trashed. Over the course of 48 hours, a 3 and a 5 year old, who swam no less than a dozen times in various bodies of water, managed to turn it into a bus that looks like we’ve been living in it for 2 years. There’s a layer of funk – you know what I mean – on everything.

It’s not that I’d be afraid of funking up the Orange 75’, funk from use is mostly temporary. It’s that I like not caring about that funk! I have absolutely no hesitation in taking the 78’ on adventures, knowing it will be nicked, rained on, smeared, dribbled with edible substances… and it’s a cherry bus, no doubt, I'm really proud of it - but it’s not tooooooo perfect, know what I mean? With the Brilliant Orange 75’, I’m in such awe at it’s condition that I, personally, would hesitate to abuse it like I know I would! I figure, if the eventual “forever owner” should decide to use it for an around-the-world-trek - or put it in a museum, that’s their prerogative. But I feel like my role in this is just to preserve it until its destiny unfolds.

Anyway, many requests for engine photos so I’ll use this post for that.

Like I said, I had to pull this engine for the first time because it needed a gasket/seal set and of course new fuel and vacuum hoses to run right and safely and not leak a pint of oil with each start up. The original push rod tube seals just crumbled during removal. The foam engine seal had literally turned to dust after sitting for 30 years (along with the front seat padding) and created a wonderful cloud of smoke as it burned on the exhaust when I fired it up for the first time. So I replaced that of course. The fan shroud had a layer of very tough whitish corrosion that I guess was a chemical reaction with the Georgia air, and without harming the original decal, the best I could do was work on it with steel wool. Other than that, I just tried to clean everything.

The factory inspector’s “In Ordnung” stamp, which must have not been very firmly applied that day in 75’:
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The engine count number stamp looks much better:
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Some wide angles. Note the original one year only muffler with preheater shroud was tragically removed. I guess that’s why Ratwell calls it “uber rare” – it didn’t even survive on a bus of this caliber. The “early FI” EGR was disconnected probably at the same time, I made a better block-off plate and painted the muffler and gravel guard, which were the only two rusty things on the car. I also thought it’s cool to see an intact right blower fan-to-riser tube, that crazy shaped accordion thing.
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Here you can see the underside of the 75’ left rear tin with the blocked port that would have originally connected to the crossover tube preheat shroud:
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Believe it or not, first bus I’ve had with no oil leaks!
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The surviving emissions decal and the rare OG steel timing scale with correct 5 degree ATDC dot:
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Duel Vacuum Advance Distributor with original rev-limiter rotor:
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Diagnostic port, still wired up:
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Original air filer:
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The original thermostat, rebuilt by Clark at Awesome Powdercoat:
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The early FI intake nozzle with the preheat intake port
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So clean you could drink from it!
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And finally, the air filter grommet in its original orientation, which I never knew was a part that existed before now:
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More to come…
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