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Blimpie
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 Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 7:10 am Post subject: Ghia exhaust |
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| Hey all. Just joined up. Been a air head for many years. My question: i have a 70 ghia with a 1776 mill. i am looking for a good exhaust that I can get and NOT have to take anything off to adjust the valves. What have you guys found to be the best. I looked at A-1 but they said they didn't have a system that I could use without dropping the muffler. Someone mention Vintage Speed. Looking more towards mellow that horsepower. Any help you guys/gals could share would be absorbed with great interest!!! Thanks to all!! |
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xzener
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| Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 7:14 am Post subject: Re: ghia exhaust |
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Have you seen the Trip Mil 2 tip exhaust?
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sactojesse
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| Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 9:48 am Post subject: Re: ghia exhaust |
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What are the specs on your 1776? Stock heads? Heater boxes? Assuming "yes" to both, you'll be looking for a 1 3/8" exhaust that works with heater boxes. I'm partial to four-into-one extractors with dual quiet packs, but ground clearance is an issue with those. Most of the two-tip exhausts, e.g., "hot dog" and Empi GT, etc., are loud and don't particularly perform well. The Vintage Speed might be an exception, as they supposedly have a deeper, mellower tone.
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| Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 12:18 pm Post subject: Re: ghia exhaust |
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Turn them puppies up 45* & you could be sportin the first Bosozoku Ghia. 
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c21darrel
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kiwighia68
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| Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 1:28 pm Post subject: Re: ghia exhaust |
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I've just installed the Vintage Speed "quiet" exhaust on my stock 1641 motor and it does have a slightly deeper sound. It's not as quiet as I expected, but the fit and clearance are both good. Looks good too. Very good workmanship.
Expensive, though.
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VeloMikey
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| Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 2:18 pm Post subject: Re: ghia exhaust |
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My A-1 Sidewinder has a V-Band so I loosen the clamp, remove a single nut and bolt and swing the muffler out of the way. Takes less than 5 minutes. Doesn't look like an after thought hanging off the back of the car. Sorry, it had to be said.
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KGCoupe
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| Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 6:45 am Post subject: Re: ghia exhaust |
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This thread is useless without sound clips. 
Well OK, ... "useless" may be a bit too strong of a word, but isn't how an exhaust system sounds equally (or perhaps even more) important as how convenient it is when it comes to performing a valve job?  |
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kiwighia68
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| Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 2:00 pm Post subject: Re: ghia exhaust |
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| KGCoupe wrote: |
This thread is useless without sound clips. :(
Well OK, ... "useless" may be a bit too strong of a word, but isn't how an exhaust system sounds equally (or perhaps even more) important as how convenient it is when it comes to performing a valve job? :) |
Okay, I get it. I'll try doing one later today.
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SixtyThreeRag
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| Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 9:30 pm Post subject: Re: ghia exhaust |
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| I don't have to remove anything to adjust my valves with my A1 Sidewinder exhaust. It's a bit in the way, but nothing I can't work around for a valve adjustment. The exhaust sounds great, and the build quality is top notch. I'll post a pic when I get a chance. |
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kiwighia68
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| Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2018 11:29 am Post subject: Re: ghia exhaust |
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| KGCoupe wrote: |
This thread is useless without sound clips. :(
Well OK, ... "useless" may be a bit too strong of a word, but isn't how an exhaust system sounds equally (or perhaps even more) important as how convenient it is when it comes to performing a valve job? :) |
Okay, I get it. I'll try doing one later today. |
I tried to post a video with before and after sound but can't get it to work. Sorry.
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KGCoupe
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| Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:47 pm Post subject: Re: ghia exhaust |
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| kiwighia68 wrote: |
| kiwighia68 wrote: |
| KGCoupe wrote: |
This thread is useless without sound clips.
Well OK, ... "useless" may be a bit too strong of a word, but isn't how an exhaust system sounds equally (or perhaps even more) important as how convenient it is when it comes to performing a valve job? |
Okay, I get it. I'll try doing one later today. |
I tried to post a video with before and after sound but can't get it to work. Sorry. |
No worries, I tried to write a novel, run a half marathon and restore a Karmann Ghia once and couldn't get any of the three to work either.
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tommu
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| Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 7:20 pm Post subject: Re: ghia exhaust |
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| kiwighia68 wrote: |
I've just installed the Vintage Speed "quiet" exhaust on my stock 1641 motor and it does have a slightly deeper sound. It's not as quiet as I expected, but the fit and clearance are both good. Looks good too. Very good workmanship.
Expensive, though. |
I had one too - with pre-heat. Louder than I liked but I doubt it’s louder than anything else non-stock. I went back to stock in the end for better pre-heat and sound and everything else.
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rcooled
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| Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 11:33 am Post subject: Re: ghia exhaust |
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| Blimpie wrote: |
| Looking more towards mellow that horsepower. |
A good-quality stock muffler with tapered exhaust tips will provide just what you're looking for.
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| Have you seen the Trip Mil 2 tip exhaust? |
I tried one of these 'hotdog' mufflers and found it to be annoyingly LOUD...especially when the motor is under load at mid-to-high RPM.
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| I went back to stock in the end for better pre-heat and sound and everything else. |
I wound up doing the same...couldn't take the harsh racket from that Tri-Mil muffler any longer. Much happier now running a stock muffler with SS tapered tips.
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c21darrel
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Blimpie
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:39 pm Post subject: Re: ghia exhaust |
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| What are the specs on your 1776? Stock heads? Heater boxes? Assuming "yes" to both, you'll be looking for a 1 3/8" exhaust that works with heater boxes. I'm partial to four-into-one extractors with dual quiet packs, but ground clearance is an issue with those. Most of the two-tip exhausts, e.g., "hot dog" and Empi GT, etc., are loud and don't particularly perform well. The Vintage Speed might be an exception, as they supposedly have a deeper, mellower tone. |
Hello. my motor has 044 heads and I have decided to go with j-tubes. really would like it to be more mellow than loud. My motor guy says I will need at least a 1.5 inch header. Thanks for your time and help. It is very much apericiated! |
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Blimpie
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:41 pm Post subject: Re: ghia exhaust |
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Agree, you want to match your components. With my current exhaust I dont have to remove anything for the once a year valve adjustment. I used to run a hide-away where I did, it wasnt much extra, maybe 10 minutes to remove the muffler. My new system breaths better, no obstruction of valve covers, no hitting going in driveways, works for me. I had a guy build it for me, I think I spent less the $240? It's jet coated so no maintenance. Old school duels. 
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Blimpie
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:44 pm Post subject: Re: ghia exhaust |
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| kiwighia68 wrote: |
I've just installed the Vintage Speed "quiet" exhaust on my stock 1641 motor and it does have a slightly deeper sound. It's not as quiet as I expected, but the fit and clearance are both good. Looks good too. Very good workmanship.
Expensive, though. |
hello. do you have a picture of your set up? also where did you purchase your system? Thanks ever so much!! |
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