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Ian Godfrey
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2021 8:45 pm    Post subject: Re: 69 road race Ghia rebuild Reply with quote

Ian Godfrey wrote:
last thing for this week I got the calipers on:

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and the mount to adapt it to the arm Very Happy

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as you can see I do have a nasty problem that I keep stopping to drill holes in everything Rolling Eyes slows me up a lot
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2021 11:52 am    Post subject: Re: 69 road race Ghia rebuild Reply with quote

Ian, nice to see that your car will be build to be a serios race car Cool

Lot's of ideas you do not see on show cars and seem to make a lot of sense on yours! Keep going!
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 1:32 am    Post subject: Re: 69 road race Ghia rebuild Reply with quote

Hey Ian,

Where'd you get all that sexy dished (lightened I imagine) fasteners you're using?

Second, your roll bar hoop ties in and appears to bolt to the side sills in the back seat area. Is there anything under there that ties the mounting plates to the pan?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 3:16 am    Post subject: Re: 69 road race Ghia rebuild Reply with quote

Ian Godfrey wrote:
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front arms in
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Ian, I had a look at your built again today. Are the front shocks all the way out on above picture? Looks like the lower control arms are not even parallel to the ground and not even considering any loading and/or droop yet? Confused

Maybe it is the perspective of the photo, but the shocks look short compared to: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1244668.jpg

Kevin suggests the lower arms to be parallel to the ground when the car is filled and sitting on the ground. Or did you order extra short shocks for an extra low ride maybe? Cool

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 8:11 am    Post subject: Re: 69 road race Ghia rebuild Reply with quote

It is always a pleasure to see a craftsman apply his trade on a serious project. Very well done Sir. Your skills are admirable.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 8:58 am    Post subject: Re: 69 road race Ghia rebuild Reply with quote

Ian, you mentioned testing your car's torsional stiffness.
How do you accomplish that?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 2:04 pm    Post subject: Re: 69 road race Ghia rebuild Reply with quote

Dorigtt, most of the fasteners are from Ti64 and some from Race Bolts in Australia. they are lovely titanium with rolled threads and not far off metric grade 8.8 in strength.
Well spotted on the roll bar, there is a plate welded to the side shelf and a pipe that is welded to the underside that goes to the floor. It's bolted to the floor so the body can be removed.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 3:50 pm    Post subject: Re: 69 road race Ghia rebuild Reply with quote

here's how the main roll bar hoop meet the side tray:

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then the post underneath to the floor:

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then the doubler under the pan:

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I did the design and the peeps at Meridian Motorsport did the excellent construction. A lot of welding in very tricky places Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 11:56 pm    Post subject: Re: 69 road race Ghia rebuild Reply with quote

Dorigtt, in the excellent thread on STF https://shoptalkforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=127619
FJ Camper has a diagram of where the Ghia pan twists (the yellow stripe), you can see it when you jack up one front wheel and the door doesn't close properly.

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After I installed the cage it made no difference where I raised the car, the doors shut normally.
There are machines for testing torsional stiffness where the rear suspension points are fixed to a frame and a beam is fixed to the front suspension points, a force is applied to the beam and the deflection of the body measured. I would love to get this done out of curiosity. There is a good diagram on page 8 of this article
https://openscholarship.wustl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1073&context=mems411
thank you for your interest in my project, as it is a bit different to most of the threads on this forum.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 12:05 am    Post subject: Re: 69 road race Ghia rebuild Reply with quote

Halbug, there definitely is an issue with my front shocks, I didn't order short shocks! And my front suspension has no droop Crying or Very sad
When I finish setting up the front end I'll email Mendeola and see if the shock issue and a couple of other things can be resolved.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 2:36 am    Post subject: Re: 69 road race Ghia rebuild Reply with quote

So on to the hand brake mechanism. I've got a Wilwood caliper made for Rally Design that is intended for English Ford Escorts. I got it because is has a really clever handbrake design that is very light, but it did mean I had to make up my own cables. Rally design provide a basic inner and outer but it needs adapting.
first i finished off the rear hard lines

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then I turned up some adapters copied of the VW ones

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which slide onto the provided outer

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which go in the pan in the normal way

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at the caliper the outer has a teat

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and a spring to keep them apart

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I still need to finalise the length and crimp on the swage end

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 2:40 am    Post subject: Re: 69 road race Ghia rebuild Reply with quote

finished up it looks like this.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 2:43 am    Post subject: Re: 69 road race Ghia rebuild Reply with quote

Finally after many months it's on the ground

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I'm using 8" wheels with 225/50R16 tyres and clearance is very tight Shocked
here's the cut back bump stop

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and the cut back camber adjusting bolt with a Jet nut

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2 - 3mm at both spots Very Happy

now onto the gear box fitting
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 4:25 am    Post subject: Re: 69 road race Ghia rebuild Reply with quote

Congratulation Cool Cool Cool

Looking great and must be a fantastic feeling to see a rolling chassis in your shop.

Cheers Lars
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 6:51 am    Post subject: Re: 69 road race Ghia rebuild Reply with quote

That's bloody brilliant. Very well done.

Congratz on the Ghia being a "roller" again as well.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 1:29 pm    Post subject: Re: 69 road race Ghia rebuild Reply with quote

Thankyou, yes very happy to see it on it's wheels, I just stood and looked at it for a long time Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 2:03 pm    Post subject: Re: 69 road race Ghia rebuild Reply with quote

what size are your fronts?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:04 pm    Post subject: Re: 69 road race Ghia rebuild Reply with quote

the fronts are 195/50R16 on 6" rims with 52mm offset


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 4:27 pm    Post subject: Re: 69 road race Ghia rebuild Reply with quote

I can't wait to see what engine goes in that beast and the electronic controls associated with it. Looking at the rest of your build, I seriously doubt it will be carbureted.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 12:21 am    Post subject: Re: 69 road race Ghia rebuild Reply with quote

Overboost, it's a bit old school and a bit new. DTA programmable ignition with a throttle position sensor and a temperature send. JPM 230 heads, raptor cam etc on a dry sump 2387 type 1 with Weber 48 IDA's...... 'cos I love the sound, the look and I know how to tune them. Sorry, no fuel injection at this stage but never say never Wink
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