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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 6:00 pm Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. |
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I think the last fellow who did one said he would have saved time pulling the engine instead of trying to do it in the bus. This is a 1970's vehicle and not a late model 10,000 sensor engine. _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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Xevin Samba Member
Joined: January 08, 2014 Posts: 7632
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 6:03 pm Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. |
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Would be nice to see what’s going on under those valve covers.
To bad Averys is so backed up. Question. Could OP slap a couple of new heads on (or one) out of the box to get home. Then have heads gone through once home? Or will heat cycles screw with them too much? Dustin, If you planing on replacing heads. Might consider applying exhaust hardware in liquid wrench or PB now.
Broke down in front of an ACVW shop in the Pacific Northwest with hardware stores in walking distance. You could do worse
I put your bus broken down right about here.
_________________ Keep on Busin'
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GFY's Xevin and VW_Jimbo! |
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My God! Xevin and I 100% agree |
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51149 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 6:03 pm Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. |
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Oh yeah, my first choice would always be drop the engine, but it's not impossible to do it installed, no fun and a much shittier job in many ways, but not impossible. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 6:09 pm Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. |
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I looked at Colin's schedule. He was in Boise yesterday. That is 8 hours. Don't know if he would be willing to backtrack but if so that is an option too. I am sure one would have to pay double time or at least time and mileage. He was just in that area you are a couple days ago. Robbie is also around but I don't know how familiar he is with T4 head swaps. Colin is really comfortable with it. I am too far south from you to help - 650 miles.
Colin - https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=2768
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Roadside Emergency Contact List
Post by Amskeptic » Fri Mar 01, 2013 11:31 am
http://www.aircooledrescue.com/
(I am a contact on that list "Amskeptic")
BobD - 1978 Bus . . . . . . . . . . .111,130 miles
Chloe - 1970 bus . . . . . . . . . . . 206,787 miles
Naranja - 1977 Westfalia . . . . . 81,366 miles
Pluck - 1973 Squareback . . . . . 55,510 miles
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Stuartzickefoose Samba Post Whore
Joined: February 07, 2008 Posts: 10350 Location: SoCal for now...
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 6:44 pm Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. |
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_________________ Stuart Zickefoose
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Xevin Samba Member
Joined: January 08, 2014 Posts: 7632
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 6:47 pm Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. |
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Excellent Stuart. _________________ Keep on Busin'
67rustavenger wrote: |
GFY's Xevin and VW_Jimbo! |
Clatter wrote: |
Damn that Xevin... |
skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
I respect Xevin and he's a turd |
SGKent wrote: |
My God! Xevin and I 100% agree |
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Stuartzickefoose Samba Post Whore
Joined: February 07, 2008 Posts: 10350 Location: SoCal for now...
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 7:47 pm Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. |
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Sounds like a main bearing/rod knock. Looking at a total engine rebuild. Keep y’all posted! Grabbing dinner and continuing north... _________________ Stuart Zickefoose
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TomWesty Samba Member
Joined: November 23, 2007 Posts: 3482 Location: Wyoming,USA
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 7:47 pm Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. |
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busdaddy wrote: |
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And in that case, blind luck as to where the valve stem broke..... |
Indeed, but a roadside head swap with the engine in place in a couple hours is rather epic don't you think?, not saying everyone is up to it, but it can be done. |
No doubt! Like a Baja pit crew or something. _________________ If you haven't bled on them, you haven't worked on them.
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 22671 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 7:55 pm Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. |
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Good news is the roadside head option is off the table. Moving forward is good. _________________ .ssS! |
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Gulfaholic Samba Member
Joined: January 18, 2017 Posts: 14
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 9:21 pm Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. |
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Thanks for everyone's help. Staurt picked us up and is going to help us get back on the road. |
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Spike0180 Samba Member
Joined: June 06, 2015 Posts: 2269 Location: Detroit, Michigan
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 9:47 pm Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. |
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Gulfaholic wrote: |
Thanks for everyone's help. Staurt picked us up and is going to help us get back on the road. |
Glad to hear! Stuart is good people, and very capable. You're in good hands. _________________ Brutis Patches Izabich: 1970 VW Transporter - 1776cc DP
Current State: Projects never truly end...
Location: Grosse Pointe, Michigan
Other cars: 2003 F150, 2003 Jetta GLI vr6-6sp
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Wildthings Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 50351
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 9:51 pm Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. |
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Strange to have a Type 4 bottom end failure. There would be more shops out there capable of turning Type 4 cranks if that happened often. |
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aeromech Samba Member
Joined: January 24, 2006 Posts: 16971 Location: San Diego, California
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 10:08 pm Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. |
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FedEx in a complete long block and get Stu to install it. Should only be about a two hour job and completely rebuilt T4 long blocks are readily available and super cheap. Plus Stu works for fast food.
Yeah, I’m a dick. Just being that way because in my opinion you’re really fucked. You’re traveling and now you lost an engine in a rare, 40 something year old car. It’s not like you can just drop by Autozone and grab one.
Leave the bus. Have fun in your rental car. Figure out what to do later. _________________ Lead Mechanic: San Diego Air and Space Museum
Licensed Airframe and Powerplant Mechanic
Licensed Pilot (Single engine Land)
Boeing 727,737-200-300-400,757,767
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BAe146
Fokker F28/F100
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 10:09 pm Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. |
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Wildthings wrote: |
Strange to have a Type 4 bottom end failure. There would be more shops out there capable of turning Type 4 cranks if that happened often. |
could be a rod knock if the valve smacked a piston. _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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Wildthings Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 10:42 pm Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. |
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aeromech wrote: |
FedEx in a complete long block and get Stu to install it. Should only be about a two hour job and completely rebuilt T4 long blocks are readily available and super cheap. Plus Stu works for fast food.
Yeah, I’m a dick. Just being that way because in my opinion you’re really fucked. You’re traveling and now you lost an engine in a rare, 40 something year old car. It’s not like you can just drop by Autozone and grab one.
Leave the bus. Have fun in your rental car. Figure out what to do later. |
Is there a 40 year old vehicle on the road that isn't rare? VW Transporters might well be the most common 40 year old vehicle a person might see out on the road any given time frame warpage. |
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aeromech Samba Member
Joined: January 24, 2006 Posts: 16971 Location: San Diego, California
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 10:54 pm Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. |
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Ok, I’m wrong. Let’s see the links for available complete long blocks that will solve these people’s problem. Something that a cc and fast shipping can get to them in two days so Stu can work his magic and get them on their way by next week. I’m waiting..... _________________ Lead Mechanic: San Diego Air and Space Museum
Licensed Airframe and Powerplant Mechanic
Licensed Pilot (Single engine Land)
Boeing 727,737-200-300-400,757,767
Airbus A319,320,321
DC9/MD80
BAe146
Fokker F28/F100
VW type 1 1962,63,65,69,72
VW Type 2 1971 (3 ea.) 1978, 1969
VW Jetta
VW Passat
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Tcash Samba Member
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Tcash Samba Member
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Stuartzickefoose Samba Post Whore
Joined: February 07, 2008 Posts: 10350 Location: SoCal for now...
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:06 am Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. |
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Got it back to the farm...Looking like we are going to power wash the engine and trans, remove and tear down to the short block and inspect for a proper diagnosis. This guy also happens to be a 11 year master boat mechanic, so between my limited expertise with VWS and where to get parts, and his tools and ability to turn a wrench, I’m guessing we can do a full rebuild in a week or two depending on machine shop turn around time. You guys are treating this like a couple high school girls just blew their engine on their 25k bus...chillax for a bit and let me get some accurate diagnostics done so we can fill you in on the proper details.
Getting the right information can really help to point the finger in the right direction... or in this case, what the next step is.
It’s not like I’m going to use Ketchup And JB WELD to do a quick partial rebuild fix...we will fix it right. _________________ Stuart Zickefoose
2011 Jetta Sportwagen TDi 6 speed manual
206-841-7324
[email protected]
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Stuartzickefoose Samba Post Whore
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:08 am Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. |
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Wildthings wrote: |
Strange to have a Type 4 bottom end failure. There would be more shops out there capable of turning Type 4 cranks if that happened often. |
Sounded like it may have been rebuilt in the past due to having solid lifters (which was discovered during a valve adjust) and its a 78, which should have hydros. Wouldn’t surprise me the builder wasn’t as good as a German. _________________ Stuart Zickefoose
2011 Jetta Sportwagen TDi 6 speed manual
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