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aeromech Samba Member
Joined: January 24, 2006 Posts: 16926 Location: San Diego, California
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 7:32 pm Post subject: Re: Broke down in Longview WA. (engine rebuild in progress) |
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I’ll give Stu an A for having good intentions _________________ Lead Mechanic: San Diego Air and Space Museum
Licensed Airframe and Powerplant Mechanic
Licensed Pilot (Single engine Land)
Boeing 727,737-200-300-400,757,767
Airbus A319,320,321
DC9/MD80
BAe146
Fokker F28/F100
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VW Type 2 1971 (3 ea.) 1978, 1969
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KentABQ Samba Member
Joined: September 11, 2016 Posts: 2406 Location: Albuquerque NM
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:18 pm Post subject: Re: Broke down in Longview WA. (engine rebuild in progress) |
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wcfvw69 wrote: |
Stuart, after the mauling and beat down from his lovable, supportive bay "friends" on The Samba after trying to help out a couple on the road. |
GASP!
Those Samba heathens cut his hair?!?
Oh, the humanity!!!
aeromech wrote: |
I’ll give Stu an A for having good intentions |
I give him major kudos, too. Stu is always eager to help out where and when he can. _________________ -Kent-
1976 Riviera, 1.8l FI chrome yellow VAN - "Chloe"
"I must say, how can you be in a bad mood driving this vehicle full of vibrant color.
Cars of today are so bland in comparison. It's like driving a celebration!" ---WildIdea
Bus ownership via emoticons:
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 22573 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:42 pm Post subject: Re: Broke down in Longview WA. (engine rebuild in progress) |
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aeromech wrote: |
I’ll give Stu an A for having good intentions |
Excellent
I’m short on paving material right now
-Feklar _________________ .ssS! |
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Stuartzickefoose Samba Post Whore
Joined: February 07, 2008 Posts: 10350 Location: SoCal for now...
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:06 am Post subject: Re: Broke down in Longview WA. (engine rebuild in progress) |
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thanks guys.
Next trick will be learning to only commit to what i can actually deliver on... _________________ Stuart Zickefoose
2011 Jetta Sportwagen TDi 6 speed manual
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Xevin Samba Member
Joined: January 08, 2014 Posts: 7599
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 9:08 am Post subject: Re: Broke down in Longview WA. (engine rebuild in progress) |
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I will say this. Even though the engine build was a disappointment . Because of Stuart’s good intentions and hospitality. The OP gained a ton of valuable ACVW knowledge. People pay Colin and Robbie $500 a day to learn. That guy got one hell of a scholarship and no doubt he will graduate with honors when he gets the bus home. Stuart, you took your beat down like a man
You probably gained a lot from this experience too. Keep on whistling brother.
Link
_________________ Keep on Busin'
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GFY's Xevin and VW_Jimbo! |
Clatter wrote: |
Damn that Xevin... |
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I respect Xevin and he's a turd |
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My God! Xevin and I 100% agree |
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aeromech Samba Member
Joined: January 24, 2006 Posts: 16926 Location: San Diego, California
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 9:13 am Post subject: Re: Broke down in Longview WA. (engine rebuild in progress) |
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Stu and I are good. _________________ Lead Mechanic: San Diego Air and Space Museum
Licensed Airframe and Powerplant Mechanic
Licensed Pilot (Single engine Land)
Boeing 727,737-200-300-400,757,767
Airbus A319,320,321
DC9/MD80
BAe146
Fokker F28/F100
VW type 1 1962,63,65,69,72
VW Type 2 1971 (3 ea.) 1978, 1969
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 9:15 am Post subject: Re: Broke down in Longview WA. (engine rebuild in progress) |
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Stuartzickefoose wrote: |
thanks guys.
Next trick will be learning to only commit to what i can actually deliver on... |
Breathe deep and focus. Don't let the forest block the view of the trees. _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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Clatter Samba Member
Joined: September 24, 2003 Posts: 7527 Location: Santa Cruz
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 9:22 am Post subject: Re: Broke down in Longview WA. (engine rebuild in progress) |
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Lesson: Run, don't walk...
Let's think of Stuart as a proctologist..
The patient comes in to get his rear end scoped or something,
But he shat his pants!
The good Dr. Proctor might have said something like,
"Dude, you can't come in here until you've cleaned yourself up."
Yet,
He dove in, shoveled away a clean spot, and started working.
Good on you, Stu.
I hope you at least got paid for _some_ of your work.. _________________ Bus Motor Build
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Stuartzickefoose Samba Post Whore
Joined: February 07, 2008 Posts: 10350 Location: SoCal for now...
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 9:22 am Post subject: Re: Broke down in Longview WA. (engine rebuild in progress) |
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Maybe I should also point out that this wasn’t a hasta Alaska situation ...he wasn’t mooching by any means. Changes the game when people can fund their own trip even when the motor goes. Give Dustin some credit for not being typical broke trash that buys a bus and hasn’t got a clue. Dude knew his stuff and prepared financially for his trip. And he was a nice guy to boot.
His girlfriends dog on the other hand...I was doing my best to find a local eagle or hawk to help solve that problem, and no luck!
Edit: and he more then covered his staying at my parents place, my wrenching and time, fuel in whatever car he used that was ours, food often. He was a good guest for sure _________________ Stuart Zickefoose
2011 Jetta Sportwagen TDi 6 speed manual
206-841-7324
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notchboy Samba Member
Joined: April 27, 2002 Posts: 22416 Location: Escondido CA
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Stuartzickefoose Samba Post Whore
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 9:24 am Post subject: Re: Broke down in Longview WA. (engine rebuild in progress) |
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notchboy wrote: |
Wow. But Id have to admit it fits. |
That’s what you said when you came in last time. _________________ Stuart Zickefoose
2011 Jetta Sportwagen TDi 6 speed manual
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Xevin Samba Member
Joined: January 08, 2014 Posts: 7599
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 9:28 am Post subject: Re: Broke down in Longview WA. (engine rebuild in progress) |
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Stuartzickefoose wrote: |
notchboy wrote: |
Wow. But Id have to admit it fits. |
That’s what you said when you came in last time. |
Just got really uncomfortable in here. _________________ Keep on Busin'
67rustavenger wrote: |
GFY's Xevin and VW_Jimbo! |
Clatter wrote: |
Damn that Xevin... |
skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
I respect Xevin and he's a turd |
SGKent wrote: |
My God! Xevin and I 100% agree |
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notchboy Samba Member
Joined: April 27, 2002 Posts: 22416 Location: Escondido CA
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 9:33 am Post subject: Re: Broke down in Longview WA. (engine rebuild in progress) |
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Xevin wrote: |
Stuartzickefoose wrote: |
notchboy wrote: |
Wow. But Id have to admit it fits. |
That’s what you said when you came in last time. |
Just got really uncomfortable in here. |
Familiarity breeds contempt. _________________
t3kg wrote: |
OK, this thread is over. You win. |
Jason "notchboy" Weigel
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Clatter Samba Member
Joined: September 24, 2003 Posts: 7527 Location: Santa Cruz
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 9:46 am Post subject: Re: Broke down in Longview WA. (engine rebuild in progress) |
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There was a pretty lively discussion about this subject at the Lucky Lab last week...
A few of us were talking,
And my opinion differed a bit from others in the group.
I was saying how my motor had been in for about ten years now,
And I was going to pull it to do the fuel tank hoses again,
And it would be good to strip it, torque the heads, leak-check and clean.
Several other guys there were like:
"Leave it in, that's a lot of wasted work", "Don't touch it",
Or my old perennial favorite:
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it"..
I really hate "If it ain't broke don't fix it".
What you get when you do that, is exactly what our OP got.
EVERY aircooler i get, immediately gets the motor out for a look-over.
Doing otherwise gets you what our OP got here.
The inch-thick pile of sludge on this motor here shows exactly what happened.
The guy wanted to get out of the first, most-basic, fundamental thing you do with these,
And that is pull the motor, clean it up, and make sure the tin is in place.
Maybe if you stay in town, and have AAA on it,
But not out on a road trip. Not in these times. Maybe in 1987.
Dunno if y'all are just used to seeing motors look like this,
Or you haven't taken any apart yet, or..?
Rear-engined air-cooled cars have this fundamental flaw:
They suck air from behind the vehicle, where all of the dirt gets kicked up by the wheels rolling on the (dirty even if it's paved) road.
If (when) they get oil leaks, the fan and dirt provide a constant supply of oil sludge.
This oil sludge fills up the cooling fins, reducing the motor's ability to cool itself.
FAILING to take your motor out and clean it is akin to failing to keep coolant in the radiator of your water-pumper.
Being involved with the hobby since way back in the 80s,
When these cars were everywhere, and people daily-drove them,
It was always just policy.
A new car comes into your life, first thing you do is take the motor out and check it.
You would never just trust that it was all right and just drive it.
It doesn't work like that. Fools get in there and mess these things up.
This fundamental fact has apparently been lost.
You would see the sorriest motors last a decent amount of time if they were dressed down and tuned.
To get one of these cars, and not even look at it, before taking it on a trip,
You can almost bet what you ae going to get..
Must.... Not... Rant.... Ranting... Ranting...
If there was one thing anyone might learn here, I'll say this is it. _________________ Bus Motor Build
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Stuartzickefoose Samba Post Whore
Joined: February 07, 2008 Posts: 10350 Location: SoCal for now...
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 9:51 am Post subject: Re: Broke down in Longview WA. (engine rebuild in progress) |
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notchboy wrote: |
Xevin wrote: |
Stuartzickefoose wrote: |
notchboy wrote: |
Wow. But Id have to admit it fits. |
That’s what you said when you came in last time. |
Just got really uncomfortable in here. |
Familiarity breeds contempt. |
I’m just gonna let that sit in there for now. _________________ Stuart Zickefoose
2011 Jetta Sportwagen TDi 6 speed manual
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Tram Samba Socialist
Joined: May 02, 2003 Posts: 22697 Location: Still Feelin' the Bern- Once you've felt it you can't un- feel it.
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 10:14 am Post subject: Re: Broke down in Longview WA. (engine rebuild in progress) |
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Clatter wrote: |
There was a pretty lively discussion about this subject at the Lucky Lab last week...
A few of us were talking,
And my opinion differed a bit from others in the group.
I was saying how my motor had been in for about ten years now,
And I was going to pull it to do the fuel tank hoses again,
And it would be good to strip it, torque the heads, leak-check and clean.
Several other guys there were like:
"Leave it in, that's a lot of wasted work", "Don't touch it",
Or my old perennial favorite:
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it"..
I really hate "If it ain't broke don't fix it".
What you get when you do that, is exactly what our OP got.
EVERY aircooler i get, immediately gets the motor out for a look-over.
Doing otherwise gets you what our OP got here.
The inch-thick pile of sludge on this motor here shows exactly what happened.
The guy wanted to get out of the first, most-basic, fundamental thing you do with these,
And that is pull the motor, clean it up, and make sure the tin is in place.
Maybe if you stay in town, and have AAA on it,
But not out on a road trip. Not in these times. Maybe in 1987.
Dunno if y'all are just used to seeing motors look like this,
Or you haven't taken any apart yet, or..?
Rear-engined air-cooled cars have this fundamental flaw:
They suck air from behind the vehicle, where all of the dirt gets kicked up by the wheels rolling on the (dirty even if it's paved) road.
If (when) they get oil leaks, the fan and dirt provide a constant supply of oil sludge.
This oil sludge fills up the cooling fins, reducing the motor's ability to cool itself.
FAILING to take your motor out and clean it is akin to failing to keep coolant in the radiator of your water-pumper.
Being involved with the hobby since way back in the 80s,
When these cars were everywhere, and people daily-drove them,
It was always just policy.
A new car comes into your life, first thing you do is take the motor out and check it.
You would never just trust that it was all right and just drive it.
It doesn't work like that. Fools get in there and mess these things up.
This fundamental fact has apparently been lost.
You would see the sorriest motors last a decent amount of time if they were dressed down and tuned.
To get one of these cars, and not even look at it, before taking it on a trip,
You can almost bet what you ae going to get..
Must.... Not... Rant.... Ranting... Ranting...
If there was one thing anyone might learn here, I'll say this is it. |
I prefer the Red Green version:
"If it ain't broke... you're not trying!" _________________ Немає виправдання для війни! Я з Україною.
Bryan67 wrote: |
Just my hands. And a little lube. No tools. |
To best contact me, please use the EMAIL function in my profile |
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timvw7476 Samba Member
Joined: June 03, 2013 Posts: 2182 Location: seattle
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 10:25 am Post subject: Re: Broke down in Longview WA. (engine rebuild in progress) |
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'Definite engine pull, definite engine pull.'-rainman voice.
of course, that's easy for me to type. I've never bought a healthy, running bus. |
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aeromech Samba Member
Joined: January 24, 2006 Posts: 16926 Location: San Diego, California
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 10:40 am Post subject: Re: Broke down in Longview WA. (engine rebuild in progress) |
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Clatter wrote: |
There was a pretty lively discussion about this subject at the Lucky Lab last week...
A few of us were talking,
And my opinion differed a bit from others in the group.
I was saying how my motor had been in for about ten years now,
And I was going to pull it to do the fuel tank hoses again,
And it would be good to strip it, torque the heads, leak-check and clean.
Several other guys there were like:
"Leave it in, that's a lot of wasted work", "Don't touch it",
Or my old perennial favorite:
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it"..
I really hate "If it ain't broke don't fix it".
What you get when you do that, is exactly what our OP got.
EVERY aircooler i get, immediately gets the motor out for a look-over.
Doing otherwise gets you what our OP got here.
The inch-thick pile of sludge on this motor here shows exactly what happened.
The guy wanted to get out of the first, most-basic, fundamental thing you do with these,
And that is pull the motor, clean it up, and make sure the tin is in place.
Maybe if you stay in town, and have AAA on it,
But not out on a road trip. Not in these times. Maybe in 1987.
Dunno if y'all are just used to seeing motors look like this,
Or you haven't taken any apart yet, or..?
Rear-engined air-cooled cars have this fundamental flaw:
They suck air from behind the vehicle, where all of the dirt gets kicked up by the wheels rolling on the (dirty even if it's paved) road.
If (when) they get oil leaks, the fan and dirt provide a constant supply of oil sludge.
This oil sludge fills up the cooling fins, reducing the motor's ability to cool itself.
FAILING to take your motor out and clean it is akin to failing to keep coolant in the radiator of your water-pumper.
Being involved with the hobby since way back in the 80s,
When these cars were everywhere, and people daily-drove them,
It was always just policy.
A new car comes into your life, first thing you do is take the motor out and check it.
You would never just trust that it was all right and just drive it.
It doesn't work like that. Fools get in there and mess these things up.
This fundamental fact has apparently been lost.
You would see the sorriest motors last a decent amount of time if they were dressed down and tuned.
To get one of these cars, and not even look at it, before taking it on a trip,
You can almost bet what you ae going to get..
Must.... Not... Rant.... Ranting... Ranting...
If there was one thing anyone might learn here, I'll say this is it. |
Tcash, can you please make this a sticky? Tim? Oh Tim? Shit _________________ Lead Mechanic: San Diego Air and Space Museum
Licensed Airframe and Powerplant Mechanic
Licensed Pilot (Single engine Land)
Boeing 727,737-200-300-400,757,767
Airbus A319,320,321
DC9/MD80
BAe146
Fokker F28/F100
VW type 1 1962,63,65,69,72
VW Type 2 1971 (3 ea.) 1978, 1969
VW Jetta
VW Passat
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:00 pm Post subject: Re: Broke down in Longview WA. (engine rebuild in progress) |
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… and always remember to remove the axles when towing with the rear wheels on the ground. Buses have an occasionally tendency to slip into gear and toss a rod, thus making a loose valve seat a really big pain. _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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Stuartzickefoose Samba Post Whore
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:18 pm Post subject: Re: Broke down in Longview WA. (engine rebuild in progress) |
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SGKent wrote: |
… and always remember to remove the axles when towing with the rear wheels on the ground. Buses have an occasionally tendency to slip into gear and toss a rod, thus making a loose valve seat a really big pain. |
Forgot to get back to you on that. Told him to pull them before he left and warned him of that happening. Don’t know if he did or not but I did explain that to him. They made it safely to MN night before last so they must have not had any issues! _________________ Stuart Zickefoose
2011 Jetta Sportwagen TDi 6 speed manual
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