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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 4:03 am    Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. Reply with quote

Very nice of you to jump in and help them out! Post some pictures of the autopsy of the engine. I think we're all curious.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 7:43 am    Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. Reply with quote

Stu says he thinks they can do a complete engine rebuild in a week or two. Depending on machine shop.

My customer talked to Brothers Machine. They told him two weeks. Well, itís been close to that and they are still tearing it down. Now the owner is hoping it only take another month.

My point is that these kids are traveling and have a schedule to keep. Their entire trip is going to be ruined because of setbacks that arenít known right now. Thatís why I suggested buying a complete, rebuilt long block.

The problem is finding one ready to go off the shelf. I saw many offers for rebuilt long blocks but I doubt they are built by reputable shops and fully ready to ship.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 9:38 am    Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. Reply with quote

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Got it back to the farm...Looking like we are going to power wash the engine and trans, remove and tear down to the short block and inspect for a proper diagnosis. This guy also happens to be a 11 year master boat mechanic, so between my limited expertise with VWS and where to get parts, and his tools and ability to turn a wrench, Iím guessing we can do a full rebuild in a week or two depending on machine shop turn around time. You guys are treating this like a couple high school girls just blew their engine on their 25k bus...chillax for a bit and let me get some accurate diagnostics done so we can fill you in on the proper details.

Getting the right information can really help to point the finger in the right direction... or in this case, what the next step is.

Itís not like Iím going to use Ketchup And JB WELD to do a quick partial rebuild fix...we will fix it right. Wink



Stu,

I have a long Seattle overnight next Wednesday. I'd love to come out and help if I can, or at least come visit and catch up. Lemme know, I'll pack a set of shop clothes. Same if I'll need a rental car or you can grab me.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:58 am    Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. Reply with quote

You know what an Optimist I am, Stu, but a week turnaround in a shop will require some astrophysics alignment, or a lot of astroglide.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. Reply with quote

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You know what an Optimist I am, Stu, but a week turnaround in a shop will require some astrophysics alignment, or a lot of astroglide.


Dropping everything I have off at NW connecting rod, he said he should have it balanced and returned ready for reassembly by Friday of this next week.

Diagnosis:
Cylinder 1 hole was a little unhappy...
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. Reply with quote

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Diagnosis:
Cylinder 1 hole was a little unhappy...

No shit Shocked slightly more work than a dropped valve Confused
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. Reply with quote

Yeah, looks like it spun a rod bearing and then beat the crap out of the jug/ hole. Ouch!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. Reply with quote

if the crank was blued check the main saddles for warping adjacent to it.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. Reply with quote

Shocked Nope, not driving that back.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. Reply with quote

SGKent wrote:
if the crank was blued check the main saddles for warping adjacent to it.


What's the point? That case is history.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. Reply with quote

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Stu,

This bus looks a lot like Maisy reincarnated..... you sure this nice couple wonít just mysteriously disappear on the farm, while you put in a new engine... now about that ba6 Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. Reply with quote

Holy smokes! Shocked Does the owner have any idea how many miles were on that engine?

What's the deal with the broken case? Do you or the machine shop have another one?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. Reply with quote

Thatís really unfortunate, yet in a somewhat perverted way sort of good. Why? Now there wonít be any Ďcrossed fingers and a Hail Maryí type of enroute repair jobs. You wonít waste a bunch of time trying to scrounge good bearing parts and seals and worrying about setting deck height between two different heads, and Ďmaybeí rebuilt connecting rods.

You get to start with a fresh long block and swap engine management parts and reinstall. Nice!

Pretty cool they still have the thermostat and EGR valve.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 6:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. Reply with quote

Iíll bet someone is burning up his keyboard about now and maybe I should go grab some FedEx stock tomorrow.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 6:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. Reply with quote

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Do you or the machine shop have another one?


Stuart is a ďParts whispererĒ he probably had three or four cases lined up by noon.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 6:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. Reply with quote

Good job Stu, that thing is f'd up.


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Good news is the roadside head option is off the table


That is never good news. I'm married, which means that's been off the table for years....
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 7:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. Reply with quote

Roadside is easy. Keeping a constant speed while staying between the lines is much tougher. At least thatís the way it was 40 years ago
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Good job Stu, that thing is f'd up.


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Good news is the roadside head option is off the table


That is never good news. I'm married, which means that's been off the table for years....


I'd be servin her papers for breakfast...

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 7:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. Reply with quote

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Good job Stu, that thing is f'd up.


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Good news is the roadside head option is off the table


That is never good news. I'm married, which means that's been off the table for years....


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 7:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. Reply with quote

Soo... looking at the dead body on the autopsy table, what's the experts opinions on the mileage that engine had on it?

I'm thinking well over 100k.
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