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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 7:38 am    Post subject: Can't get into reverse! Reply with quote

Hi everyone,

Hopefully not a silly question: The company I work for has recently purchased a VW Camper van and I'm the one responsible for getting it working properly (long story!).

In short, I'm familiar with older/classic vehicles (I drive a '74 Mercedes) but I've never had any experience of VWs. The camper we have is a '72 Bus. It's in fairly decent shape, and will be even more so by the time it's had all the surgery it needs. However, I can't get the darn thing into reverse.

I'm hoping it's not a serious issue. Unless I'm very much mistaken, reverse is below 5th gear, and you need to push down on the gearknob before heading into that direction. Correct?

Every time I try to get reverse I end up getting (I assume) 4th gear instead. To be fair, the shifting is far from on-point on this van...

Any suggestions? Am I missing something really obvious? Thanks!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 7:54 am    Post subject: Re: Can't get into reverse! Reply with quote

There is no 5th gear in a VW Bus, it’s a 4-speed.

To engage reverse you push down on the top of the shifter, then, while holding it down, move the lever full left, then to the rear.

If you DO have five forward gears, then you have some non-stock transmission in there and you will need to find out what it is.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:13 am    Post subject: Re: Can't get into reverse! Reply with quote

Greetings! You came to right place. The Samba Technical Archives has a wealth of free information. Look at the top right pull down menu of this webpage. See the Tab marked Technical? Hover over that. Now it opens up another menu with the words Owner's Manuals. Surf that, and you will find a scanned-in 1972 Type 2 Owner's Manual.

I clicked on the page within there that should help you right:

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/manuals/72bus/72II-36.jpg
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:18 am    Post subject: Re: Can't get into reverse! Reply with quote

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ballenuk wrote:
Hi everyone,

Hopefully not a silly question: The company I work for has recently purchased a VW Camper van and I'm the one responsible for getting it working properly (long story!).

In short, I'm familiar with older/classic vehicles (I drive a '74 Mercedes) but I've never had any experience of VWs. The camper we have is a '72 Bus. It's in fairly decent shape, and will be even more so by the time it's had all the surgery it needs. However, I can't get the darn thing into reverse.

I'm hoping it's not a serious issue. Unless I'm very much mistaken, reverse is below 5th gear, and you need to push down on the gearknob before heading into that direction. Correct?

Every time I try to get reverse I end up getting (I assume) 4th gear instead. To be fair, the shifting is far from on-point on this van...

Any suggestions? Am I missing something really obvious? Thanks!

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:47 am    Post subject: Re: Can't get into reverse! Reply with quote

You guys are amazing. Mystery solved!

Here is the problem:

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Causing great confusion...! I just tested it and sure enough, reverse engages immediately Rolling Eyes Laughing Embarassed
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:50 am    Post subject: Re: Can't get into reverse! Reply with quote

that pic is the only thing that could have redeemed you. When I read 5th gear I wondered what we were dealing with.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:51 am    Post subject: Re: Can't get into reverse! Reply with quote

That is great! They must have just had a knob laying around, good way to confuse shops too when you have to get tires changed.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:53 am    Post subject: Re: Can't get into reverse! Reply with quote

Haha yes, I think the photo was essential to dig myself out of a hole Very Happy

Got to find a suitable replacement now to avoid any more confusion!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:53 am    Post subject: Re: Can't get into reverse! Reply with quote

can someone get this guy the noob data dump? bears are optional. I worry about the oil strainer bolt snapping off and ruining the case
edit -if he has a US model with the flat 4 pancake
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:58 am    Post subject: Re: Can't get into reverse! Reply with quote

Hmm, I'm going to get one of these shifter knobs immediately. Excellent anti-theft device! Cool
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:16 am    Post subject: Re: Can't get into reverse! Reply with quote

oshima wrote:
Hmm, I'm going to get one of these shifter knobs immediately. Excellent anti-theft device! Cool


Totally! Ha!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:23 am    Post subject: Re: Can't get into reverse! Reply with quote

Excellent advice from TCash...
Tcash wrote:
Here is some 72 info
Welcome to TheSamba, Bay Window Bus Forum!

1972 NEWBIE

1972 Bay one year only list
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Every Type IV engine owner should know this!!!

If you over tighten the Oil Strainer bolt, you will brake the engine case!
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There is a Oil strainer in there.
TORQUE THE STRAINER BOLT TO NO MORE THAN 9 FT. LBS.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:48 am    Post subject: Re: Can't get into reverse! Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:53 am    Post subject: Re: Can't get into reverse! Reply with quote

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That's funny Laughing

Looks like a shift knob out of a '90s Nissan.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Can't get into reverse! Reply with quote

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Notice the "H" pattern of the forward gears. Shifting diagonally from 2-3 or 3-2 is a great way to shorten the lifespan of your expensive transaxle.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Can't get into reverse! Reply with quote

pay close attention to that 9 ft lbs on the oil strainer nut. Consequences of going higher can be a trashed engine block. Do not hand tighten. You don't even need to pull that strainer unless you want to inspect the screen.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 2:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Can't get into reverse! Reply with quote

SGKent wrote:
pay close attention to that 9 ft lbs on the oil strainer nut. Consequences of going higher can be a trashed engine block. Do not hand tighten. You don't even need to pull that strainer unless you want to inspect the screen.


yes. yes. yes.

also, don't feel bad at all. The correct shift pattern on the knob, and printed on the dash/ashtray, and some folks still ham-hand it over to the upper right.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 3:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Can't get into reverse! Reply with quote

They are not optional, and when the boss ask why you have a 45k req for car repair you can tell her/ him you researched it o;the internet


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 3:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Can't get into reverse! Reply with quote

sjbartnik wrote:
ballenuk wrote:


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That's funny Laughing


If your Bus came with the rare 5 speed, that knob is all you need to upgrade,

You might have to enable it i the Can Bus software
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 4:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Can't get into reverse! Reply with quote

That is great! Funniest thing I've seen all day!
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