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middlerivermerk Samba Member
Joined: June 25, 2017 Posts: 12 Location: York, Pa
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Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:08 pm Post subject: Engine ID |
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I picked up two engines from a guy cheap and I am trying to I'd one of them. It is a dual port but has a non doghouse fan shroud. No engine number stamp and two oil fills. It is seized so I'm going to tear it down but I would like to know what it came out of if possible. Help appriciated.
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67rustavenger Samba Member
Joined: February 24, 2015 Posts: 9665 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:14 pm Post subject: Re: Engine ID |
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Type3 case with type 1 intakes and shrouds. The oil filler with the breather is type 1 as well.
It's a franken engine.
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Danwvw Samba Member
Joined: July 31, 2012 Posts: 8892 Location: Oregon Coast
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Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 1:14 pm Post subject: Re: Engine ID |
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If it's a Dual Oil Pressure Relief case it would likely also have the 3 holes for the Rear Mount into the later Type 3 or a 1968-71 Bus. And it would be a good engine to build for any bug as well. You can have a Type 1 style dip stick installed and block off the Type 3 dip stick port. Find a Doghouse Shroud, Fan, and oil cooler for it if increasing the performance or running it as a stock Dual Port. Make it a Pre-1971 Single Port if it's not a dual oil pressure relief case. Look at the cylinder studs and see if they are 8mm or 10mm and if they have been inserted as you will need to have that done if not.
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middlerivermerk Samba Member
Joined: June 25, 2017 Posts: 12 Location: York, Pa
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Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 1:30 pm Post subject: Re: Engine ID |
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67rustavenger wrote: |
Type3 case with type 1 intakes and shrouds. The oil filler with the breather is type 1 as well.
It's a franken engine.
Did the 30mm socket get thrown in, in the deal? |
No the 30mm is mine lol |
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middlerivermerk Samba Member
Joined: June 25, 2017 Posts: 12 Location: York, Pa
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Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 1:33 pm Post subject: Re: Engine ID |
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Thanks for the info. Also can you I'd this lever on the back, none of my other engines have this. Could it be for an auto? Similar to a lockdown?
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Danwvw Samba Member
Joined: July 31, 2012 Posts: 8892 Location: Oregon Coast
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Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 1:36 pm Post subject: Re: Engine ID |
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That case looks rough! Type 3 Bell Crank for dual carbs on a Type 3 not for a type 1. _________________ 1960 Beetle And 1679cc DP W-100 & Dual Zeniths! |
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middlerivermerk Samba Member
Joined: June 25, 2017 Posts: 12 Location: York, Pa
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Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 5:06 pm Post subject: Re: Engine ID |
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Thanks danwvw
I tore it down to a long block in going to let it soak with penetrating oil for a week to see if I can get it to spin free. Next up f8r teardown and eval it the bus motor I have. |
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Danwvw Samba Member
Joined: July 31, 2012 Posts: 8892 Location: Oregon Coast
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Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:58 pm Post subject: Re: Engine ID |
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Sometimes you have to hammer a little on the pistons to get the cylinders off but the rings frozen to the cylinder are the only place it should need penetrating oil. _________________ 1960 Beetle And 1679cc DP W-100 & Dual Zeniths! |
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janerick3 Samba Member
Joined: June 04, 2006 Posts: 1879 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 11:08 pm Post subject: Re: Engine ID |
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The cast iron distributor and early fuel pump suggest this is a 1964 1500S block.
The number (0, followed by six digits) is on top of the case. You can ID month and year in the technical section. There may not be a letter "R" present. _________________ Thanks,
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ZENVWDRIVER Samba Member
Joined: November 07, 2008 Posts: 3340 Location: N.E. Oklahoma
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:59 am Post subject: Re: Engine ID |
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... one time, I rebuilt a 1500, but the old pistons were as-one with the cylinder walls and had to cut apart.
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