| Where is your fuel filter ? |
| 1) I don't need one. |
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2% |
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| 2) Under the gas tank. |
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28% |
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| 3) Next to the transmission. |
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42% |
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| 4) In the engine bay between the fuel pump and carburetor. |
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18% |
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| 5) In the engine bay before the fuel pump. |
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8% |
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Cusser
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 Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 5:52 pm Post subject: Re: Where is your fuel filter ? |
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| EverettB wrote: |
Moderator says:
Since it seems like this person wanted to do a poll, let's stick with voting and voting comments and not get into another war over where a filter should be or if you need one since that is well covered in multiple threads.
Thank you. |
I have 2 VWs so don't know how to respond to the poll, which I assume allows one vote.
For my 1970, the all-metal fuel filter is in the trunk, in a box, not used; 1600cc engine.
For my 1971, the all-metal fuel filter is in the engine compartment, between the fuel pump and the Weber carb, 1835cc. It is supported securely, and away from the distributor.
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hitest
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| Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 5:02 pm Post subject: Re: Where is your fuel filter ? |
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| didget69 wrote: |
| sb001 wrote: |
Mine is hanging off the carb inlet, right where it belongs.
I voted #4, because I have independent thought and am not an automaton. Also, I've owned my car since brand new. It's an awesome feeling to know right where it's been its entire life. |
Hmm... not as delivered from Factory. Our '69 Autostick Beetle, bought new by my parents from local dealer then given to me in 1981, never had an additional fuel filter in the engine bay.
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didget69
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| Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 2:42 pm Post subject: Re: Where is your fuel filter ? |
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| sb001 wrote: |
Mine is hanging off the carb inlet, right where it belongs.
I voted #4, because I have independent thought and am not an automaton. Also, I've owned my car since brand new. It's an awesome feeling to know right where it's been its entire life. |
Hmm... not as delivered from Factory. Our '69 Autostick Beetle, bought new by my parents from local dealer then given to me in 1981, never had an additional fuel filter in the engine bay.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:20 am Post subject: Re: Where is your fuel filter ? |
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Only the copper screen in the tank and the filter in the fuel valve with removable base and this for 65 years.
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sb001
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:42 pm Post subject: Re: Where is your fuel filter ? |
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| 67rustavenger wrote: |
A 49 y.o. fuel filter? 
I think it's time for a new one! 
Just sayin. |
Well TBH I think I swapped it out once back around 1987
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67rustavenger 
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:46 pm Post subject: Re: Where is your fuel filter ? |
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| sb001 wrote: |
Mine is hanging off the carb inlet, right where it belongs.
I voted #4, because I have independent thought and am not an automaton. Also, I've owned my car since brand new. It's an awesome feeling to know right where it's been its entire life. |
A 49 y.o. fuel filter?
I think it's time for a new one!
Just sayin.
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Zundfolge1432
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:05 pm Post subject: Re: Where is your fuel filter ? |
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| Looking at poll numbers seems under the car is most popular. The only drawback to that is you have to make an effort to inspect it. I really like the holder I might pony up the 40 bucks and call it a birthday present 😀 |
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busman78
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 6:55 pm Post subject: Re: Where is your fuel filter ? |
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Not the inlet pulling out, the fabled fuel filter being in the engine compartment, inlet pulling out is from lack of care when fuel line was removed for service or replacement the movement of the brass inlet was not detected. I have seen inlets come out without the fuel filter being in that location.
Keep in mind that millions, tens of millions of vehicles were built by other car manufacturers that spent decades on the road with a fuel filter not only in the engine compartment but placed on top of the intake manifold.
Proper maintenance, quality parts and careful installation. Also giving the inlet a rap & tap goes a long way for peace of mind and it will stay in with or without a fuel filter dangling. |
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EverettB
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 5:47 pm Post subject: Re: Where is your fuel filter ? |
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| EverettB wrote: |
Moderator says:
Since it seems like this person wanted to do a poll, let's stick with voting and voting comments and not get into another war over where a filter should be or if you need one since that is well covered in multiple threads.
Thank you. |
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Frodge
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 5:43 pm Post subject: Re: Where is your fuel filter ? |
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| busman78 wrote: |
Currently under the tank right before the electric fuel pump for I do not use the screen in the tank. In years past I have put them between the line exit on the frame horn to the engine compartment with no dragging or ill effects to the fuel pump for most models had metal tabs to hold the fuel line. Never desired one in the engine compartment between the pump and the carb, not for inlets pulling out or fabled safety reasons, to me that area of the engine is already clutteredd with solenoids (later models), coil, pump, distributor, accelerator cable, spark plug wires and just generally too much stuff, too easy to have out of sight out of mind.
The key to any location, none are really wrong, original screens or aftermarket cans, the proper hose with proper clamps and positioned so it can not be easily damaged.
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I don’t think it’s fabled. The weight and motor vibrations loosens the pressed in brass fittings. |
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busman78
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 5:17 pm Post subject: Re: Where is your fuel filter ? |
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Currently under the tank right before the electric fuel pump for I do not use the screen in the tank. In years past I have put them between the line exit on the frame horn to the engine compartment with no dragging or ill effects to the fuel pump for most models had metal tabs to hold the fuel line. Never desired one in the engine compartment between the pump and the carb, not for inlets pulling out or fabled safety reasons, to me that area of the engine is already cluttered with solenoids (later models), coil, pump, distributor, accelerator cable, spark plug wires and just generally too much stuff, too easy to have out of sight out of mind.
The key to any location, none are really wrong, original screens or aftermarket cans, the proper hose with proper clamps and positioned so it can not be easily damaged.
Too simple for two pages of why's. |
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sb001
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:00 pm Post subject: Re: Where is your fuel filter ? |
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Mine is hanging off the carb inlet, right where it belongs.
I voted #4, because I have independent thought and am not an automaton. Also, I've owned my car since brand new. It's an awesome feeling to know right where it's been its entire life.
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Frodge
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:19 pm Post subject: Re: Where is your fuel filter ? |
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| Can’t hurt to have it there. Although my Chevy Rochester 4bbl quadrajets only had the inline filter on the carb where the fuel line fitting was. They would get stopped up once in a while, like every 10 years. I think a filter is a good option. I remember coming over the Verrazano bridge once and the fuel supply would just totally cut out until I cleaned that little filter out. It was similar to the one in the pierburg pumps. Not fun, and I took real good care of that car. |
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vwkirb
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:12 pm Post subject: Re: Where is your fuel filter ? |
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They are a bandaid for a dirty tank, but theres contamination all along the way until it gets in the tank too.
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Zundfolge1432
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:08 pm Post subject: Re: Where is your fuel filter ? |
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| Been mounting the filter alongside the tranny for well over 20 years now no problems noted. Before that up in the engine bay like everyone else. Curious thing I bought a new tank, installed all new hose and a brosol sealed non rebuildable pump w/ no filter and the fuel has been clean. Maybe all these filters are a bandaid for a dirty tank. The absence of a disposable filter cluttering up my engine bay promotes proper feng shui. I am at peace |
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vwkirb
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:07 pm Post subject: Re: Where is your fuel filter ? |
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| Frodge wrote: |
| FullFender wrote: |
Got one before and after the fuel pump under the tank, no issues. A local friend had his single cab split burn down on the side of the highway Saturday   from what is presumed as a fuel line wiggling off in
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The carb inlet?
Tim, I relocated my filter the week I bought my bug in 2005. No issues at all. It doesn’t belong hanging off the carb inlet. I actually just caught a loose carb inlet in my carb 2 summers ago when changing the lines. I slit them and cut them off too. I had Tim at volksbitz thread an inlet in for me. |
IDF/HPMX carbs have a fine screen at the inlet.
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Frodge
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:56 pm Post subject: Re: Where is your fuel filter ? |
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| FullFender wrote: |
Got one before and after the fuel pump under the tank, no issues. A local friend had his single cab split burn down on the side of the highway Saturday from what is presumed as a fuel line wiggling off in
the engine bay |
The carb inlet?
Tim, I relocated my filter the week I bought my bug in 2005. No issues at all. It doesn’t belong hanging off the carb inlet. I actually just caught a loose carb inlet in my carb 2 summers ago when changing the lines. I slit them and cut them off too. I had Tim at volksbitz thread an inlet in for me. |
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vwkirb
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:41 pm Post subject: Re: Where is your fuel filter ? |
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Under the tank, beside the trans, and the integral filters in the carb inlets.
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:15 pm Post subject: Re: Where is your fuel filter ? |
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| Q-Dog wrote: |
My filter is in the fuel pump.  plus the screen in the tank.
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same here- two factory filters seams enough. If I'm working with a serviced tank I'll put a temporary one in line under the tank and remove it as soon as gas is clean- or before SB001 has a total meltdown hissyfit over it's location.
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I wonder what the nut looks like.
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:44 pm Post subject: Re: Where is your fuel filter ? |
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My filter is in the fuel pump. plus the screen in the tank.
(but on my buggy I run one next to the trans because there is no screen in the tank)
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