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JDMbeetle
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 Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 2:14 pm Post subject: new EMPI kadron clones |
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| so after seeing the add on the back of the august 2018 hot VWs magazine for the new empi 40K carbs I wanted to here some of the samba members opinions considering the HPMX (weber clones) and D series (dellorto clones) carbs did well. |
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Lingwendil
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anthax
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| Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 4:04 pm Post subject: Re: new EMPI kadron clones |
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| I'm running 40hpmx, working quite well considering jetting without a wideband. |
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JDMbeetle
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Location: NY
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| Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2018 8:31 pm Post subject: Re: new EMPI kadron clones |
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the empi kadron clones are avalible at cip1 for more money and no special tuning options http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=C13-43-4430
its kind of funny how the chinese made copy costs more than a used set in the classifieds 
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andk5591
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| Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 5:51 am Post subject: Re: new EMPI kadron clones |
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You talking about the 40K Empis? Curious about them as well..
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Lingwendil
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| Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 7:57 am Post subject: Re: new EMPI kadron clones |
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For what the kits cost I'd rather grab a used set, and take a gamble on needing the throttle shafts rebushed. You'll be well served running nicer linkage anyway, and you can find decent sets of carbs for ~$225 pretty frequently. A quick teardown and freshen up and a better linkage arrangement and you're in business.
I love my kadrons, but I wouldn't pay that sort of money for a new set, in my opinion that money is better spent on a pair of IDF style copies. The new sets would need to be about $100-150 cheaper to be an attractive option, IMHO. The twist linkage is a good upgrade, I personally love my CSP linkage setup.
I'm not a hardcore "original or bust" sort of guy, but I have a soft spot for original style Kadrons 
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rockurob
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andk5591
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| Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:15 am Post subject: Re: new EMPI kadron clones |
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Until you spend the money to get a used set in proper working order, the new ones are not that expensive. And I know that Empi has a bad rap, but I have been very happy with their latest HPMX carbs. Have not heard many grumble about them.
And not discounting folks like Kaddie Shack. I have installed several of his sets, but if you know how to set up and tune them, I have gotten comparable performance on off the shelf new ones. Just sayin. And I probably will try a set of the 40Ks next time I need a set.
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Woodie 69 VW woodie (Hot VWs 7/12).
"John's car" 64 VW woodie - The first ever
Maxine 61 Cal-look bug - Cindy's daily driver.
Max - 73 standard Beetle hearse project - For sale
66 bug project - Real patina & Suby conversion
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NoBudgetVWGarage
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| Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:39 am Post subject: Re: new EMPI kadron clones |
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Jeff at The Kaddie Shack has a video up of them putting a pair on Miguels car and running them down the track. Straight outta the box and a slight tune. Seemed to work okay but needed more fine tuning.
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JDMbeetle
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| Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 2:19 pm Post subject: Re: new EMPI kadron clones |
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oops sorry everyone I will fix the link
thanks rockurob!
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