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thegreenroom Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 1:51 pm Post subject: Re: The official Chinese Diesel Heater thread (Webasto Knockoff) |
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Has anyone had any issues with their Glow Plugs / the E-03 error? My heater is quite new and I've only used it a handful of times, but I've already now got an E-03 error which apparently points to a faulty glow plug. I've had a poke around online and apparently, the glowplugs do often break/are a common fault and weak link. Does anyone have any advice regarding this / are there any other better glow plugs that can be used (but also at a reasonable price)? thanks very much,
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vwhammer Samba Member
Joined: May 20, 2006 Posts: 998 Location: Boulder CO.
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Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 2:17 pm Post subject: Re: The official Chinese Diesel Heater thread (Webasto Knockoff) |
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On my oldest heater I do get the E-03 error sometimes when the heater has sat for a while. (At least I think that's what error I get)
I don't know that it is specifically a glow plug error as much as it is a failure to get up to temp issue during start up.
I think usually when mine does it it is because my fuel line has bled off a bit and more or less has to be primed again and I simply did not prime it.
Sometimes I just let it go and it tries the process all over again or I shut it off and turn it back on and it usually fires up the second time once once it has fuel.
I suppose I could sort out why that line bleeds off but it always starts eventually so I don't mess with it.
I have three 8kw heaters functioning as garage heaters.
I will be moving soon and taking the heaters with me so I will get them tuned up for where ever I use them next. _________________ Pretty normal daily driver build
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tristessa Samba Member
Joined: April 07, 2004 Posts: 3992 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 2:22 pm Post subject: Re: The official Chinese Diesel Heater thread (Webasto Knockoff) |
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Genuine Eberspacher glow plug for the D2/D4 Airtronic fits the heater body but you'll need to splice the wiring because the connector is different. Downside is that they cost almost as much as a complete heater does -- almost $90 on Amazon.
The one I have mounted in the camper, I did have to replace the glow plug a couple months after installation, but the replacement (also Chinese) has been working fine ever since. Still, if you go that route order a couple and keep the spare on-board along with the installation tool. Maybe a glow plug screen and temp sensor also. They're cheap enough and don't take much space. |
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Steve M. Samba Member
Joined: July 30, 2013 Posts: 6833 Location: Fort Lauderdale, Fl.
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Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:48 pm Post subject: Re: The official Chinese Diesel Heater thread (Webasto Knockoff) |
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tristessa wrote: |
Genuine Eberspacher glow plug for the D2/D4 Airtronic fits the heater body but you'll need to splice the wiring because the connector is different. |
What a coincidence! _________________ This free advice is worth exactly what you paid for it.
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thegreenroom Samba Member
Joined: June 20, 2013 Posts: 50
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Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:34 pm Post subject: Re: The official Chinese Diesel Heater thread (Webasto Knockoff) |
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That's interesting VWHammer, thanks for the info. Mine certainly also sits a while between operation (often weeks at a time go by before I use it again), and so maybe I need to prime it again like you say? I have only primed it once when I first installed it, and didn't know I might have to do it more often?
Thanks Tristessa, I will have a look for the Eberspacher plugs - that is pricey though |
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jocoman Samba Member
Joined: August 11, 2016 Posts: 427 Location: Ottawa, Canada
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 6:00 am Post subject: Re: The official Chinese Diesel Heater thread (Webasto Knockoff) |
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I have to do the manual prime when the westy has been sitting for a while. Then it starts.
If I don't do the manual prime, it tries to start for like 6-7 minutes and then stops. If i try again it usually will start.
Much easier to do the manual bleed if it has been sitting for a while. _________________ '86 Westfalia 2.0L Zetec
'97 Volvo 850 AWD Turbo
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thegreenroom Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:41 am Post subject: Re: The official Chinese Diesel Heater thread (Webasto Knockoff) |
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Thanks jocoman, that's good to know. It sounds like I need to try priming again, I'm going to do it this morning and will report back. Fingers crossed! |
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thegreenroom Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:57 pm Post subject: Re: The official Chinese Diesel Heater thread (Webasto Knockoff) |
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So I tried priming it (twice) and, unfortunately, no joy. It looks like fuel is going into the unit but it just cuts out with the same E-03 error after trying to start up. I've ordered a glow plug, removal tool, and screen, but it seems very strange for these items to be a problem seeing as though it's a new unit and has only been used a handful of times. |
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vwhammer Samba Member
Joined: May 20, 2006 Posts: 998 Location: Boulder CO.
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erste Samba Member
Joined: March 29, 2013 Posts: 1110 Location: San Francisco
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Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:09 am Post subject: Re: The official Chinese Diesel Heater thread (Webasto Knockoff) |
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vwhammer wrote: |
It's clearly a 3D printed thing |
That’s clearly a MuffMaster.
You think the quiet fuel pump is being modified or it’s just a different off-the-shelf pump? What makes the ticking sound? |
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Zeitgeist 13 Samba Member
Joined: March 05, 2009 Posts: 12115 Location: Port Manteau
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Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:48 am Post subject: Re: The official Chinese Diesel Heater thread (Webasto Knockoff) |
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I added felt filter material to my intake muffler, but I don't even have an exhaust muffler and I really can't hear the heater all that much. I know lots of folks complain about the fuel pump tick, but having an external heater mounting really seems to remove nearly all of the common noise complaints. Seriously, mount your heater outside the van. _________________ Casey--
'89 Bluestar ALH w/12mm Waldo pump, PP764 and GT2052
'01 Weekender --> full camper
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dobryan Samba Member
Joined: March 24, 2006 Posts: 16504 Location: Brookeville, MD
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Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:00 am Post subject: Re: The official Chinese Diesel Heater thread (Webasto Knockoff) |
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FWIW to virtually eliminate all fuel pump noise I used some zip ties to mount the fuel pump bracket to the frame of the bus with a 1/2" thick piece of closed cell foam as a cushion. I cannot even hear the fuel pump from outside the bus now, before (using the supplied bracket) the pump made the body of the bus resonate with the pulses. YMMV. _________________ Dave O
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Howesight Samba Member
Joined: July 02, 2008 Posts: 3274 Location: Vancouver, B.C.
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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:13 am Post subject: Re: The official Chinese Diesel Heater thread (Webasto Knockoff) |
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tristessa wrote: |
Genuine Eberspacher glow plug for the D2/D4 Airtronic fits the heater body but you'll need to splice the wiring because the connector is different. Downside is that they cost almost as much as a complete heater does -- almost $90 on Amazon.
The one I have mounted in the camper, I did have to replace the glow plug a couple months after installation, but the replacement (also Chinese) has been working fine ever since. Still, if you go that route order a couple and keep the spare on-board along with the installation tool. Maybe a glow plug screen and temp sensor also. They're cheap enough and don't take much space. |
Hey Tristessa:
I have the 2KW CDH from the Amazon seller "Happybuy" (love those names!). I have been trying to find a seller that carries the glow plug my CDH came with and also a fuel pump. Where did you source your spares?
I reckon that with a spare fuel pump and a couple spare glow plugs, I shold never have a failure in the field that I can't repair. FWIW, I run a 50/50 mix of diesel and kerosene which seems to work well. _________________ '86 Syncro Westy SVX |
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erste Samba Member
Joined: March 29, 2013 Posts: 1110 Location: San Francisco
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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:16 pm Post subject: Re: The official Chinese Diesel Heater thread (Webasto Knockoff) |
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Howesight wrote: |
I reckon that with a spare fuel pump and a couple spare glow plugs, I shold never have a failure in the field that I can't repair. FWIW, I run a 50/50 mix of diesel and kerosene which seems to work well. |
Might pick up some atomizer screens too |
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DigiMatrix Samba Member
Joined: April 20, 2010 Posts: 450 Location: Up North Canada
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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:51 pm Post subject: Re: The official Chinese Diesel Heater thread (Webasto Knockoff) |
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Howesight wrote: |
I have the 2KW CDH from the Amazon seller "Happybuy" (love those names!). |
Howesight, just wondering if you know if your heater is compatible with the "Afterburner" controller? Also did you buy the one with LCD or smart switch control?
I have a 5 kw heater but I am thinking of switching to the 2kw one as I don't think I need the 5 kw size from what I have read. |
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Howesight Samba Member
Joined: July 02, 2008 Posts: 3274 Location: Vancouver, B.C.
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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:50 pm Post subject: Re: The official Chinese Diesel Heater thread (Webasto Knockoff) |
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Erste:
Thanks for the link. That seller has screens AND glowplugs. Works for me.
Digimatrix:
I got the 2000kw unit because, I hoped, it would be compatible with the Afterburner. It might be compatible, but I have not "looked under the hood" yet to see the control board.
Here is the Amazon link to the one I got:
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07JZCJ563/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
The items in the pics, including the pic of the LCD controller, are the ones I actually received. So far, I am pleased. I did buy a true Webasto muffler which came to half the price of the CDH. I tested the CDH on some cold nights, leaving the van parked on the driveway - - no issues to date. _________________ '86 Syncro Westy SVX |
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DigiMatrix Samba Member
Joined: April 20, 2010 Posts: 450 Location: Up North Canada
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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:03 pm Post subject: Re: The official Chinese Diesel Heater thread (Webasto Knockoff) |
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Howesight wrote: |
Erste:
Thanks for the link. That seller has screens AND glowplugs. Works for me.
Digimatrix:
I got the 2000kw unit because, I hoped, it would be compatible with the Afterburner. It might be compatible, but I have not "looked under the hood" yet to see the control board.
Here is the Amazon link to the one I got:
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07JZCJ563/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
The items in the pics, including the pic of the LCD controller, are the ones I actually received. So far, I am pleased. I did buy a true Webasto muffler which came to half the price of the CDH. I tested the CDH on some cold nights, leaving the van parked on the driveway - - no issues to date. |
Thanks for the info - that link says it's a 5kw one. That is why I hate these heaters - too easy to think you are buying the right one. Even one of the HappyBuy 2kw heaters (in the title) says 3kw in the details and is the size of the 5kw heaters |
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tristessa Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:52 pm Post subject: Re: The official Chinese Diesel Heater thread (Webasto Knockoff) |
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If I'm in somewhat of a hurry for spares, Amazon or eBay, if I'm not then aliexpress or banggood for better pricing. |
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JEL91Westy Samba Member
Joined: December 04, 2020 Posts: 211 Location: Central PA
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 4:54 pm Post subject: Re: The official Chinese Diesel Heater thread (Webasto Knockoff) |
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Sorry If I missed it in this long thread, but has anyone come up with a good way to heat the water in the water tank using the CDH? _________________ 91 Westy
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joyfulpursuit Samba Member
Joined: January 23, 2021 Posts: 50 Location: Western Washington
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:48 pm Post subject: Re: The official Chinese Diesel Heater thread (Webasto Knockoff) |
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