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mr matt Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 6:02 am Post subject: What is the purpose of this threaded hole under the side window? |
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Opening the back hatch of my camper, hole is on the right ( passenger side) and the hole is threaded. Looks like factory
Thanks
Matt _________________ 1955 3-fold semaphore Oval beetle
1971 Convertible beetle
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richparker Samba Member
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Starbucket Samba Member
Joined: April 30, 2007 Posts: 4025 Location: WA
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Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 7:29 am Post subject: Re: What is the purpose of this threaded hole? |
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That's where you bolt the sign that says "RELAX, you're behind a VW Bus". |
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alman72 Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 7:44 am Post subject: Re: What is the purpose of this threaded hole? |
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upper mount point for a over shoulder seat belt?
edit-mount point for the BRACKET for the over the shoulder seat belt |
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white74westy Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 7:49 am Post subject: Re: What is the purpose of this threaded hole? |
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mr matt wrote: |
Opening the back hatch of my camper, hole is on the right ( passenger side) and the hole is threaded. Looks like factory
Thanks
Matt |
Now that you know where to put your stash and how to relax...
I think this might answer your question:
In some parts of the world, this helped provide an anchoring point to mount a 3-point seatbelt.
Hope that helps.
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Stuartzickefoose Samba Post Whore
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Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:07 am Post subject: Re: What is the purpose of this threaded hole? |
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Why have I never seen that seat belt bracket when people post “how do I install my car seat” ?
Rich- that was going to be my first response too _________________ Stuart Zickefoose
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mr matt Samba Member
Joined: May 26, 2005 Posts: 819 Location: southeast Pa
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Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:28 am Post subject: Re: What is the purpose of this threaded hole? |
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Thanks 74Westy,
Would not need the hole threaded to place any stash.. unless I bolt it up I guess.....
Yours may be the best explanation... however the hole is farther back behind the seat.. almost 5 inches … which may be applicable to a 77 bus... seems like the hole for yours is much closer (?)
For a camper, would just be on one side I guess....
Matt _________________ 1955 3-fold semaphore Oval beetle
1971 Convertible beetle
1977 Westfalia, FI, Berlin interior |
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rsbadura Samba Member
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KentABQ Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:54 am Post subject: Re: What is the purpose of this threaded hole? |
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Decoding your M-plate should provide a clue of its purpose. _________________ -Kent-
1976 Riviera, 1.8l FI chrome yellow VAN - "Chloe"
"I must say, how can you be in a bad mood driving this vehicle full of vibrant color.
Cars of today are so bland in comparison. It's like driving a celebration!" ---WildIdea
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vwwestyman Samba Member
Joined: April 24, 2004 Posts: 5688 Location: Manhattan, Kansas, USA
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Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:55 am Post subject: Re: What is the purpose of this threaded hole? |
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mr matt wrote: |
Thanks 74Westy,
Would not need the hole threaded to place any stash.. unless I bolt it up I guess.....
Yours may be the best explanation... however the hole is farther back behind the seat.. almost 5 inches … which may be applicable to a 77 bus... seems like the hole for yours is much closer (?)
For a camper, would just be on one side I guess....
Matt |
I think the relative spacing of the hole to the seat owes to the angle of the Westy seat back vs a stock seat back. _________________ Dave Cook
President, Wild Westerner Club
1978 Champagne Edition Westy, repowered to '97 Jetta TDI
1973 Wild Westerner
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white74westy Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 9:00 am Post subject: Re: What is the purpose of this threaded hole? |
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mr matt wrote: |
Thanks 74Westy,
Would not need the hole threaded to place any stash.. unless I bolt it up I guess.....
Yours may be the best explanation... however the hole is farther back behind the seat.. almost 5 inches … which may be applicable to a 77 bus... seems like the hole for yours is much closer (?)
For a camper, would just be on one side I guess....
Matt |
In fairness, I grabbed the picture out of the gallery as just one of the options. As rsbadura has shown, there is more than one way to achieve the result. The image I posted is what was used in Australia, to meet the road requirements of the country, specific to providing proper seat belts for passengers in the rear of the bus. I suspect that image was from a transporter and not a campmobile. I have one and I'm in the process of trying to figure out a way to make it usable for both sides of the Westy. As you have eluded to, it will not fit behind the cabinetry otherwise. It may be a while, but I have a couple of ideas I'm working though. |
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white74westy Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 9:03 am Post subject: Re: What is the purpose of this threaded hole? |
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KentPS wrote: |
Decoding your M-plate should provide a clue of its purpose. |
I don't think so. I think it became part of the manufacturing process at some point. I'm not sure what year they started to appear, but I think you'll find they're in all buses from that point forward. I could be wrong and don't mind standing corrected if someone has information to the contrary.
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vwwestyman Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 9:13 am Post subject: Re: What is the purpose of this threaded hole? |
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I've seen where people have cut slots in the cabinetry on the driver side for the seatbelt to pass through. I've seen this in both the Vanagon and Bus forums.
I do have to wonder if the force of a person's body pulling against the cabinet may dislodge it and cause further or different problems. I guess I'd think carefully about how to mount it and angles involved.
Perhaps one could remove the door (or drive with the door open when using that belt) and it could just come through the door opening without really contacting the cabinet. _________________ Dave Cook
President, Wild Westerner Club
1978 Champagne Edition Westy, repowered to '97 Jetta TDI
1973 Wild Westerner
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white74westy Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 9:20 am Post subject: Re: What is the purpose of this threaded hole? |
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vwwestyman wrote: |
I've seen where people have cut slots in the cabinetry on the driver side for the seatbelt to pass through. I've seen this in both the Vanagon and Bus forums.
I do have to wonder if the force of a person's body pulling against the cabinet may dislodge it and cause further or different problems. I guess I'd think carefully about how to mount it and angles involved.
Perhaps one could remove the door (or drive with the door open when using that belt) and it could just come through the door opening without really contacting the cabinet. |
I've had similar thoughts about the interference between the cabinet and the belt. It has been a while since I've looked at any of this, and unfortunately it is way down on the list. However, as you mentioned, I think my solution may involve using the original hole, in conjunction with some sort of "extension". |
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mr matt Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 12:51 pm Post subject: Re: What is the purpose of this threaded hole under the side window? |
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Thanks rsbadura, one more thing I learned about the bus! - good to know & thanks for the link, very informative.
white74westy; would be very interesting to see what you come up with.. whenever you get to it...
Have not looked, but guessing the shoulder-lap belt is hard to find
Matt _________________ 1955 3-fold semaphore Oval beetle
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ImAddicted Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 7:03 pm Post subject: Re: What is the purpose of this threaded hole? |
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my June 1979 built US-market transporter doesn't have that threaded insert.
white74westy wrote: |
KentPS wrote: |
Decoding your M-plate should provide a clue of its purpose. |
I don't think so. I think it became part of the manufacturing process at some point. I'm not sure what year they started to appear, but I think you'll find they're in all buses from that point forward. I could be wrong and don't mind standing corrected if someone has information to the contrary.
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_________________ 1979 Transporter (sold)
KC1MUR
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SGKent Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 7:05 pm Post subject: Re: What is the purpose of this threaded hole under the side window? |
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usually that area is covered in headliner material. On mine it was under the headliner material, one could feel the indent. _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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tommu Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 11:02 am Post subject: Re: What is the purpose of this threaded hole? |
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Did you have have all three threaded holes? I have only the one in the picture - and the same bracket as you to install. _________________ |
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SGKent Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 11:30 am Post subject: Re: What is the purpose of this threaded hole? |
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tommu wrote: |
Did you have have all three threaded holes? I have only the one in the picture - and the same bracket as you to install. |
sometimes it has a plastic headed screw plug in it. _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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mr matt Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 12:19 pm Post subject: Re: What is the purpose of this threaded hole under the side window? |
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Is that vertical bracket available? I have not seen it _________________ 1955 3-fold semaphore Oval beetle
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