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compositecrafters
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Wanted to rebuild this engine for my wife’s 65 vw bug, but not sure of the motor size?
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compositecrafters
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mukluk
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| Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 8:37 pm Post subject: Re: Need help identifying this motor |
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Originally a 1200 40hp engine, the only certain way to tell what it is now is to measure the bore and stroke.
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tasb
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| Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 9:19 pm Post subject: Re: Need help identifying this motor |
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Ancillary parts such as distributor, carburetor, air filter still say that it could be a 40 hp, 1200. The generator reveals that it's still 6 volts.
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EVfun
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| Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 9:59 pm Post subject: Re: Need help identifying this motor |
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The intake ports appear to go strait down into the head, so it appears to be a 1200cc 40 horse engine. The block number agrees, it looks like a factory stamping and the number dates to September 1964 (1965 model year.) It might have a big bore kit in it to bump it to 1400cc.
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compositecrafters
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| Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2018 4:51 am Post subject: Re: Need help identifying this motor |
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Thank you, I’m going to start taking it apart to see if everything looks ok, I’m not sure if the 1200 get cracks behind #3 or not. I want to boost it up so it has a bit more power. Not sure if there’s a way to put Daul ports heads on it. Or maybe just some mild single port head mods and a small cam.
I could just put a larger engine in it but I want to see what I can do with this small 1200 as a challenge for fun. I’m not worried about the cost it’s more about how or if I could get it to zip down the road. I am thinking a efi system for easy starts and smooth running.
My goal is more authority in power but I’m not taking about a race motor, just a smooth power band, it’s for my wife car I’m restoring for her.
So EFI done correctly with the stock air cleaner, maybe converted with a air filter or foam inside. I like the looks of this style of engine. |
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Sharp64
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| Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2018 6:56 am Post subject: Re: Need help identifying this motor |
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Maybe check the vintage speed forum here. The performance section will have you building a 2 liter with a turbo.
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Sqrbckguy38
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| Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2018 8:08 am Post subject: Re: Need help identifying this motor |
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| Sharp64 wrote: |
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Agreed, I would say a 1600 would be wonderful enough for it, it's what I put in my 67 in a mostly stock form and I love it. Though I'm building a more period correct single port with a set of Kads though for mine. Good luck with the build.
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bugheadred
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| Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2018 9:45 am Post subject: Re: Need help identifying this motor |
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| in the first pic it looks like they used red silicone to seal the case halves just so you know that is a bad thing and if you split the case that is not what you should use |
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compositecrafters
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| Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2018 5:53 pm Post subject: Re: Need help identifying this motor |
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| What sort of power do you think I could get from a mild built 1200 with a single EFI setup |
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tasb
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| Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2018 5:57 pm Post subject: Re: Need help identifying this motor |
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Sounds like you should just go with a 1600, cheaper easier to get parts for.
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