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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 2:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Camper interior build on a 64 Kombi Reply with quote

Sound deadener and insulation arrived.

Picked Kilmat as it was cheep and lighter than others while sill having good performance. 50 sqft box.

The insulation is double sided foil bubble wrap stuff . It is very light and waterproof. They clamed it is r8 but I am sceptical. Smile

Will put 3 layers where possible as its is only 1/4" and I will have lots leftover anyway. 400 sqft role

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 2:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Camper interior build on a 64 Kombi Reply with quote

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Install the usual springs that sit between the door and the back of the wooden panel and you should be fine I'd think.


Much too stiff for the spring to do any good. The panel starts to bend at the latch so to push it out the panel has to bend in two directions. I am going to try a thinner spacer and see if it will come out close enough without bowing the panel.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 2:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Camper interior build on a 64 Kombi Reply with quote

Fitted the rear corner panels. That was a pain.

I made a spacer for top that jammed over the lip. The panel holds it tight front and back and keeps the panel straight. Panel likes to bow slightly in the middle so may try gluing a stiffener to back at mid height.

Left panel assembled. I placed a plastic bag under the seam so I wouldn't glue to the "bench". Screwed a block to each end of the bench so the panel had a slight bow up. Positioned some plywood for backing so it would avoid the wall structure. After placing the clamps I pushed the panel flat forcing the seam together then tightened the clamps.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 6:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Camper interior build on a 64 Kombi Reply with quote

Left wall fitted.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 8:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Camper interior build on a 64 Kombi Reply with quote

I created some drawings of my panels. These are my own creations and do not match Westy panels. The PDFs are 1:8 scale but PDFs often don't print correct scale. You could try printing 1:1 scale but check the dimensions after. Can also download the model in different formats...

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Door panel
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/ummu1n7eql95ynp/DoorPanel.pdf
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Front cargo door panel
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/tk3hpxd106vt7ub/FrontCargoDoorPanel.pdf
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Front ceiling panel
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/wfmn2gcyj35xy2u/FrontCelingPanel.pdf
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https://a360.co/2T7JgXq

Front kick panel
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/c7bnojrzq7wucix/FrontKickPanel.pdf
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Front left kick panel
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/scjvwgvuo4fahou/FrontLeftKickPanel.pdf
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Hatch panel
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/eiqgxx8mapalr2v/HarchPanel.pdf
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Left wall panel
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/yc0rj9edjzefftc/LeftWallPanel.pdf
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Mid ceiling panel
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/zit4uxtky30uwlb/MidCelingPanel.pdf
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Rear cargo door panel
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/0o2liac3hjwzxmp/RearCargoDoorPanel.pdf
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Rear ceiling panel
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/wkdja7nx0bizgyd/RearCelingPanel.pdf
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Rear corner panel
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/ibp7404prkw9cm2/RearCornerPanel.pdf
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Right wall panel
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/8y5n38k7iqni3zp/RightWallPanel.pdf
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:01 am    Post subject: Re: Camper interior build on a 64 Kombi Reply with quote

Wow, this is amazing. I will be doing this at some point soon(ish) and this will save me hours of work and frustration i am sure. Thank you so much for your efforts on this.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 2:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Camper interior build on a 64 Kombi Reply with quote

Placed the rear ceiling panel. Took a few tries to get in place.

Added some 3/4"x1" spacers on the sides to get the panel to go into place. Just placed them in but will glue them in place so they can't move. Had to taper the rear spacer some.

Added the spacers to the drawings.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 8:32 am    Post subject: Re: Camper interior build on a 64 Kombi Reply with quote

Very nice work! What kind of finish are you putting on the panels? Those ceiling panel drawing will come in handy for making the panels for my '60. I may even be able to use the rear corner panel drawings as well.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 10:19 am    Post subject: Re: Camper interior build on a 64 Kombi Reply with quote

Joey wrote:
Very nice work! What kind of finish are you putting on the panels? Those ceiling panel drawing will come in handy for making the panels for my '60. I may even be able to use the rear corner panel drawings as well.


Amber shellac. I tried a bunch of stains to make it look like old finish but all just looked fake. The amber shellac will age quickly and look natural.

I will finish both side of all panels and use plastic on the back of lower panels to prevent water damage. Shellac is not water proof but easily repaired.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 10:46 am    Post subject: Re: Camper interior build on a 64 Kombi Reply with quote

Your panels are looking good! Thank you for sharing the drawings. Although I wish you had made metric measurements. Embarassed

I would use a waterproof lacquer instead. Birch tends to get black mold stains when it gets moist. Condensing moisture is enough to cause this to happen.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 1:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Camper interior build on a 64 Kombi Reply with quote

mdege wrote:
Your panels are looking good! Thank you for sharing the drawings. Although I wish you had made metric measurements. Embarassed

I would use a waterproof lacquer instead. Birch tends to get black mold stains when it gets moist. Condensing moisture is enough to cause this to happen.



Thanks. I will add metric dims to the imperial ones. Just a setting. I was thinking of doing that anyway.

Shellac should protect the wood from mold unless it is continualy wet. Plastic or waterproof backing should prevent that. I dont like how any of the lacquers look. Just too clear and I havent had luck with stains...
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 2:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Camper interior build on a 64 Kombi Reply with quote

I really hope Shellac will do the trick for you. It would be a real pity if the nice wood and your work is ruined by moisture.

My workbench sat in an open shed for a winter. The original varnish I used was wax based and did not hold up to the moisture which condensed on the wood when the weather changed from cold and dry to warmer and moister.

You can see the difference between the left side, the drawer fronts were added later and I used boat lacquer on them. The top right panel still has the original wax varnish on it and the door on the bottom right had the same problem as the panel above. But it was sanded down and lacquered with the boat lacquer. Unfortunately I was not able to get rid of the stains completely.

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Now you can argue, that the would is thick and stays moist longer because it need time to acclimate to the temperature change. But, the sides are made of 6mm birch plywood and they have the same stains.

The waterproof lacquer really makes a difference. I don't have any experience with Shellac, except for what I remember from old valve radios. The shellac tends to crack when the wood gets moist and thus the finish get ruined and the wood is not protected any more.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 2:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Camper interior build on a 64 Kombi Reply with quote

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I will add metric dims to the imperial ones.


Thank you that will be a real help. Saves me the recalculation of all of the measurements Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 5:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Camper interior build on a 64 Kombi Reply with quote

New plan. Couple layers of amber shellac then a layer of dewaxed shellac then whipe on poly for water proof.

Should give me the color and be waterproof. I will try it on some scraps.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 3:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Camper interior build on a 64 Kombi Reply with quote

Wife started working on the all important bus quilt. Smile

Will be 30 random color blocks making it 86"x91" when done. Definitely going to brighten up the bus inside. Smile

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 7:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Camper interior build on a 64 Kombi Reply with quote

Intricate beyond belief. Each piece of the bus is seamed?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 7:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Camper interior build on a 64 Kombi Reply with quote

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Intricate beyond belief. Each piece of the bus is seamed?


The bus is applique. Parts are layered and stitched around the edge.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 11:14 am    Post subject: Re: Camper interior build on a 64 Kombi Reply with quote

Oh emm gee.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 11:48 am    Post subject: Re: Camper interior build on a 64 Kombi Reply with quote

That quilt is seriously awesome.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 1:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Camper interior build on a 64 Kombi Reply with quote

Finally got the drivers kick panel to fit. Apparently when I installed the vent tube I had it rotated just slightly so the panel doesn't lay perfect. Not really noticeable though.

Forgot I had some 3/4" fiberglass reinforced foam board so made my spacers out of it instead of plywood. It is very light and waterproof.

Glued a stiffener on the back of the rear corner panels. Hoping it makes them lay a little nicer.
Edit: Stiffener did not work out so I removed them.

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