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SatireChuck
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 Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 8:57 am Post subject: Bare Metal Bay Window 1971 (How can I do this?) |
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Hey guys,
My name is Chuck and I joined several years ago and have been reading and enjoying everyone's posts and advice and adventures. I have just obtained my first VW Van and am starting my Restoration next month on my vacation. I really REALLY love the look of bare metal. I know it's difficult. I know not everyone likes the bare metal look! I know some people hate it. I love it and want to keep it in bare metal.
But I really need advice here please.
How can I keep my '71 Bay Window bus in bare metal without it rusting immediately? Could you please offer advice on how I can make this work?
Thank you kindly!
--Brother Chuck
Not my photos, but this is the look I'm interested in:
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Wasted youth
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Location: California's Hot and Smoggy Central Valley
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| Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:13 am Post subject: Re: Bare Metal Bay Window 1971 (How can I do this?) |
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| Seems like clear coat would work for that. |
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SGKent 
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Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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| Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:33 am Post subject: Re: Bare Metal Bay Window 1971 (How can I do this?) |
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try asking over in the Body/Paint forum https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewforum.php?f=13
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TDCTDI
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| Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:36 am Post subject: Re: Bare Metal Bay Window 1971 (How can I do this?) |
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| SatireChuck wrote: |
Could you please offer advice on how I can make this work?
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Move to Arizona.
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71whitewesty
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| Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:52 am Post subject: Re: Bare Metal Bay Window 1971 (How can I do this?) |
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I really dig the stripes on your bus now. Those are pure gold. 
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Sloride
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Zed999
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| Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:54 am Post subject: Re: Bare Metal Bay Window 1971 (How can I do this?) |
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I hope you don't find a patchwork of crash repair welding and bondo.  |
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buckswilde
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| Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:24 am Post subject: Re: Bare Metal Bay Window 1971 (How can I do this?) |
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Gibbs Brand Lubricant - Hot Rod folks use it on their bare metal cars with great results. Just rub it on.
http://www.gibbsbrandlubricant.com/ |
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Sloride
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aeromech
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| Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:10 pm Post subject: Re: Bare Metal Bay Window 1971 (How can I do this?) |
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You can build it out of alclad aluminum like Boeing does
Then all you have to do is keep it polished
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alclad
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Mispeld
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| Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:17 pm Post subject: Re: Bare Metal Bay Window 1971 (How can I do this?) |
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I dig the stripes too. And you can name it Charlie
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babysnakes
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| Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:15 pm Post subject: Re: Bare Metal Bay Window 1971 (How can I do this?) |
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| Take a piece of old sheet metal, bring out the shine, give it a once over with Ospho then clear coat and see if you like the finish. |
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Malokin Martin
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| Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 5:19 pm Post subject: Re: Bare Metal Bay Window 1971 (How can I do this?) |
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| Clear coat |
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SatireChuck
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| Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 11:53 am Post subject: Re: Bare Metal Bay Window 1971 (How can I do this?) |
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I have had more than a few people suggest I try a product called GIBBS, after I have the bare metal ready, cleaned and dry then I apply GIBBS.
Anyone have experience with this product? 
--Brother Chuck
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1971 VW Bus (Currently under restoration) |
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SGKent
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| Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 12:31 pm Post subject: Re: Bare Metal Bay Window 1971 (How can I do this?) |
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lots of folks. It was designed for aluminum and magnesium which also oxidize. Just apply to steel on a regular schedule. If you want something more permanent several folks recommended painting with a clear coat.
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Wasted youth
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| Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 1:07 pm Post subject: Re: Bare Metal Bay Window 1971 (How can I do this?) |
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Seven cans of 3M Super 77 and twelve boxes of Reynolds Wrap. Hand rub out the wrinkles before the adhesive sets.
Done. |
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SatireChuck
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| Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:24 am Post subject: Re: Bare Metal Bay Window 1971 (How can I do this?) |
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The more people I speak with who have bare metal VW buses, the more I’m hearing Rust can form very easily under the clear coating and spread in a matter of days.
Any recommendations on how to fight that from happening? I’m NOT a rust expert so I appreciate the guidance.
—Brother Chuck
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1971 VW Bus (Currently under restoration) |
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Wildthings
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| Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:56 am Post subject: Re: Bare Metal Bay Window 1971 (How can I do this?) |
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| Find someone with a spray metal welder and have them spray your rig with zinc and the clear coat it. |
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skills@eurocarsplus
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| Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 8:29 am Post subject: Re: Bare Metal Bay Window 1971 (How can I do this?) |
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| SatireChuck wrote: |
The more people I speak with who have bare metal VW buses, the more I’m hearing Rust can form very easily under the clear coating and spread in a matter of days.
Any recommendations on how to fight that from happening? I’m NOT a rust expert so I appreciate the guidance.
—Brother Chuck |
there is no way to stop it. clear coat is NOT a sealant like epoxy primer is. lots of science here that I don't have time to type but clear will not stop the spread of any of it.
some guys rub them down with oils (linseed) but that has to be done all the time....and good luck getting paint to ever stick properly if you go that route
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TomWesty
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| Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 8:41 am Post subject: Re: Bare Metal Bay Window 1971 (How can I do this?) |
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| SatireChuck wrote: |
The more people I speak with who have bare metal VW buses, the more I’m hearing Rust can form very easily under the clear coating and spread in a matter of days.
Any recommendations on how to fight that from happening? I’m NOT a rust expert so I appreciate the guidance.
—Brother Chuck |
there is no way to stop it. clear coat is NOT a sealant like epoxy primer is. lots of science here that I don't have time to type but clear will not stop the spread of any of it.
some guys rub them down with oils (linseed) but that has to be done all the time....and good luck getting paint to ever stick properly if you go that route |
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