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notchboy Samba Member
Joined: April 27, 2002 Posts: 22448 Location: Escondido CA
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:06 pm Post subject: Re: Restoration of a former '65 firetruck (21F) |
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BulliBill wrote: |
virtanen wrote: |
They are very easy to install by 2 big screw drivers, only 2 seconds work
Maybe I will need to make a presentation how to make it. |
Yes Mika! A video of you explaining that and showing how you do it would be a great help to all of us out here. I don't think a video exists explaining it. Thanks!
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Finally an explanation!!
Link
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Jason "notchboy" Weigel
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virtanen Samba Member
Joined: January 08, 2006 Posts: 1461 Location: Finland
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:43 am Post subject: Re: Restoration of a former '65 firetruck (21F) |
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I took couple of pics.
It was too easy just push the rubber on the other end
Turn the rubber like this
Put it correct way on the tube flange
Push two long flat head screw drivers so the the ends are behind the tube
Then just let it go easily
Then just turn the rubber correct way back. Ready!
_________________ Mika
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Fifty-Eight Rag Samba Member
Joined: September 07, 2011 Posts: 936 Location: St. Louis, MO
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mdege Samba Member
Joined: January 16, 2018 Posts: 939 Location: Niederkruechten, Germany
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mdege Samba Member
Joined: January 16, 2018 Posts: 939 Location: Niederkruechten, Germany
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 10:29 am Post subject: Re: Restoration of a former '65 firetruck (21F) |
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I finished rebuilding one of the heater silencers. I sand blasted the parts inside and out. Then I welded up the holes and replaced the ends on the side with the adapter from 50 mm to 62 mm.
All parts are basically ready for reassembly, but this time I am going to paint the inside.
Then I made two more tools.
1. VW 690 "Installing Device for Rear Axel Shaft Ball Bearing"
2. VW 681 "Extractor Lever for Main Drive Shaft Oil Seal"
I am also almost ready to put the rear axle back together. I cleaned everything installed most of the bearings. Sorry no more pictures yet. I will make some before putting everything together.
I do wonder if it would make sense to flip the drive shafts from left to right, because there is some visible wear on the paddles. Any thoughts on that? Both sets of drive shafts which I have show the same type of wear.
I am sure it'll do many more km if I install it on the same side, but if I switch sides the wear would be more even. _________________ - Michael
1965 21F: Restoration of a former '65 firetruck
1963 Typ3 Notchback project
1988 Multivan Magnum 112i
1984 Standard: My son wanted a bug for his first car |
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BarryL Samba Member
Joined: November 01, 2004 Posts: 14258 Location: Casa de Oro, California
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 11:56 am Post subject: Re: Restoration of a former '65 firetruck (21F) |
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mdege wrote: |
I do wonder if it would make sense to flip the drive shafts from left to right, because there is some visible wear on the paddles. Any thoughts on that? Both sets of drive shafts which I have show the same type of wear...
I am sure it'll do many more km if I install it on the same side, but if I switch sides the wear would be more even. |
According to transmission guys I've talked to you can do it. Put the same fulcrum faces that were with each face along with the switch in the same relationship. |
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mdege Samba Member
Joined: January 16, 2018 Posts: 939 Location: Niederkruechten, Germany
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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:59 am Post subject: Re: Restoration of a former '65 firetruck (21F) |
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Some more progress. Finished the transaxle. I decided to swap the drive shafts and the differential gear that goes with it from left to right. That way I will put less wear on the already worn paddle.
Today I made a new set of tools to pull apart the kingpins. This worked nicely and I was very please to see, that the parts had survived the last couple of decades since I had to replace them in the 1990ies.
_________________ - Michael
1965 21F: Restoration of a former '65 firetruck
1963 Typ3 Notchback project
1988 Multivan Magnum 112i
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LAGrunthaner Samba Member
Joined: March 18, 2007 Posts: 5506 Location: 1st Coast
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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:59 pm Post subject: Re: Restoration of a former '65 firetruck (21F) |
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mdege, looking great, I like your homemade tool too! _________________ American Red Cross Safe And Well:
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Have you considered simply starting with a nicer bus? I don't know what your skills are, but the race is easier if you can see the finish line. If you are not a runner, don't start off doing a marathon. |
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Schwing Samba Member
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mdege Samba Member
Joined: January 16, 2018 Posts: 939 Location: Niederkruechten, Germany
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Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:19 am Post subject: Re: Restoration of a former '65 firetruck (21F) |
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Swissbulli asked me about the tool to line-up the spindles when pressing them back together again. Therefore I decided to get it done. Turns out it took me longer, than I had anticipated.
I used 20mm square tubing and I figured, that i would get a slot 20mm wide to guide the 20mm round stock to keep the kingpins from twisting.
Cutting the tubes:
I welded the tubes together like this:
It turned out, that the tubes warped slightly and the slot was just too tight for the 20mm diameter round bar.
I had to fix that using my trusty old mill:
Tomorrow I will weld the parts together like this:
_________________ - Michael
1965 21F: Restoration of a former '65 firetruck
1963 Typ3 Notchback project
1988 Multivan Magnum 112i
1984 Standard: My son wanted a bug for his first car |
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mdege Samba Member
Joined: January 16, 2018 Posts: 939 Location: Niederkruechten, Germany
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swiss_bulli Samba Member
Joined: February 17, 2017 Posts: 123 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 1:31 am Post subject: Re: Restoration of a former '65 firetruck (21F) |
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Cool stuff! I will try to adapt your style of the tool too. I also thought about having two square profiles as guide for the rods. Unfortunately I do not own or have access to a nice mill like you do. But if I put the round rods in while welding it could help against wrapping. Or I might just drive up to you and borrow your awesome tools 😉. Looking forward to your awesome updates. Thanks for giving us the insights! |
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mdege Samba Member
Joined: January 16, 2018 Posts: 939 Location: Niederkruechten, Germany
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mdege Samba Member
Joined: January 16, 2018 Posts: 939 Location: Niederkruechten, Germany
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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 11:03 am Post subject: Re: Restoration of a former '65 firetruck (21F) |
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The Work continues.
Last weekend I pulled the front axle beam apart and dragged it to a place to have it sandblasted. I should have it back on Tuesday.
I extracted the needle bearing using this tool:
Then I made wooden plugs to close off the tubes. I don't want the blasting media in the tubes with the grease. Had that problem on a friends axle. Definitely no fun! I'll post pictures of that once I get the axle back.
I also did some other random stuff like sandblast and paint the tierods and rear break drums.
Finished the front backing plates by installing the new springs which stop the adjuster from turning.
Since I was done with all of the front axle parts except for the axle beam. I decided it was time to roll out the motor.
This is a dual port 50HP motor which came from a 1979 bus. I rebuilt it with new heads 53000 km and 25 years ago. I will clean it up on the outside, replace some of the engine tin but I won't take it apart for now. It is hard to read but the case is stamped with AS and the recycling symbol. I doubt the case had been recycled, I must have been new I has never had an engine number.
Some of the crud that was left after I removed the engine tin and exhaust system.
Then I cleaned the flywheel and pressure plate. The clutch had rusted to the pressure plate.
Motor with most of the tin gone:
Today I cleaned the intake and unplugged the heat riser tube. I also finally made a plug for the vacuume connector for the non existent power breaks. I used to have a rubber plug which has fallen out on occasion. The new plug is press-fit and wont fall out again.
Removed the pulley wheel and the piece of tin behind it.
_________________ - Michael
1965 21F: Restoration of a former '65 firetruck
1963 Typ3 Notchback project
1988 Multivan Magnum 112i
1984 Standard: My son wanted a bug for his first car |
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mdege Samba Member
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TRS63 Samba Member
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mdege Samba Member
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Dann Tellez Samba Member
Joined: September 03, 2013 Posts: 201 Location: Monterrey
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:56 pm Post subject: Re: Restoration of a former '65 firetruck (21F) |
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Such a great job!.
Definitely this is one of my favorite buses here on Samba. |
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mdege Samba Member
Joined: January 16, 2018 Posts: 939 Location: Niederkruechten, Germany
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Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:23 pm Post subject: Re: Restoration of a former '65 firetruck (21F) |
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@Dann thank you for your kind words.
Today I continued on the front axle.
First I pulled the wooden plugs which kept the sandblast media out of the greasy tubes.
Then I removed as much of the old grease:
And then I cleaned the needle bearings and reinstalled them:
Reassembly of the trailing arms:
I scored some NOS rubber stops this weekend, ofcourse they had to be installed right away
_________________ - Michael
1965 21F: Restoration of a former '65 firetruck
1963 Typ3 Notchback project
1988 Multivan Magnum 112i
1984 Standard: My son wanted a bug for his first car |
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mdege Samba Member
Joined: January 16, 2018 Posts: 939 Location: Niederkruechten, Germany
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Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:17 am Post subject: Re: Restoration of a former '65 firetruck (21F) |
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I haven't posted here in a while. Progress has been a bit slower or I was so busy at it, that I forgot to take pictures.
The engine is basically ready to be taken off the motor stand. Unfortunately I can't test run it while it is on the stand.
All did to it was to clean it up and replaced or cleaned and resprayed the tin. Ofcourse I adjusted the valves drained and replace the oil. The carburetor and fuel pump are rebuilt. The wiring harness is new too. Now I need to set the timing and take it off of the stand, and reinstall the flywheel. Then I can hook it up for a test run.
Then I decided to not use the cargofloor which I had bought more than 20 years ago. The new ones are so much better.
To install the floor I still have a little bit of work ahead of me. First I had to remove the last bits of the original floor.
And I had some rust repair to do:
Next I still have to clean and paint the torsionbar tube while I have easy access to it.
Then I tried to repair the section of the heater tube which sits right in front of the cargo area. Unfortunately you can only get a new one when you buy the whole set. This is really the part that rusts most of all of the heater tubes.
I didn't like my first try. The second one is a failure too, I did not get the angle right. I'll need to cut it apart again and tack it together with it on the car.
Removed the old floor welds from the heater tubes:
I am contemplating if I should reinstall the original rear heater or if I should go with the plastic Eberspächer heater went I used once I installed the Eberspächer heater.
_________________ - Michael
1965 21F: Restoration of a former '65 firetruck
1963 Typ3 Notchback project
1988 Multivan Magnum 112i
1984 Standard: My son wanted a bug for his first car |
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