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JimmyJagged
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 Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 2:34 pm Post subject: Re: The Air-Schooled Games - newbies welcome! |
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I'll play! I am the exact target market this game was designed for.
My first guesses were:
adjust the idle adjustment screw
check for vacuum leak from manifold boots
make sure there is gas in the tank
check for clogged fuel filter
check the timing
I didn't think of check the solenoid, but that is a good one.
Robbie already said "no" to the manifold boots.
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andrewtf
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| Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 2:41 pm Post subject: Re: The Air-Schooled Games - newbies welcome! |
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Hi, um, I'm new here. I wanted to put in one big garage door in my free-standing 24 x 20 garage plus apartment, so I cut the headers off the two smaller garage doors and took out the center support studs.
Well, wouldn't you know it, the window in the upstairs apartment won't open any more and there are these cracking sounds. What do you think it could be? |
Its that crap Chinese drywall you used. Replace it with good ol' American drywall and it'll stiffen that SOB right up. But just in case, I'd park Naranja in the driveway for a while.
Also - you are in trouble with the Zoning Department as your lot is only zoned for one Principle structure. Besides the immediate removal of the garage/apartment there is a substantial fine involved. Unfortunately, on top of that you were doing unpermitted structural demolition which is an additional fine. And to top it off, you do not have a state contractor's license and were doing the work yourself.... guess what.. another fine. Sorry, but you may need to sell the BobD to handle the debt.
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Xevin 
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| Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 3:04 pm Post subject: Re: The Air-Schooled Games - newbies welcome! |
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andrew (F’ing) tf, that was brilliant 
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bsairhead
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| Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 4:40 pm Post subject: Re: The Air-Schooled Games - newbies welcome! |
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| Drove the bus today, third stop it dies and continues to die if i don't keep my foot on the gas. Has happened before and will happen again. Electromagnetic cutoff valve loose again. |
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| Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 4:47 pm Post subject: Re: The Air-Schooled Games - newbies welcome! |
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the nipple fell off the manifold? The brake booster plug is leaking?
What I really want to know is what did Mies van der Saaw see?
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Xevin
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| Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:33 pm Post subject: Re: The Air-Schooled Games - newbies welcome! |
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Now where the hell is the OP? 
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SGKent
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| Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 7:19 pm Post subject: Re: The Air-Schooled Games - newbies welcome! |
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er what Mies van der Seee saw.
Robbie is out whittling oboe reeds for next weeks concert of Peter and the Wolf. Oh - forgot, that is a bassoon. Its been awhile since I heard it.  Someone tell me again why I am retiring at the end of October - I am so excited.
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Mispeld
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| Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 7:25 pm Post subject: Re: The Air-Schooled Games - newbies welcome! |
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I'm not an expert with VW, but if I'd guess, the idle needs to be adjusted. When the high idle cam on the carb moves when it warms up, the idle will drop. If your oil and alt light comes on, maybe because the rpms are too low at idle... or lack of idle.
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wcfvw69
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| Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 7:34 pm Post subject: Re: The Air-Schooled Games |
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I am going to sit in the corner with my man bun suck on my thumb and stroke my emotional support animal |
LMAO!
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wcfvw69
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| Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 7:40 pm Post subject: Re: The Air-Schooled Games - newbies welcome! |
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Robbie said the dual port intake manifold boots were just replaced. SO, were the new boots seated all the way on the intake manifold and the castings on the head? Big vacuum leak if not and no idleski...
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airschooled
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| Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 7:58 pm Post subject: Re: The Air-Schooled Games - newbies welcome! |
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Where am I? Fucking working, what about you dudes?
Robbie
(Continuing tonight or tomorrow morning!)
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Xevin
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| Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 8:04 pm Post subject: Re: The Air-Schooled Games - newbies welcome! |
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Where am I? Fucking working, what about you dudes?
Robbie
(Continuing tonight or tomorrow morning!) |
Recovering from surgery and board out of my skull.
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airschooled
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| Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 8:15 pm Post subject: Re: The Air-Schooled Games - newbies welcome! |
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| asiab3 wrote: |
Where am I? Fucking working, what about you dudes?
Robbie
(Continuing tonight or tomorrow morning!) |
Recovering from surgery and board out of my skull. |
Fair enough! Everyone else??
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SGKent
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| Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 8:26 pm Post subject: Re: The Air-Schooled Games - newbies welcome! |
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practicing for retirement  Does that get me a hall pass, or am I being sent to the principle's office?
Didi you get moved out to Vista?
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airschooled
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| Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 8:52 pm Post subject: Re: The Air-Schooled Games - newbies welcome! |
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Yeah but Tram isn't allowed to play. Thanks for that article… It would have solved the problem.
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| Idle set too low? Or maybe air/fuel mixture is too lean? |
Screwing in the idle speed screw doesn't help, mixture screw doesn't help.
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You said your oil and generator lights came on -- is this after it stalls, or while its still running? Do the lights stay on when you're revving it to keep it running?
Unplug your idle solenoid entirely -- is the problem the same/better/worse?
Plug your idle solenoid back in -- is the problem the same/better/worse?
Unscrew your idle solenoid 1/2 turn -- is the problem the same/better/worse?
P.S. Robbie thanks for doing something useful here. |
THIS is a Quality Post! Except you're quickly becoming the expert in PDSIT Solex carbs, so maybe you stay out of the carburetor games! Next week will getcha, I bet. Answers:
Same.
Same.
Same. But this would catch the issue.
Any guesses?
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Is an intake leak the same as a vacuum leak? You've got me there.
How's the timing on the engine? After you timed it did you adjust the idle speed? When you press the throttle and let go, does it immediately go back to normal idle speed? |
Yes, the same.
Timing is set to 29° max advance hoses off. Letting off the throttle results in a stall.
| JimmyJagged wrote: |
I'll play! I am the exact target market this game was designed for.
My first guesses were:
adjust the idle adjustment screw
check for vacuum leak from manifold boots
make sure there is gas in the tank
check for clogged fuel filter
check the timing
I didn't think of check the solenoid, but that is a good one.
Robbie already said "no" to the manifold boots. |
Excellent effort!
Screws do nothing.
Boots replies.
Gas tank full.
Filter replaced.
Timing perfect.
Solenoid clicks, but…
| Mispeld wrote: |
| I'm not an expert with VW, but if I'd guess, the idle needs to be adjusted. When the high idle cam on the carb moves when it warms up, the idle will drop. If your oil and alt light comes on, maybe because the rpms are too low at idle... or lack of idle. |
Correct-ish! The lights did indeed come on because of the stall. OP originally added oil and tightened the belt because Muir says to do that when the lights come on
It's important to narrow down symptoms and causes, and separate them! Nice job.
Anyone who explicitly cited instructions on how to check the idle cutoff solenoid is the winner. The solenoid was loose in the carb body.
This case study was one of my own, Circa May 2012. Buddy's first drive.
Thanks everyone who participated; see you next week!
Robbie
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Tram
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| Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 10:57 pm Post subject: Re: The Air-Schooled Games - newbies welcome! |
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| asiab3 wrote: |
Yeah but Tram isn't allowed to play. Thanks for that article… It would have solved the problem.
| dumptuck wrote: |
| Idle set too low? Or maybe air/fuel mixture is too lean? |
Screwing in the idle speed screw doesn't help, mixture screw doesn't help.
| xyzzy wrote: |
You said your oil and generator lights came on -- is this after it stalls, or while its still running? Do the lights stay on when you're revving it to keep it running?
Unplug your idle solenoid entirely -- is the problem the same/better/worse?
Plug your idle solenoid back in -- is the problem the same/better/worse?
Unscrew your idle solenoid 1/2 turn -- is the problem the same/better/worse?
P.S. Robbie thanks for doing something useful here. |
THIS is a Quality Post! Except you're quickly becoming the expert in PDSIT Solex carbs, so maybe you stay out of the carburetor games! Next week will getcha, I bet. Answers:
Same.
Same.
Same. But this would catch the issue.
Any guesses?
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Is an intake leak the same as a vacuum leak? You've got me there.
How's the timing on the engine? After you timed it did you adjust the idle speed? When you press the throttle and let go, does it immediately go back to normal idle speed? |
Yes, the same.
Timing is set to 29° max advance hoses off. Letting off the throttle results in a stall.
| JimmyJagged wrote: |
I'll play! I am the exact target market this game was designed for.
My first guesses were:
adjust the idle adjustment screw
check for vacuum leak from manifold boots
make sure there is gas in the tank
check for clogged fuel filter
check the timing
I didn't think of check the solenoid, but that is a good one.
Robbie already said "no" to the manifold boots. |
Excellent effort!
Screws do nothing.
Boots replies.
Gas tank full.
Filter replaced.
Timing perfect.
Solenoid clicks, but…
| Mispeld wrote: |
| I'm not an expert with VW, but if I'd guess, the idle needs to be adjusted. When the high idle cam on the carb moves when it warms up, the idle will drop. If your oil and alt light comes on, maybe because the rpms are too low at idle... or lack of idle. |
Correct-ish! The lights did indeed come on because of the stall. OP originally added oil and tightened the belt because Muir says to do that when the lights come on
It's important to narrow down symptoms and causes, and separate them! Nice job.
Anyone who explicitly cited instructions on how to check the idle cutoff solenoid is the winner. The solenoid was loose in the carb body.
This case study was one of my own, Circa May 2012. Buddy's first drive.
Thanks everyone who participated; see you next week!
Robbie |
What... I'm not allowed to play because I knew where the problem was right off? 
It's always been a very common issue. Usually when they come loose the tech decides it's a great idea to tighten the shit out of it, which often makes things way worse and ends up stripping out and egg shaping the hole.
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| Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 5:44 am Post subject: Re: The Air-Schooled Games - newbies welcome! |
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Recovering from surgery and board out of my skull. |
What size board? I'll bet brain salad surgery ain't cheap.
The power blinked off twice as I was typing this.
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| Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 5:59 am Post subject: Re: The Air-Schooled Games - newbies welcome! |
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| Tram wrote: |
It's always been a very common issue. Usually when they come loose the tech decides it's a great idea to tighten the shit out of it, which often makes things way worse and ends up stripping out and egg shaping the hole. |
And extra points if he snips the plunger off?
Better yet: reset the timing, snip the wire and screw in an idle jet?
Explain the difference in intake or vacuum leak, is above the throttle called vacuum?
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Xevin
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| Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 6:01 am Post subject: Re: The Air-Schooled Games - newbies welcome! |
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| Xevin wrote: |
Recovering from surgery and board out of my skull. |
What size board? I'll bet brain salad surgery ain't cheap.
The power blinked off twice as I was typing this. |
HaHa!!! Got me Don’t be that typo person
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