My VIN/New Bus Purchase

[harrold059]

Hey everyone!

I’m back in the bus game after selling my 77 a few years ago. I bought what was advertised as a 1972 and a lost title. They stated it has been sitting for 5+ years but its in great condition. For the price I couldn’t pass it up. I’m filing for lost title this week. The vin is 2292026324 also the door sticker has a 09/78 on it. So I’m thinking I got a 78 and not a 72. Will I be surprised, not surprised at DMV this week?

Thoughts?

Thanks everyone!
Tim

[busdaddy]

[harrold059]

Honestly I didn't look too much at the number particulars since it was such a good deal but it was advertised (on Craigslist) as a 1972. Next time look at this picture. Its in great shape and it was a good deal. Thanks Busdaddy!

[SGKent]

that will be a 1979 California bus. I looked it up online to see if the VIN came up in the recent California smog database and it did not.

That said - Oregon has a program where is a car gets a scrapped title the car gets cut up - period. Every once in awhile we have a thread here where one of those cars doesn't get cut up but when the state learns it is out there snip snip snip. So my suggestion is when you talk with DMV tell them you are negotiating with someone who has a 1979 VW bus that they want to sell, and can the State tell you if any past due fees are owed on it if you buy it an license it.
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[Tram]

[SGKent]

Tram we ran into it a couple years ago where a wrecking yard put a bus down as parting it, and it could not be returned to the road. The guy who owned it spent months fighting with the state on it. If you want I'll see if I can find the thread. I personally spent hours researching the law to find a loophole and could not find one. It had something to do with the title being surrendered by a Distmantler. Below is a section of Oregon DMV info from their PDF on re-titling a salvage car.

[harrold059]

By cut up do you mean destroyed? Oregon allows for "salvaged" titles on vehicles. This bus doesn't show any signs of previous damage and is straight as they come. I know I should have checked sticker prior to purchase specially with a "lost title". The plates are last licensed in 2001. We'll see but for what I paid I'm not expecting a unicorn!

You and busdaddy helped me out a lot with my 77 a few years back and like I said then, sometimes you have to hit me on the head a few times before I think! Now that I have a bus again expect a ton of questions and please be patient.

Thanks!
Tim

[Tram]

[SGKent]

No it had to do with the fact that an auto wrecking firm towed it in and then instead of selling it as a complete car, they told the state it was going to be parted out/junked. That made it easier for them to get rid of it paperwork wise. Somehow it sat in the yard and someone saw it and wanted to buy it. The state would not issue a title on it. That was six or seven years ago as I recall. It has to do with a "Distmantler" getting involved sometime in its life and reporting that they are going to part it out. I recall, and I could be wrong on this, but when they report it as being parted it changed what it cost the wrecking yard in DMV fees.

Here is one:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=551667&highlight=oregon+dismantler


Most state agencies right now are redoing their webpages for the new https change July 1 of this year. I know that because I am involved in the project at the agency I work for. The Oregon form number the dismantler filled out on that bus in the thread link I posted is Form 6017. I tried to find a copy at Oregon DMV because it explains the consequences but the aspx page in their link points to is broken. Basically if an Oregon Form 6017 is filled out on a car it can never be re-titled again. All I was saying is ask if there are any past due fees owed so if something like that come up there is no paperwork started on it that would keep one from going to another state to title it. Oregon is not fully functional on the National System yet.

I am sure things will be fine but be safe.

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[Tram]

[harrold059]

[SGKent]

if they are the last owners the state DMV can probably give you a form for them to sign in lieu of a title. Depending where you live in Oregon you might need to smog it. Hopefully you are outside those boundaries.
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[harrold059]

I do live outside those boundries! Thanks for your input and I'll be back for more advice!

[Centurion]

I'm looking to buy a 1971 vw bay window bus
Vin number I was given starts 221 213
The research that I have done is leading me to believe this vin doesn't match the bus depicted
I saw one post that showed the first 3 letters of 221 is for a 9 passenger microbus split window
This bus is a bay window
The entire vin is ten digits.
Can this be legit? Thanks

[KentABQ]

Oops.... Double posted
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1976 Riviera, 1.8l FI chrome yellow VAN - "Chloe"

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Cars of today are so bland in comparison. It's like driving a celebration!" ---WildIdea

Bus ownership via emoticons:
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[KentABQ]

[busdaddy]

[Centurion]

Thank you very much for the info
I will pm you with the info
Next question if you don't mind is wher should I look ok a 71 for the stamped identification number and is it the same vin ?

[SGKent]

[Centurion]

Again thanks. This all very helpful
I was reading more on topic Should this title show "sw" under body type?
What I read had a list but "Sw" wasn't one of them