Will 914 wheels fit on my '69 beetle?

[Abouna]

I picked up a set of 2 liter Fuchs for my 914, so I'm wondering if my stock steel 914 wheels, currently running 195 R15 Dunlop Super Sport 5000's, will fit on my stock '69 beetle? Are there any issues I should worry about?

[Glenn]

195/60-15 on Porsche/Pedrini 914 5.5x15 alloys.

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[docdanracy]

Yes
185x65x15 on custom 6.5 steel 914 Sport wheels!

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1970 Sunroof Bug Yukon Yellow (L19K)
Custom 6.5x15” 914 Sport Wheels wrapped in 185x65x15 Contis
Empi shifter, full compliment of gauges, 1679 with mild cam, stock induction

SOLD: 1974 Marina Blue Standard Beetle undergoing restoration/preservation
1679 with Kadrons and header/QP
914 sport wheels 5.5" ET40 wrapped in 195x65x15 Kumhos

[Glenn]

195/55-15 with the front dropped 3".

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[bluebus86]

Note the real 914 four lug Fuchs may have a different rim offset than aftermarket Fuchs. I believe some aftermarket Fuchs better fit on the Bug, but someone else should be able to give more info than me. I just know there can be differences in offset. Also I think the 914 ones are actually forged, some aftermarket ones are cast. Often there is a big price difference for those that know the differences. If you got real ones you could sell the two, and afford a whole set of aftermarket ones. But the real deal is the best aluminum strength wise.


914 On!
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[Glenn]

Real 914 Fuchs are forged and have a ET42 offset.

The offset is why i can run 195 wide tires with a stock width beam.
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[Abouna]

Those all looks pretty great. But I think I didn't make my question clear, perhaps.

The Fuchs I've got are real forged 914 wheels that came only on on the 2-liter 914's. Those are what I'm putting on the 914. (see pic of actual wheel, and yes, tires are coming off!)

What I want to do is take off the stock steel wheels from my '71 914 (the black ones pictured on the car) and put them on the '69 beetle (actual car pictured with current wheels.

If this works, I think they'll look pretty sweet with the yellow Dunlop text. Also planning to put drop spindles up front, so it should have a bit racier look. Will go good with the 1776 dual carb engine I'm running. Might even take the bumpers off and go for a rally look.

[docdanracy]

If those are original stock steel 914 wheels
They should be 5.5”x15 with an ET of 40-42
The wheels will fit
If the tires are 195r 15
Doubt you will have clearance up front to do drop spindles and have the tires clear the fenders.
You need a lower profile tire like Glenn is running unless you leave it at stock ride height...for rally look you want it at a more stock ride height and rake IMHO
Rear should be fine.
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1970 Sunroof Bug Yukon Yellow (L19K)
Custom 6.5x15” 914 Sport Wheels wrapped in 185x65x15 Contis
Empi shifter, full compliment of gauges, 1679 with mild cam, stock induction

SOLD: 1974 Marina Blue Standard Beetle undergoing restoration/preservation
1679 with Kadrons and header/QP
914 sport wheels 5.5" ET40 wrapped in 195x65x15 Kumhos

[docdanracy]

914will end up like this

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1970 Sunroof Bug Yukon Yellow (L19K)
Custom 6.5x15” 914 Sport Wheels wrapped in 185x65x15 Contis
Empi shifter, full compliment of gauges, 1679 with mild cam, stock induction

SOLD: 1974 Marina Blue Standard Beetle undergoing restoration/preservation
1679 with Kadrons and header/QP
914 sport wheels 5.5" ET40 wrapped in 195x65x15 Kumhos

[Rome]

Abouna, your 914 steelies appear to be 4.5" which were standard equipment on the first few years of the 914. 5.5" "hubcap" steelies were also offered slightly later on but are hard to find. The 4.5" rims will physically fit fine on your '69. With the 195 tires "bulging" from the narrowness of the rims, I'd imagine that speedometer error will not be too great. I've fitted 185/65 tires to 4.5" rims and thought those were already at the limit of width for my preference, but others on this site have squeezed even larger tires like 205's onto 4.5" rims.

Very clean '69 you have. What are the spec's on your 1776 engine?

[theKbStockpiler]

I'm pretty sure that some 2.0 rims are a ET of 46.
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[bluebus86]

Thats one sweet Bug and one sweet 914 you got there. Id be very tempted to keep two tone rims for the Bug, they look sharp on your ride.
I have had Bugs and 14s for decades. love em!


Bugteen On!
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[docdanracy]

Original equipment 914 2.0L Fuchs

914 361 011 01 part#

1973-1976 years available as original equipment

5.5x15 ET42

Bolts are 914 361 315 01 and are 41mm long with a ball seat.
Caps are 914 361 303 03
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1970 Sunroof Bug Yukon Yellow (L19K)
Custom 6.5x15” 914 Sport Wheels wrapped in 185x65x15 Contis
Empi shifter, full compliment of gauges, 1679 with mild cam, stock induction

SOLD: 1974 Marina Blue Standard Beetle undergoing restoration/preservation
1679 with Kadrons and header/QP
914 sport wheels 5.5" ET40 wrapped in 195x65x15 Kumhos

[Glenn]

Bolts

Caps

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[Abouna]

[Rome]

Ah yes, I remember your engine build now. This one- https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=644737&highlight=

How has the engine been running since your build and installation?

[bluebus86]

[Glenn]

Yes, something lie $60-$80 each.

Reproduction are much cheaper/
https://www.vwispwest.com/search?sq=914

But i like NOS better.

BTW, i have a home made tool that removes and installes them without denting them.
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[docdanracy]

The ISP center caps are very nice.
Billet aluminum, nice finish, fit great!
Stock caps are a stamped steel and get bent very easily unless you are careful.
Have have about 8sets of 4 bolt Fuchs over the years, and the ISP caps are the best and a decent price!

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1970 Sunroof Bug Yukon Yellow (L19K)
Custom 6.5x15” 914 Sport Wheels wrapped in 185x65x15 Contis
Empi shifter, full compliment of gauges, 1679 with mild cam, stock induction

SOLD: 1974 Marina Blue Standard Beetle undergoing restoration/preservation
1679 with Kadrons and header/QP
914 sport wheels 5.5" ET40 wrapped in 195x65x15 Kumhos