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earthquake
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I don't have a clue who makes it but for $200 I don't think you can go wrong.
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jsturtlebuggy
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| Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 1:24 pm Post subject: Re: Help Identifying Sand Rail Chassis |
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It looks like a Funco Hustler chassis. It was a variation of the Funco SSI with a taller roll cage.
Sand Masters (which became McKenzie's) in the San Fernando valley used them in their teams off road racing.
It looks like it has aluminum blocks holding the front beam to the chassis. The Blocks that Funco used did not have names on them. Hi-Jumper and Panzer chassis had their name on the aluminum block.
The fiberglass body parts look like what was on my Funco SSI buggy I race in the 1970s.
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Mal evolent
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dustymojave
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| Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 1:26 am Post subject: Re: Help Identifying Sand Rail Chassis |
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That window brace was especially important if the Funco was one that Gil built extra light. He sometimes used .049 wall tubing for the front hoop of the cage. I found a few of them as a Tech Inspector. Saw a couple that had gotten past other inspectors and failed in crashes.  Found some other places in Funco frames that I worked on as a fabricator.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=451478
Dave Hendrickson (Daveco is wrong in that thread. Maybe Tamiya used Bob Maynard's SS2 to develop the shape for the R/C model, but the markings are PURE Malcolm Smith/Bud Feldkamp.
https://www.race-dezert.com/forum/threads/vintage-baja-1000-winner.29557/
That car is NOT a Funco. It's a Hi Jumper RS-2. Built in San Fernando, at the San Fernando Buggy shop. Right down the street from my home. Owner, Bill Foster of Bill Foster's Muffler shop next to San Fernando Buggy. Driven to a win in the Baja 1000 by Malcolm Smith and Bud Feldkamp, then later driven by Roger Mears. Later I VERY NEARLY t-boned that car in a race at Cal City. The driver of the time got it sideways RIGHT in front of me as I was going to pass it. My front bumper missed the side of the CloudHopper by inches.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=6378856
This car is a 2 seat Funco. Not a model that ever had a name I was ever aware of. Previous 2 seaters had a station wagon like rear cage. They were called "Bandido". That was replaced with this model with a sloped rear cage. Then again later, there was a 2 seater that was being built at the same time as the SS2. Like the Funco 2 seat of our friend on here flashho, who lives down in Baja. (Note that he raised the roof of his for head clearance)
They had rear side panels with a wheel arch. But since the 'SS' in the name "SS1" or "SS2" refers to Single Seat frames ONLY, 2-seater Funco buggies would not be called "SS".
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sporkwerks
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Can anyone tell me if this is/ was a Funco car?
Thanks.
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jsturtlebuggy
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| Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:26 pm Post subject: Re: Help Identifying Sand Rail Chassis |
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It is a copy of a Funco SS1
Reason I am saying that is the radius on front and rear hoops for roll cage are wrong. They are too round, Funco's used a different die to bend the tubing then what you see in the picture.
Also Funco used aluminum clamps to hold front beam to chassis.
Fiberglass is what you see for a SSI but was copied by others too.
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sporkwerks
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| Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:23 pm Post subject: Re: Help Identifying Sand Rail Chassis |
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| jsturtlebuggy wrote: |
It is a copy of a Funco SS1
Reason I am saying that is the radius on front and rear hoops for roll cage are wrong. They are too round, Funco's used a different die to bend the tubing then what you see in the picture.
Also Funco used aluminum clamps to hold front beam to chassis.
Fiberglass is what you see for a SSI but was copied by others too. |
Cool, thank you. Yeah the beam is welded on. |
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liquidrush
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| Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:44 am Post subject: Re: Help Identifying Sand Rail Chassis |
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| Just an off the wall question but where is the shifter in those single seaters? |
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sporkwerks
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| Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:44 pm Post subject: Re: Help Identifying Sand Rail Chassis |
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| liquidrush wrote: |
| Just an off the wall question but where is the shifter in those single seaters? |
in this one |
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liquidrush
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| Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:33 am Post subject: Re: Help Identifying Sand Rail Chassis |
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| Must have some crazy linkage. |
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sporkwerks
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| Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 2:53 pm Post subject: Re: Help Identifying Sand Rail Chassis |
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You could say that.
Sorry, the photo is not that good. |
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