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R. Bruce Cannon Samba Member
Joined: September 06, 2017 Posts: 1 Location: Northfield, Ma.
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 6:50 pm Post subject: engine seal channel |
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I have a 73 Ghia restomod the engine bay is missing the seal channel.
I'm looking to fix this problem and would appreciate any feedback and info. |
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Danwvw Samba Member
Joined: July 31, 2012 Posts: 8892 Location: Oregon Coast
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 7:32 pm Post subject: Re: engine seal channel |
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Man, that is going to take a bit of metal work! I would probably put pipe insulation on, RTV it to the engine tin's, maybe cover it with aluminum foil. _________________ 1960 Beetle And 1679cc DP W-100 & Dual Zeniths! |
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chrisflstf Samba Member
Joined: February 10, 2004 Posts: 3412 Location: San Diego
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OLD VW NUT Samba Member
Joined: February 23, 2011 Posts: 2776 Location: High Desert of Washington 98823
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:18 pm Post subject: Re: engine seal channel |
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The new channel should be the same for beetle or ghia. No differences between them in that area. VW had a knack for using the same parts across as much of their air cooled models as possible. A 67 and earlier bus also had the same hardware in that area. Since they both take the same engine tin and the same seal. I'd make one before I spent $400 on a new channel. _________________ 71 Ghia Coupe - stock body - no rust! Powered by a 2110 W/Dual HPMX 44's - Rancho Pro Street Transaxle - A/C by Gilmore
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chrisflstf Samba Member
Joined: February 10, 2004 Posts: 3412 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:25 am Post subject: Re: engine seal channel |
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Gab also had a tool to straighten the channel as they get dented/beatup |
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andk5591 Samba Member
Joined: August 29, 2005 Posts: 16754 Location: State College, PA
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 8:16 am Post subject: Re: engine seal channel |
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Assuming that you are talking about the channel around the sides and back. We just did a repair on a Ghia that had a hacked engine compartment without any channel. After wrestling with our options, we came up with trying the "Mexican" slip on trunk seal for a beetle. It clipped on the perimeter of the engine opening and seems like it will do the job.
If you are talking about the seal around the front tin by the transaxle, it was also missing. I made some sheet metal tabs to secure it with self tapping screws through the stock seal and the firewall. _________________ D-Dubya Manx clone - 63 Short pan,1914.
Rosie 65 bug - My mostly stock daily driver.
Woodie 69 VW woodie (Hot VWs 7/12).
"John's car" 64 VW woodie - The first ever
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Max - 73 standard Beetle hearse project - For sale
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djkeev Samba Moderator
Joined: September 30, 2007 Posts: 32431 Location: Reading Pennsylvania
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12815 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 4:53 am Post subject: Re: engine seal channel |
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djkeev wrote: |
I give Gab a lot of praise for making this channel available.
When you consider the complexity of the sheet metal and the importance of having a quality seal....... $400 is a bargain!
Dave |
Are you F*$&ing kidding me? Of all the things that we've seen you dissect & reuse and you try to justify $400 for the seal channel?!? You funny.
I cut one out of a Beetle donor car.
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Today I cut a section of engine seal channel out of a donor.
Then I burned off the undercoating off the back of the piece so I could see where the spot welds were.
After that, I cleaned it off with a wire brush.
Once cleaned, I ground the welds down with a die grinder.
And separated the channel from the scrap.
I then cleaned it up a bit...
And clamped it in place.
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VWTortuga336 Samba Member
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djkeev Samba Moderator
Joined: September 30, 2007 Posts: 32431 Location: Reading Pennsylvania
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 10:13 am Post subject: Re: engine seal channel |
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TDCTDI wrote: |
djkeev wrote: |
I give Gab a lot of praise for making this channel available.
When you consider the complexity of the sheet metal and the importance of having a quality seal....... $400 is a bargain!
Dave |
Are you F*$&ing kidding me? Of all the things that we've seen you dissect & reuse and you try to justify $400 for the seal channel?!? You funny.
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I don't need one, if I did, I've a donor car here.
But if you've ever tried to make something like this and want to have it look darn near original, you will know the time that goes into it.
I made a portion of a convertible cable channel on a newer Beetle Convertible.
It came out great but the time investment was huge!
$400 isn't out of line for a "paste in" well made complex part. Our "made in
China" cheapo part mentality just doesn't apply here. Too bad it applies anywhere, we are buried in crappy low cost car parts today,
If things were different and Given the right circumstances, I just might purchase one......
Dave _________________ Stop Dead Photo Links how to post photos
Ghia
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=392473
Vanagon
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=6315537#6315537
Beetle
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=482968&highlight=74+super+vert |
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