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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 3:48 pm    Post subject: Has anyone tried to dye your seatbelts? Reply with quote

My rear seatbelts are faded, badly. The straps are still in good condition, but next to my new seat covers, they look crappy.

Has anyone successfully dyed your seatbelts to look fresh and new?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 4:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Has anyone tried to dye your seatbelts? Reply with quote

Why not new seat belts? They're a little different but look nice.

https://www.vwispwest.com/SEAT-BELTS
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 1:18 am    Post subject: Re: Has anyone tried to dye your seatbelts? Reply with quote

Probably your best chance is to use a product from SEM. They have many different products and I have used it on carpets, door panels, and even head liners. It is usually carried at professional automotive paint / restoration shops, but can also be purchase online. https://www.semproducts.com/
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 7:55 am    Post subject: Re: Has anyone tried to dye your seatbelts? Reply with quote

DO NOT....dye your seat belts. Ballistic nylon....being 6,6 nylon is not as easy to dye. First....it takes an acid dye which alters the surface chemistry....weakens it. Second.....it has to be done in a batch oven at between 345° F and 445°F....which seriously weakens it.

Also older seat belts made of nylon 6.....absorb moisture at about 2-3%.....which seriously weakens and embrittles it. You are not even supposed to wash seat belts.

The problem with dying nylons.....is that yes....you can dye nylon FABRICS......that clothes bags etc ard made with....but those do not have to support any tensile strength.

Ballistic safety nylons are not dyed. They are mixed as raw granules of plastic with plastic colorants and heat spun into fibers. They are BORN with whatever color they have.

Your seat belts in an accident have to absorb HUGE load. At this day and age....with UV degradation, age and probably getting wet many times over the years.....you should replace them anyway. Ray
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:57 am    Post subject: Re: Has anyone tried to dye your seatbelts? Reply with quote

Thx for the advice, Ray. It looks like ISPWest is getting more of my money this week. I had just put an order in Monday.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:59 am    Post subject: Re: Has anyone tried to dye your seatbelts? Reply with quote

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Your seat belts in an accident have to absorb HUGE load. At this day and age....with UV degradation, age and probably getting wet many times over the years.....you should replace them anyway. Ray


Agree, old seat belts aren't safe if you are actually expecting them to save your life.

The only thing I have ever done is clean them with soap/water/mild cleaners but I don't really trust those ones 100%. They are more for looks.

I think you have a '67 with the new red interior? Those didn't originally have rear seat belts anyway so find some brand new red ones to match.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 11:09 am    Post subject: Re: Has anyone tried to dye your seatbelts? Reply with quote

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I think you have a '67 with the new red interior? Those didn't originally have rear seat belts anyway so find some brand new red ones to match.


Yep, I found some on ISPWest that are red with a chrome buckle. It is always hard to tell color shades online. They should be close enough
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 11:12 am    Post subject: Re: Has anyone tried to dye your seatbelts? Reply with quote

Here's another source for seat belts:

https://www.seatbeltsplus.com/category/volkswagen-type-3-seat-belts.html

I'm working on getting 3 point retractable seat belts into my car.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 11:27 am    Post subject: Re: Has anyone tried to dye your seatbelts? Reply with quote

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Your seat belts in an accident have to absorb HUGE load. At this day and age....with UV degradation, age and probably getting wet many times over the years.....you should replace them anyway. Ray


Agree, old seat belts aren't safe if you are actually expecting them to save your life.


Agreed. For the cost of new belts, why screw around with a "safety device".
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 11:55 am    Post subject: Re: Has anyone tried to dye your seatbelts? Reply with quote

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Agree, old seat belts aren't safe if you are actually expecting them to save your life.

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Agreed. For the cost of new belts, why screw around with a "safety device".


I agree completely - I hadn't thought it through. For $50 I can get brand new pretty seat belts. That's what I am going to do.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 1:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Has anyone tried to dye your seatbelts? Reply with quote

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Here's another source for seat belts:

https://www.seatbeltsplus.com/category/volkswagen-type-3-seat-belts.html

I'm working on getting 3 point retractable seat belts into my car.


These are great- I've bought and used lots of them. FYI, the "Wolfsburg" decals are sort of cheesy IMHO.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 3:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Has anyone tried to dye your seatbelts? Reply with quote

squaretobehip wrote:
Why not new seat belts? They're a little different but look nice.

https://www.vwispwest.com/SEAT-BELTS

Do you know the length of the two point seat belts on ISPWest? I don't see it in the description.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 3:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Has anyone tried to dye your seatbelts? Reply with quote

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Here's another source for seat belts:

https://www.seatbeltsplus.com/category/volkswagen-type-3-seat-belts.html

I'm working on getting 3 point retractable seat belts into my car.


These are great- I've bought and used lots of them. FYI, the "Wolfsburg" decals are sort of cheesy IMHO.


Yeah, they're crap, TBH, but they come right off! Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 4:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Has anyone tried to dye your seatbelts? Reply with quote

ataraxia wrote:
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Here's another source for seat belts:

https://www.seatbeltsplus.com/category/volkswagen-type-3-seat-belts.html

I'm working on getting 3 point retractable seat belts into my car.


These are great- I've bought and used lots of them. FYI, the "Wolfsburg" decals are sort of cheesy IMHO.


Yeah, they're crap, TBH, but they come right off! Laughing


I'd take them off right away if they are known to be crappy.
He's in AZ and they would probably get gross and sticky from the heat
Easier to remove and clean them before install
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 5:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Has anyone tried to dye your seatbelts? Reply with quote

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ataraxia wrote:
Tram wrote:
ataraxia wrote:
Here's another source for seat belts:

https://www.seatbeltsplus.com/category/volkswagen-type-3-seat-belts.html

I'm working on getting 3 point retractable seat belts into my car.


These are great- I've bought and used lots of them. FYI, the "Wolfsburg" decals are sort of cheesy IMHO.


Yeah, they're crap, TBH, but they come right off! Laughing


I'd take them off right away if they are known to be crappy.
He's in AZ and they would probably get gross and sticky from the heat
Easier to remove and clean them before install


That's exactly what I am going to do...have some mounts to weld in first.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 5:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Has anyone tried to dye your seatbelts? Reply with quote

Ask them to leave them off. They will.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 5:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Has anyone tried to dye your seatbelts? Reply with quote

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Ask them to leave them off. They will.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:00 am    Post subject: Re: Has anyone tried to dye your seatbelts? Reply with quote

Tram wrote:
Ask them to leave them off. They will.


The ones I bought from CIP didn't come with a sticker, so I lucked out. Laughing
I think they're all basically made by the same company.
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