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breifenberg Samba Member
Joined: June 30, 2018 Posts: 62 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 12:32 pm Post subject: Engine help |
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Hey looking for some help here. What hose goes goes in the top 2 pics and where does the 3 pic go? This is a 2.1 out of a Syncro.
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SCM Samba Member
Joined: January 26, 2011 Posts: 3119 Location: Bozeman MT
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jberger Samba Member
Joined: November 17, 2003 Posts: 2476
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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 1:33 pm Post subject: Re: Engine help |
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Syncro layout is different.. pretty sure it's on there correctly. |
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SCM Samba Member
Joined: January 26, 2011 Posts: 3119 Location: Bozeman MT
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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 1:37 pm Post subject: Re: Engine help |
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jberger wrote: |
Syncro layout is different.. pretty sure it's on there correctly. |
Like I said, not normal. Those Syncro guys are a bunch of weirdos I tell ya. _________________ '91 Westfalia GL Automatic (GTA "Turbo" Rebuild w/Peloquin) and 2.3L GoWesty Engine |
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breifenberg Samba Member
Joined: June 30, 2018 Posts: 62 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 3:37 pm Post subject: Re: Engine help |
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Yea I see that schematic on 19.11 of the Bentley. But I was wondering if there is something more specific for Syncro a going into a 2WD. |
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jberger Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 3:41 pm Post subject: Re: Engine help |
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breifenberg wrote: |
Yea I see that schematic on 19.11 of the Bentley. But I was wondering if there is something more specific for Syncro a going into a 2WD. |
Just change out your thermostat housing and hook everything up like it was in your 2wd originally.
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crazyvwvanman Samba Member
Joined: January 28, 2008 Posts: 9937 Location: Orbiting San Diego
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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 5:39 pm Post subject: Re: Engine help |
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If it was a Syncro 2.1 going into what was a 2.1 2WD van it would be pretty simple to adapt the cooling bits. Trying to put a Syncro 2.1 into what came as 1.9 van is more complicated. (This assumes USA/CA model Vanagons. In other markets plenty of 1.9 vans came with what we here consider to be a 2.1 cooling system.)
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breifenberg Samba Member
Joined: June 30, 2018 Posts: 62 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 6:09 pm Post subject: Re: Engine help |
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Yea, it’s going into an ‘85.
Mark,
Is there anything out there to read up on it? |
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crazyvwvanman Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 6:42 pm Post subject: Re: Engine help |
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I'm not aware of any comprehensive guide to what you wish to do.
That 2 pipe assembly in one of your photos isn't something you should use in your 2wd van.
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breifenberg Samba Member
Joined: June 30, 2018 Posts: 62 Location: Ohio
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0to60in6min Samba Member
Joined: November 27, 2006 Posts: 3417 Location: OR & CA (Oregon/California)
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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 1:27 pm Post subject: Re: Engine help |
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will this help?
Last edited by 0to60in6min on Mon Aug 20, 2018 3:11 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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breifenberg Samba Member
Joined: June 30, 2018 Posts: 62 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 1:55 pm Post subject: Re: Engine help |
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Can u zoom out a little? Thanks |
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crazyvwvanman Samba Member
Joined: January 28, 2008 Posts: 9937 Location: Orbiting San Diego
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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 2:24 pm Post subject: Re: Engine help |
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The 2 large hoses from a 1.9 setup can't be just connected to that 2.1 thermostat housing, if that is what you are asking. The cooling systems have important differences that force you to use almost all of one or all of the other, at the engine end.
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Wildthings Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 3:49 pm Post subject: Re: Engine help |
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crazyvwvanman wrote: |
The 2 large hoses from a 1.9 setup can't be just connected to that 2.1 thermostat housing, if that is what you are asking. The cooling systems have important differences that force you to use almost all of one or all of the other, at the engine end.
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I would just tend to buy a 2.1 hose kit and build a 2.1 setup using it. |
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crazyvwvanman Samba Member
Joined: January 28, 2008 Posts: 9937 Location: Orbiting San Diego
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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:04 pm Post subject: Re: Engine help |
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I agree, but if he has plastic long pipes it isn't as simple. He needs to study how a 2.1 system is set up at the engine end. That curved 2 metal pipe piece he has isn't part of what he needs to do for a 2wd, it is a Syncro part. None of the 1.9 engine hoses are what he needs. He needs a few 2.1 hoses and a 2.1 coolant tower for a 2wd. Then he needs to shorten the 1.9 long cooling pipes to 2.1 lengths at the engine end.
Mark
Wildthings wrote: |
crazyvwvanman wrote: |
The 2 large hoses from a 1.9 setup can't be just connected to that 2.1 thermostat housing, if that is what you are asking. The cooling systems have important differences that force you to use almost all of one or all of the other, at the engine end.
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I would just tend to buy a 2.1 hose kit and build a 2.1 setup using it. |
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breifenberg Samba Member
Joined: June 30, 2018 Posts: 62 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:59 pm Post subject: Re: Engine help |
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Thank you! That’s what I needed to hear. On to studying a 2.1... |
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Wildthings Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 5:29 pm Post subject: Re: Engine help |
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Don't know what the difference is in the plastic and steel pipes for a 1.9L, but when I shoved a 2.1L into my 83 1/2, for the hose from the tower I used a flex hose that was 1 1/2 and one end and 1 1/4 on the other, the hose looks to be about 12" long.
For the hose to the thermostat housing I just used the standard 2wd hose and used a 1 1/2 to 1 1/4 radiator hose bushing at the pipe end with two clamps to help hold things in place. |
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breifenberg Samba Member
Joined: June 30, 2018 Posts: 62 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:58 am Post subject: Re: Engine help |
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Where do the back seat heater hoses connect on the engine? |
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Wildthings Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:03 am Post subject: Re: Engine help |
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breifenberg wrote: |
Where do the back seat heater hoses connect on the engine? |
They don't connect directly to the engine but "T" into the hoses to the front heater. |
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elizer Samba Member
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