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airschooled
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 Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 4:32 pm Post subject: The Air-Schooled Games - 3 - newbies only! |
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Greetings, everyone! Recently, I’ve seen a few new members digging in and participating in the diagnosing of various bus issues around here. Kudos to you folks, keep it up!
To keep the spirit of learning alive, I propose a game. Every week, I will post a thread as a new VW owner who is having a problem with their bus, (occasionally using confusing words and “great advice I get from Facebook.”) To those of you who read threads and do not participate much because you fear being wrong or giving bad advice, this thread is for you!! To those of you who can diagnose from a thousand miles away, please watch from a distance. Experienced mechanics are welcome to start their own thread. (Teachers' lounge, anyone?)
Rules:
1) Ask questions, make suggestions, and learn! (Don’t be afraid!)
2) Every thread scenario has actually happened.
3) Newbies only. You know who you are.
4) No prizes yet, but when you win, you're banned from the next few!
See you on the “road.” Game 3 is in the next post!
Robbie
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airschooled
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| Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 4:32 pm Post subject: Re: The Air-Schooled Games - 3 - newbies only! |
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Subject: did I ruin my engine?
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Howdy, I just finished my first oil change on my new bus, and now the engine is making a loud sound whenever I shift or drive fast. I didn’t change the filter, so I feel like my engine might be ruined…
1600 dual port
10w40 oil, three quarts
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Xevin 
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| Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 4:47 pm Post subject: Re: The Air-Schooled Games - 3 - newbies only! |
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Subject: did I ruin my engine?
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Howdy, I just finished my first oil change on my new bus, and now the engine is making a loud sound whenever I shift or drive fast. I didn’t change the filter, so I feel like my engine might be ruined…
1600 dual port
10w40 oil, three quarts |
What filter? Can you describe what filter you referring too?
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airschooled
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| Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 5:06 pm Post subject: Re: The Air-Schooled Games - 3 - newbies only! |
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| [What filter? Can you describe what filter you referring too? |
The mesh filter at the bottom of the engine with the six bolts.
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Tram
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| Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 5:07 pm Post subject: Re: The Air-Schooled Games - 3 - newbies only! |
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| asiab3 wrote: |
Subject: did I ruin my engine?
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Howdy, I just finished my first oil change on my new bus, and now the engine is making a loud sound whenever I shift or drive fast. I didn’t change the filter, so I feel like my engine might be ruined…
1600 dual port
10w40 oil, three quarts |
Shoot some expanding foam in each ear to stop random thoughts from rattling around in the empty chamber between them.
Hope this helps.
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Xevin
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| Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 5:10 pm Post subject: Re: The Air-Schooled Games - 3 - newbies only! |
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| Tram wrote: |
Shoot some expanding foam in each ear to stop random thoughts from rattling around in the empty chamber between them.
Hope this helps. |
Damn it Tram I cant win the T-shirt if you keep giving me the answers. 
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| Damn that Xevin... |
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| I respect Xevin and he's a turd |
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| My God! Xevin and I 100% agree |
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Xevin
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| Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 5:24 pm Post subject: Re: The Air-Schooled Games - 3 - newbies only! |
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When was the last valve adjustment? Shut up Tram
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| GFY's Xevin and VW_Jimbo! |
| Clatter wrote: |
| Damn that Xevin... |
| skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
| I respect Xevin and he's a turd |
| SGKent wrote: |
| My God! Xevin and I 100% agree |
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airschooled
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| Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 5:26 pm Post subject: Re: The Air-Schooled Games - 3 - newbies only! |
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| Xevin wrote: |
| When was the last valve adjustment? Shut up Tram |
Answer: Never done one!
Robbie's note: not relevant to the solution, though valve adjustments don't really just change spontaneously at the exact same time as an oil change…
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andrewtf
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| Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 5:40 pm Post subject: Re: The Air-Schooled Games - 3 - newbies only! |
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Dude - for the umpteenth time....
What year bus?, what engine? blah blah blah..... damn... how many times do we need to ask this?!?
SO, I believe your oil change most likely has nothing to do with a shifting noise.
How long have you owned this bus and have you ever actually shifted it before? If this was your first oil change, this must be a new bus to you. Do you even know how to drive it?
I suspect you got a wonky shift coupler. Get a new one - but weld the seams before you install it and don't forget to wire in the grub screw (ask me how I know THAT tidbit?).
happy trails
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airschooled
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| Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 5:57 pm Post subject: Re: The Air-Schooled Games - 3 - newbies only! |
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| andrewtf wrote: |
Dude - for the umpteenth time....
What year bus?, what engine? blah blah blah..... damn... how many times do we need to ask this?!?
SO, I believe your oil change most likely has nothing to do with a shifting noise.
How long have you owned this bus and have you ever actually shifted it before? If this was your first oil change, this must be a new bus to you. Do you even know how to drive it?
I suspect you got a wonky shift coupler. Get a new one - but weld the seams before you install it and don't forget to wire in the grub screw (ask me hoe I know THAT tidbit?).
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1971 Westy, 1600 dual port, H30/31pict Solex carb.
The noise is loudest when the engine spins down, like when shifting or revving at a stoplight. Volume depends on engine speed, so I don't think it's in the shift mechanism.
I've had it for about three weeks. You guys helped me figure out my idle issue two weeks ago.  I didn't learn to drive stick in this bus, but in a different bus last month. This one drives a lot smoother, but has trouble shifting in to second sometimes.
Robbie's notes: the noise is mechanical, and though "the OP" used incorrect terminology, the shifter notes are welcome.
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1600 dual port
10w40 oil, three quarts |
Dissecting that info tells us we have a Type 1, likely 68-71.
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Mispeld
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| Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 5:57 pm Post subject: Re: The Air-Schooled Games - 3 - newbies only! |
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Did you fill it with WD-40, not 10W-40? 
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airschooled
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| Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 5:59 pm Post subject: Re: The Air-Schooled Games - 3 - newbies only! |
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| Did you fill it with WD-40, not 10W-40? |
No, but Ratwell said I should be using 20w50 instead of 10w40, and my uncle said use 30w so I compromised.
Robbie's note: I wish I had this nearby for the garage door hinges I'm about to go at…
https://www.grainger.com/product/20JY68?cm_mmc=PPC...16005916:s
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| Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 6:20 pm Post subject: Re: The Air-Schooled Games - 3 - newbies only! |
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| asiab3 wrote: |
| andrewtf wrote: |
Dude - for the umpteenth time....
What year bus?, what engine? blah blah blah..... damn... how many times do we need to ask this?!?
SO, I believe your oil change most likely has nothing to do with a shifting noise.
How long have you owned this bus and have you ever actually shifted it before? If this was your first oil change, this must be a new bus to you. Do you even know how to drive it?
I suspect you got a wonky shift coupler. Get a new one - but weld the seams before you install it and don't forget to wire in the grub screw (ask me hoe I know THAT tidbit?).
happy trails |
1971 Westy, 1600 dual port, H30/31pict Solex carb.
The noise is loudest when the engine spins down, like when shifting or revving at a stoplight. Volume depends on engine speed, so I don't think it's in the shift mechanism.
I've had it for about three weeks. You guys helped me figure out my idle issue two weeks ago. I didn't learn to drive stick in this bus, but in a different bus last month. This one drives a lot smoother, but has trouble shifting in to second sometimes.
Robbie's notes: the noise is mechanical, and though "the OP" used incorrect terminology, the shifter notes are welcome.
| asiab3 wrote: |
1600 dual port
10w40 oil, three quarts |
Dissecting that info tells us we have a Type 1, likely 68-71. |
Install drain plug before refilling engine with oil.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 6:59 pm Post subject: Re: The Air-Schooled Games - 3 - newbies only! |
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Is Xevin a noob?
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| Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 7:16 pm Post subject: Re: The Air-Schooled Games - 3 - newbies only! |
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The mesh filter at the bottom of the engine with the six bolts.
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Mesh filter with six bolts?
Buy a Bentley and then tell us where the filter is.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 7:17 pm Post subject: Re: The Air-Schooled Games - 3 - newbies only! |
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Mesh filter with six bolts?
Buy a Bentley and then tell us where the filter is. |
Pardon me- Bentley calls it the "oil strainer" and there are six "nuts!"
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| Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 7:38 pm Post subject: Re: The Air-Schooled Games - 3 - newbies only! |
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Check oil level. How high does the oil cover the dipstick?
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airschooled
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| Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 7:40 pm Post subject: Re: The Air-Schooled Games - 3 - newbies only! |
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| Check oil level. How high does the oil cover the dipstick? |
The oil is about a centimeter over the full line when I check it after filling the gas tank.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:00 pm Post subject: Re: The Air-Schooled Games - 3 - newbies only! |
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| Check oil level. How high does the oil cover the dipstick? |
The oil is about a centimeter over the full line when I check it after filling the gas tank. |
That makes sense because 3 qt is about half a qt too much. I don’t know, however, whether being overfilled can cause a mechanical noise like you described. Since the level is wrong, you might try draining the level down to the correct amount to see if that helps.
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