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vintage fiberglass
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 Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 12:09 pm Post subject: How do you identify 16" split beetle wheels? |
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I need some help from the experts. I know that there are some 16" wheels out there that look like split beetle wheels but are really from an Opel or other German car. I know if you see the VW stamp, it is VW. However sometimes you see the brand names, and the date stamp like in these pics? But are these still split beetle wheels? help!
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 1:25 pm Post subject: Re: How do you identify 16" split beetle wheels? |
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| ...the Opel ones I’ve seen all had “OPEL” on it, you could also try to fit a VW wheel cap on them...wont fit |
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ZENVWDRIVER
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 6:41 pm Post subject: Re: How do you identify 16" split beetle wheels? |
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| Porsche904 wrote: |
| ...the Opel ones I’ve seen all had “OPEL” on it, you could also try to fit a VW wheel cap on them...wont fit |
... i'm no expert, but I once was looking at this 1951 Opel Olympia in Tulsa - it had two 16s and 2, 15 inch wheels. It also had ribbed Semaphores - the wheels and semaphores looked exactly like VW...
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vintage fiberglass
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| Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 5:33 am Post subject: Re: How do you identify 16" split beetle wheels? |
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That is why I asked the questions. I had two 16" wheels once that I was told were Opel and after inspection would the Opel stamping on them. Dang! I was taken but maybe by accident but they doid look exactly the same to me??
Ok, I was pretty convinced these were the real deal. Thanks for the info.
So buses were wider? and Porsche were wider right? what about the older KDF cars?? same size?? |
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Lars B
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| Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 7:23 am Post subject: Re: How do you identify 16" split beetle wheels? |
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Hubcaps will not fit Opel 16"
Opel Wheels
I swapped the center on a pair of Opel Wheels.
"New" 16" wheel on the left
They are Kronprinz Wheels for Opel 07-49
3,25" Wide I will add another inch or two on the outside, think you call it banding in UK.
I have also found unmarked wide five wheels, with "opel" hubcap dia.
But i only pay 5-10£ for them, if im not 100% shure they are vw |
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Zwitterkafer
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| Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 10:34 am Post subject: Re: How do you identify 16" split beetle wheels? |
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Related: Does anyone know when the "VW" stamp was first added to wheels?
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ZENVWDRIVER
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| Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 6:53 pm Post subject: Re: How do you identify 16" split beetle wheels? |
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| vintage fiberglass wrote: |
That is why I asked the questions. I had two 16" wheels once that I was told were Opel and after inspection would the Opel stamping on them. Dang! I was taken but maybe by accident but they doid look exactly the same to me??
Ok, I was pretty convinced these were the real deal. Thanks for the info.
So buses were wider? and Porsche were wider right? what about the older KDF cars?? same size?? |
i once bought a 6/52 bug that came with 5, 1954 Porsche wheels... the car cost me $2K in 1995... the Porsche wheels were slotted and were 3.25 inches wide. It also came with 4 bug 16s, which I put on the car.
Sold those Porsche 16s in 2010 for $2750... not stock, but a much more interesting wheel.
Once painted, how would anyone know the Opel wheels were not VW, other than you? They look exactly the same.
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1954 Porsche, pre A, with VW 36 horse- SOLD
1/54, black 11C Beetle - TRADED
2/55 Iceland green Beetle, on a 1965 pan
3/55 113 Beetle, stratos silver
1955 Messerschmitt KR175 - SOLD, sadly
1960 single cab
1962 SO33, with SO 42 interior
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Lars B
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| Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 4:28 am Post subject: Re: How do you identify 16" split beetle wheels? |
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| ZENVWDRIVER wrote: |
| vintage fiberglass wrote: |
That is why I asked the questions. I had two 16" wheels once that I was told were Opel and after inspection would the Opel stamping on them. Dang! I was taken but maybe by accident but they doid look exactly the same to me??
Ok, I was pretty convinced these were the real deal. Thanks for the info.
So buses were wider? and Porsche were wider right? what about the older KDF cars?? same size?? |
i once bought a 6/52 bug that came with 5, 1954 Porsche wheels... the car cost me $2K in 1995... the Porsche wheels were slotted and were 3.25 inches wide. It also came with 4 bug 16s, which I put on the car.
Sold those Porsche 16s in 2010 for $2750... not stock, but a much more interesting wheel.
Once painted, how would anyone know the Opel wheels were not VW, other than you? They look exactly the same. |
Except you cant use VW Hubcaps. |
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| Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 8:42 am Post subject: Re: How do you identify 16" split beetle wheels? |
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| Lars B wrote: |
| ZENVWDRIVER wrote: |
| vintage fiberglass wrote: |
That is why I asked the questions. I had two 16" wheels once that I was told were Opel and after inspection would the Opel stamping on them. Dang! I was taken but maybe by accident but they doid look exactly the same to me??
Ok, I was pretty convinced these were the real deal. Thanks for the info.
So buses were wider? and Porsche were wider right? what about the older KDF cars?? same size?? |
i once bought a 6/52 bug that came with 5, 1954 Porsche wheels... the car cost me $2K in 1995... the Porsche wheels were slotted and were 3.25 inches wide. It also came with 4 bug 16s, which I put on the car.
Sold those Porsche 16s in 2010 for $2750... not stock, but a much more interesting wheel.
Once painted, how would anyone know the Opel wheels were not VW, other than you? They look exactly the same. |
Except you cant use VW Hubcaps. |
... I never tried to put any hub caps on the Opel wheels, but the ones on the Olympia I saw looked exactly like VW wheels, clips and all - couldda' actually been VW wheels, for all I know - I looked no further and just formed an opinion, that they were the same.
Weird thing was this '51 Opel had 2, 15s and 2, 16s and originally that year stock Olympia had fifteens. So, probably had VW wheels on it... is why they appeared to be the same to me - that's funny... guess I was wrong - oh well.
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5/50, pastel green 11G - SOLD
8/50, gray 11A Beetle
6/52, pastel green 11C - SOLD
11/4/52, black Zwitter - SOLD to my little bro.
1954 Porsche, pre A, with VW 36 horse- SOLD
1/54, black 11C Beetle - TRADED
2/55 Iceland green Beetle, on a 1965 pan
3/55 113 Beetle, stratos silver
1955 Messerschmitt KR175 - SOLD, sadly
1960 single cab
1962 SO33, with SO 42 interior
9/63 Pacific blue, Ghia
'87 Toyota MR2
'02 WestFORDia E-150, GAVE TO OUR SON
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Lars B
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| Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:10 am Post subject: Re: How do you identify 16" split beetle wheels? |
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| ZENVWDRIVER wrote: |
| Lars B wrote: |
| ZENVWDRIVER wrote: |
| vintage fiberglass wrote: |
That is why I asked the questions. I had two 16" wheels once that I was told were Opel and after inspection would the Opel stamping on them. Dang! I was taken but maybe by accident but they doid look exactly the same to me??
Ok, I was pretty convinced these were the real deal. Thanks for the info.
So buses were wider? and Porsche were wider right? what about the older KDF cars?? same size?? |
i once bought a 6/52 bug that came with 5, 1954 Porsche wheels... the car cost me $2K in 1995... the Porsche wheels were slotted and were 3.25 inches wide. It also came with 4 bug 16s, which I put on the car.
Sold those Porsche 16s in 2010 for $2750... not stock, but a much more interesting wheel.
Once painted, how would anyone know the Opel wheels were not VW, other than you? They look exactly the same. |
Except you cant use VW Hubcaps. |
... I never tried to put any hub caps on the Opel wheels, but the ones on the Olympia I saw looked exactly like VW wheels, clips and all - couldda' actually been VW wheels, for all I know - I looked no further and just formed an opinion, that they were the same.
Weird thing was this '51 Opel had 2, 15s and 2, 16s and originally that year stock Olympia had fifteens. So, probably had VW wheels on it... is why they appeared to be the same to me - that's funny... guess I was wrong - oh well. |
Your not the first and probably not the last one.
been there done that.
This is a VW hub cap on an Opel 16"
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ZENVWDRIVER
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| Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 12:16 pm Post subject: Re: How do you identify 16" split beetle wheels? |
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interesting - thanks for the picture - is worth a thousand words.
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8/50, gray 11A Beetle
6/52, pastel green 11C - SOLD
11/4/52, black Zwitter - SOLD to my little bro.
1954 Porsche, pre A, with VW 36 horse- SOLD
1/54, black 11C Beetle - TRADED
2/55 Iceland green Beetle, on a 1965 pan
3/55 113 Beetle, stratos silver
1955 Messerschmitt KR175 - SOLD, sadly
1960 single cab
1962 SO33, with SO 42 interior
9/63 Pacific blue, Ghia
'87 Toyota MR2
'02 WestFORDia E-150, GAVE TO OUR SON
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| Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:11 pm Post subject: Re: How do you identify 16" split beetle wheels? |
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| Once painted, how would anyone know the Opel wheels were not VW, other than you? They look exactly the same. |
They look the same but when you look at the holes for wheel bolts, you notice that they are different. The same for Tempo Matador wheels.
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| Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2018 1:56 am Post subject: Re: How do you identify 16" split beetle wheels? |
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| In addition, in the pic above it looks like the hubcap does not fit properly? |
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| Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2018 11:26 am Post subject: Re: How do you identify 16" split beetle wheels? |
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| pastellgreen wrote: |
| In addition, in the pic above it looks like the hubcap does not fit properly? |
right, center circle is slightly smaller, thats why....and once again, the Opel rims are marked with an Opel sign |
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