Author |
Message |
Zundfolge1432 Samba Member
Joined: June 13, 2004 Posts: 12452
|
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 2:49 pm Post subject: Install a clutch how to |
|
|
How much work is it to install a new clutch? It’s easier than you think.
Here’s basic setup, input shaft, the disc and the pressure plate itself, yes you’ll need a few basic hand tools as well.
Clutch goes in this way. At this point I’d insert the line up shaft, you’ll feel it catch the splines on the disc then bottom out in the gland nut.
Now the pressure plate is on and all six bolts and washers are installed finger tight.
I like using this speed handle with a 13mm socket and using a crisscross pattern pull them down evenly.
Torque to 18 ft lbs.
Now just to check take the line up tool out and reinsert checking that it engages splines and plugs into the gland nut. Good now go have dinner or something. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Zundfolge1432 Samba Member
Joined: June 13, 2004 Posts: 12452
|
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 2:51 pm Post subject: Re: Install a clutch how to |
|
|
Not shown but I did use a flywheel lock otherwise engine will turn as you try to tighten bolts, whooooops. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Starbucket Samba Member
Joined: April 30, 2007 Posts: 4006 Location: WA
|
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 2:53 pm Post subject: Re: Install a clutch how to |
|
|
Hummm...aren't you going to grease the pilot bearing 1st? |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Zundfolge1432 Samba Member
Joined: June 13, 2004 Posts: 12452
|
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 3:11 pm Post subject: Re: Install a clutch how to |
|
|
Would it be better to do it now and let it attract dirt or just before it gets installed into the car? Either way and it probably doesn’t matter but remembering is a good thing because I’ve heard them squeal because of no lube. Wheel bearing grease should work yes. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Tim Donahoe Samba Member
Joined: December 08, 2012 Posts: 11739 Location: Redding, CA
|
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 3:43 pm Post subject: Re: Install a clutch how to |
|
|
Another thing. I’ve found that the edges of the pressure plate will not line up perfectly when tightening. The edge will slip down just a tad at the bottom. I hit it (the pressure plate) from the bottom a few whacks to center it.
A novice might not notice this and have problems later.
I also, first, clean the crap out of the inner surface of the flywheel, using brake cleaning fluid in a spray can.
Tim _________________ Let's do the Time Warp again!
Richard O'Brien |
|
Back to top |
|
|
iowegian Samba Curmudgeon
Joined: February 16, 2005 Posts: 9826 Location: Somewhere between Dubuque and Keokuk
|
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 6:35 pm Post subject: Re: Install a clutch how to |
|
|
A lot of good that fancy new clutch is gonna do ya, yer motor ain't gonna run fer crap with no pistons in it. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76760 Location: Sneaking up behind you
|
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 6:49 pm Post subject: Re: Install a clutch how to |
|
|
Also use press plate specific bolts which are harder than the normal M8. And don't forget the spring washers. _________________ Glenn
74 Beetle Specs | 74 Beetle Restoration | 2180cc Engine
"You may not get what you pay for, but you always pay for what you get"
Member #1009
#BlueSquare |
|
Back to top |
|
|
wcfvw69 Samba Purist
Joined: June 10, 2004 Posts: 13382 Location: Arizona
|
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 7:38 pm Post subject: Re: Install a clutch how to |
|
|
I prefer the spring loaded clutch discs. So much smoother when engaging the clutch.
It might be worth mentioning to mark the pressure plate and flywheel together before removing the pressure plate. If you're reusing the pressure plate and only replacing the clutch disc, it's good practice. Lots of builders balance the pressure plate and flywheel together. _________________ Contact me at [email protected]
Follow me on instagram @sparxwerksllc
Decades of VW and VW parts restoration experience.
The Samba member since 2004.
**Now rebuilding throttle bodies for VW's and Porsche's**
**Restored German Bosch distributors for sale or I can restore yours**
**Restored German Pierburg fuel pumps for sale or I can restore yours**
**Restored Porsche fuel pumps or I can restore yours**
**Restored Porsche distributors or I can restore yours** |
|
Back to top |
|
|
VW_Jimbo Samba Member
Joined: May 22, 2016 Posts: 9879 Location: Huntington Beach, CA
|
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:53 pm Post subject: Re: Install a clutch how to |
|
|
Zund, excellent write up. This is something that gets written about every other day.
1.) Be sure to clean the contact surfaces with brake cleaner and a rag, before installing the clutch parts. _________________ Jimbo
There is never enough time to do it right the first time, but all the time necessary the second time!
TDCTDI wrote: |
Basically, a whole bunch of fuckery to achieve a look. |
67rustavenger wrote: |
GFY's Xevin and VW_Jimbo! |
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
iowegian Samba Curmudgeon
Joined: February 16, 2005 Posts: 9826 Location: Somewhere between Dubuque and Keokuk
|
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 5:25 am Post subject: Re: Install a clutch how to |
|
|
VW_Jimbo wrote: |
Zund, excellent write up. This is something that gets written about every other day.
|
Indeed.
It would take 6,000 words to describe what Jim's 6 photos did. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76760 Location: Sneaking up behind you
|
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 6:36 am Post subject: Re: Install a clutch how to |
|
|
iowegian wrote: |
VW_Jimbo wrote: |
Zund, excellent write up. This is something that gets written about every other day.
|
Indeed.
It would take 6,000 words to describe what Jim's 6 photos did. |
Added to the FAQS / Sticky in the engine forum.
Thanks Jim. _________________ Glenn
74 Beetle Specs | 74 Beetle Restoration | 2180cc Engine
"You may not get what you pay for, but you always pay for what you get"
Member #1009
#BlueSquare |
|
Back to top |
|
|
sjbartnik Samba Member
Joined: September 01, 2011 Posts: 5986 Location: Brooklyn
|
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 7:47 am Post subject: Re: Install a clutch how to |
|
|
And of course for those of you that don’t have spare transmission input shafts laying around, pretty much every vendor sells a clutch alignment tool for a couple measly bucks. _________________ 1965 Volkswagen 1500 Variant S
2000 Kawasaki W650 |
|
Back to top |
|
|
gt1953 Samba Member
Joined: May 08, 2002 Posts: 13842 Location: White Mountains Arizona
|
Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 7:17 am Post subject: Re: Install a clutch how to |
|
|
Glad you are using a Rigid disc. Count the number of rivets that transfer torque. Now on the spring style disc count the count the number rivets transferring power. Agreed the spring style is smoother but the rigid is stronger. Having a input shaft to align things is the best if you have one. _________________ Volkswagen: We tune what we drive.
Numbers Matching VW's are getting harder to find. Source out the most Stock vehicle and keep that way. You will be glad you did.
72 type 1
72 Squareback
({59 Euro bug, 62, 63, 67, 68, 69, 73 type ones 68 & 69 type two, 68 Ghia all sold}) |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Lingwendil Samba Member
Joined: February 25, 2009 Posts: 3987 Location: Antioch, California, a block from the hood
|
Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:06 am Post subject: Re: Install a clutch how to |
|
|
wcfvw69 wrote: |
I prefer the spring loaded clutch discs. So much smoother when engaging the clutch.
|
gt1953 wrote: |
Glad you are using a Rigid disc. Count the number of rivets that transfer torque. Now on the spring style disc count the count the number rivets transferring power. Agreed the spring style is smoother but the rigid is stronger. Having a input shaft to align things is the best if you have one. |
To be perfectly honest, I can't remember the last time i even installed a sprung disc. I actually prefer the feel of a solid, and they seem to hold up better over time.
Also, speaking of solid discs, I really liked the ACE copperhead/KEP stage 1 Plate combo on my 1835 _________________ 73 super beetle thread http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=649622 Back on the Road!
Modify your Kadrons for SVDA http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=8115884#8115884
Cast iron VJU4BR8 SVDA reference thread- https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...mp;start=0
Need replacement filters for original Kadron aircleaners? WIX #42087 is a perfect fit, as is Napa Gold #2087! |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76760 Location: Sneaking up behind you
|
Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:14 am Post subject: Re: Install a clutch how to |
|
|
Agreed... sprung disc are for people that can't shift.
_________________ Glenn
74 Beetle Specs | 74 Beetle Restoration | 2180cc Engine
"You may not get what you pay for, but you always pay for what you get"
Member #1009
#BlueSquare |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Cusser Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 31266 Location: Hot Arizona
|
Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 11:39 am Post subject: Re: Install a clutch how to |
|
|
Glenn wrote: |
Agreed... sprung disc are for people that can't shift. |
I use spring discs in my 2 VWs, one has 1835cc engine. I have 5 manual transmission vehicles, so I think I can shift OK. _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
|
Back to top |
|
|
bluebus86 Banned
Joined: September 02, 2010 Posts: 11075
|
Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 11:51 am Post subject: Re: Install a clutch how to |
|
|
while clutch is serviced, it is good time to check flywheel endplay.
And yes, degrease all the metal contact surfaces on pressure plate and flywheel!
Lockwahsers are what I use under the clutch bolts.
Also good time to check throw out bearing, and check for oil leaks on both tranny and motor. Also good to lube starter shaft bushing, and a tad of grease on gear surfaces and clutch arm shaft.. also make sure boot on end of clutch cable bowden tube is intact to keep contamination out.
Bug On, Shifty Smoothly! _________________ Help Prevent VW Engine Fires, see this link.....Engine safety wire information
Stop introducing dirt into your oil when adjusting valves ... https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=683022 |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Tim Donahoe Samba Member
Joined: December 08, 2012 Posts: 11739 Location: Redding, CA
|
Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 11:54 am Post subject: Re: Install a clutch how to |
|
|
Or ... we could just go back to crashboxes and double clutching.
Tim _________________ Let's do the Time Warp again!
Richard O'Brien |
|
Back to top |
|
|
|